My Order For Two 60mm Bbtbs, What A Mess!
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Yes sir, I missed that part. No problem. He can still send it here if he wants as I have stuff to send to you and it can all go at once.
THe problems listed aren't really defects brother, it's just used. I'd give them the benefit of the doubt, but with it being dirty, the serial #'s not matching, and the obvious marks around the mounting holes from the nuts and washers, I'm leaning to the fact that they just packed up a used one on accident.
Let me know folks, however it goes.
THe problems listed aren't really defects brother, it's just used. I'd give them the benefit of the doubt, but with it being dirty, the serial #'s not matching, and the obvious marks around the mounting holes from the nuts and washers, I'm leaning to the fact that they just packed up a used one on accident.
Let me know folks, however it goes.
Yeah, I'd rather ship it to REDZMAN as well, and he can ship it to you guys. This way It'll only cost me $15.00 to ship.
It'll go out first thing in the morning to REDZMAN.
When should I expect my $315.00 refund?
Once I have the refund, everything will be fixed. Thanks again.
It'll go out first thing in the morning to REDZMAN.
QUOTE (KDMguy @ Apr 12 2007, 10:48 PM)
Now our action we are going to take is to refund you $300 for one BBTB and send you $$ for shipping the item back to KOREA.
When should I expect my $315.00 refund?
QUOTE (KDMguy @ Apr 12 2007, 10:48 PM)
Hope this solves all the problems.
Once I have the refund, everything will be fixed. Thanks again.
No you are missing the point redz, my man
You obviously didn't read my reply above about the serial number and it's not being used lol
oh Dang read my reply please
Again I don't care how much it will cost extra to ship to Korea but that BBTB must come back here
If you don't mind Daniel please just send a BBTB direct back to our office..
Our address is stated on the bottom of our store kdmstuff.com
Please show of the receipt of shipping you had to pay, then we will send you the money by via paypal for you.
Thanks
You obviously didn't read my reply above about the serial number and it's not being used lol
oh Dang read my reply please
Again I don't care how much it will cost extra to ship to Korea but that BBTB must come back here
If you don't mind Daniel please just send a BBTB direct back to our office..
Our address is stated on the bottom of our store kdmstuff.com
Please show of the receipt of shipping you had to pay, then we will send you the money by via paypal for you.
Thanks
I am shipping it to REDZMAN tomorrow via UPS. He will get it probably on Thursday. REDZMAN will then immediately ship it to you guys in Korea. I'll post the UPS tracking number tomorrow when I ship it. This way REDZ cam confirm that it is indeed what I say it is "used" and "65-67mm"
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QUOTE (KDMguy @ Apr 13 2007, 08:11 PM)
No you are missing the point redz, my man
You obviously didn't read my reply above about the serial number and it's not being used lol
oh Dang read my reply please
Again I don't care how much it will cost extra to ship to Korea but that BBTB must come back here
If you don't mind Daniel please just send a BBTB direct back to our office..
Our address is stated on the bottom of our store kdmstuff.com
Please show of the receipt of shipping you had to pay, then we will send you the money by via paypal for you.
Thanks
You obviously didn't read my reply above about the serial number and it's not being used lol
oh Dang read my reply please
Again I don't care how much it will cost extra to ship to Korea but that BBTB must come back here
If you don't mind Daniel please just send a BBTB direct back to our office..
Our address is stated on the bottom of our store kdmstuff.com
Please show of the receipt of shipping you had to pay, then we will send you the money by via paypal for you.
Thanks
Jay, I did read it man, I got everything you said brother. SYSTEM is saying it's not used, but if you look at the pictures, it obviously IS used, everyone here has seen them and agreed to it. You said in your post also, that their boxes ALWAYS match the serial numbers on the throttle bodies, well his did not. YES< the BBTB is coming back to you, I was going to send it to you with other stuff that I need to send to you, so I will pay the shipping and not the customer. I sent you a very detailed email about this with both of your pictures. Tomorrow I'll send another one after I have time to use paint to show how you know it's used.
Daniel, please just send it directly back, I don't want to cause any more problems than there are here, something is not coming across in the translation for some reason.
Redz maybe you read but you did not understand some parts
I know everything is settled but you missed the whole point about the pictures above.
System upgrade's BBTB boxes do have same exact serial numbers for each box and BBTBs do have different from the box but same serial numbers in every BBTB as you can see in the picture
So it's more like a design other than having different serial number for each BBTB and box so serial number should not match for all the BBTBs and boxes
Second, I repeatly said that was not USED but does look used while having it modified to fit RD tiburons. I admit it does look used in the pictures so that is why I want to give a refund to Daniel.
we do not want to pay 2times for shipping to Redz and Redz to us, so Daniel please direct ship to us
We will look at the BBTBs for you and show it to system upgrade and confirm that was the same condition as they have give the product.
And Daniel, could you please take the picture of the shipping box of first BBTB's?
We have something to confirm.
I know everything is settled but you missed the whole point about the pictures above.
System upgrade's BBTB boxes do have same exact serial numbers for each box and BBTBs do have different from the box but same serial numbers in every BBTB as you can see in the picture
So it's more like a design other than having different serial number for each BBTB and box so serial number should not match for all the BBTBs and boxes
Second, I repeatly said that was not USED but does look used while having it modified to fit RD tiburons. I admit it does look used in the pictures so that is why I want to give a refund to Daniel.
we do not want to pay 2times for shipping to Redz and Redz to us, so Daniel please direct ship to us
We will look at the BBTBs for you and show it to system upgrade and confirm that was the same condition as they have give the product.
And Daniel, could you please take the picture of the shipping box of first BBTB's?
We have something to confirm.
QUOTE (REDZMAN @ Apr 14 2007, 02:37 AM)
Daniel, please just send it directly back, I don't want to cause any more problems than there are here, something is not coming across in the translation for some reason.
Believe me, I know this very well. That is why I started this thread.
KDMguy, I will take pictures of my other BBTB and the box I recieved from you. The first System Upgrade BBTB was new and did not have any defects in it anywhere might I add, which is how I know the second one was used and not just from a drill, or mounting it up once. Some of the spots where they previous owner used permanent marker to cover a scratch/mark are hard to see in my pics but there are a lot of them on this BBTB. My other one had zero marks on it anywhere.
I will send it directly back to SFR today via UPS, I was just kind of wanting someone else to take a third opinion of it.
The serial numbers on both boxes are the same. The box with the green duct tape is the box that the most recent 65mm BBTB came in.

The serial numbers on both BBTBs are the same. This is the first 60mm BBTB you sent me that is installed on my silver 2000 Tiburon.

This BBTB is a 65mm piece. I bought a new digital cailper this morning to make sure that I gave a fair & accurate measurement.
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I got you now Jay. No problem. Daniel, please ship it direct back to him, I wasn't going to charge anyone for shipping, just have it come out of my pocket, it's not THAT much.
I sent the throttle body back to SeoulfulRacing as per their (and Redzman's) request and against my better judgment. UPS wanted $105.00 with an insured tracking number and the United States Postal Service wanted $45.00 for standard 20-30 day delivery or $51.08 for priority 4-7 day delivery. SeoulfulRacing said they would credit me back for the shipping so I decided to take it easy on their budget and send it United States Postal Service priority mail for $51.08, knowing realistically that it could still take 20-30 days for delivery. I wasn’t in dire need of the cash so it was a fair trade off I thought at the time. I guess it would prove to be the biggest mistake I made in this entire transaction. Other then the receipt and the postal customs/export paperwork I filled out when I shipped the throttle body back through my UPS account I have no way to track what happened to it. Surely it would have turned up by now as I shipped it back on 4-27-07. Now not only am I out the original $300.00 I paid for the incorrect throttle body I received, I wasted another $51.08 trying to correct their mistake.
It probably will not be the last time I lose money buying parts online, however it will be the last time I deal with SFR.
It probably will not be the last time I lose money buying parts online, however it will be the last time I deal with SFR.



