Looking For Details On Mad_johns Car
ij ust dont see how that dyno was for the same setup?
i mean they use two totally differant turbos two totally differant manifolds, the car that DID put down 600 WHP used a water-air intercooler and had no exhaust and was probably running some pretty agressive cames based on what i heard with the pross car
now it may be the same MOTOR in each car but that doesnt mean i can post a dyno of some 800 WHP car because my motor is also using pauter rods and wiseco pistons
john posted that dyno to imply that it was his, saying u took it with your cellphone kinda means that u are saying its yours. after he posted it alot of people quoted it and started going wowzers over the #'s and he never corrected it....
i dont really care, the purpose ot this thread was not to oust him and get every1 pissed @ him, i legitimatly wanted to know what kind of power he is actually putting down
i mean they use two totally differant turbos two totally differant manifolds, the car that DID put down 600 WHP used a water-air intercooler and had no exhaust and was probably running some pretty agressive cames based on what i heard with the pross car
now it may be the same MOTOR in each car but that doesnt mean i can post a dyno of some 800 WHP car because my motor is also using pauter rods and wiseco pistons
john posted that dyno to imply that it was his, saying u took it with your cellphone kinda means that u are saying its yours. after he posted it alot of people quoted it and started going wowzers over the #'s and he never corrected it....
i dont really care, the purpose ot this thread was not to oust him and get every1 pissed @ him, i legitimatly wanted to know what kind of power he is actually putting down
oh, and im not pissed about the voting... if i had lost yea id be pissed if this came out after, but since i tied i dont care, i also wish for the voting more pictures of the car were used and details of each, since it was pretty important
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QUOTE (kcvortex @ Jan 18 2006, 12:30 AM)
"look at the pic see for your self at 2.1 bar sorry for the shitty quality i took it with my cellphone camara at spin wheel..its a shop up north
the video is next.
this is at the veryedge of the envelope, the only thing holding me back is the turbo and the driveshafts....shit"
thats the direct quote from the image he posted.... nowhere in there does it say it's a dyno of his car.... just the set up that he has and what it's capable of.
the video is next.
this is at the veryedge of the envelope, the only thing holding me back is the turbo and the driveshafts....shit"
thats the direct quote from the image he posted.... nowhere in there does it say it's a dyno of his car.... just the set up that he has and what it's capable of.
I disagree with whoever said that this statement implies that the dyno is of his car... I admit, I too thought that it was, but I think thats because we either A. didnt read carefully, or B. just plain misunderstood. I dont think he was implying... hear me out:
Had MadJohn put a couple more words in there I think it would have been much more clear, for example:
"this is at the veryedge of the envelope, the only thing holding me back FROM THIS is the turbo and the driveshafts....shit"
had those words been there I would have immediately understood that he was saying he would have to upgrade his turbo and driveshafts to put down those numbers, instead of assuming that the dyno was his. but we have to remember, madjohns english isnt always perfect. He didnt really say anything wrong, we just jumped all over what we would have liked it to be and made assumptions. our fault, not his. theres my 2cents
EDIT- I do however agree that the misunderstanding probably should have been corrected... but maybe he thought we were just liking the potential of his car? i dunno...
RedZ, by saying that hp was primarily what I had based my vote upon I meant that it was obvious to me that to achieve such awesome numbers, a lot of hard work & dedication had gone into the project. For someone to love their car & the scene so much that they would put all their blood, sweat, time & money into it means that they deserve my humble vote in such a contest. I wouldn't say that there is anything particularly special about the appearance of MJ's car but it sure as hell isn't ugly either.
That said, Viper's car is awesome too... But I only had one vote to give.
TibMinn, you can disagree with me all you want but my take on the whole of MJ's thread (not just from what had been quoted in this thread) is that hp claims were made, a dyno sheet was posted, praise was showered upon MJ & MJ seemed more than happy to suck it all up. I'm not saying he's a bad guy or that he asked for all the arse kissing he received in that thread but it would've been very easy for him to say: "Guys, this isn't a dyno of my car but it's from another Tib with a very similar setup to what I currently have".
That said, Viper's car is awesome too... But I only had one vote to give.
TibMinn, you can disagree with me all you want but my take on the whole of MJ's thread (not just from what had been quoted in this thread) is that hp claims were made, a dyno sheet was posted, praise was showered upon MJ & MJ seemed more than happy to suck it all up. I'm not saying he's a bad guy or that he asked for all the arse kissing he received in that thread but it would've been very easy for him to say: "Guys, this isn't a dyno of my car but it's from another Tib with a very similar setup to what I currently have".
QUOTE (REDZMAN @ Jan 18 2006, 12:04 PM)
Well, that' sorta dumb to vote for someone because of HP #'s. I vote for the overall car, that's why I was mad there was only an engine picture of his car.
QUOTE (Viper966 @ Jan 18 2006, 01:21 PM)
oh, and im not pissed about the voting... if i had lost yea id be pissed if this came out after, but since i tied i dont care, i also wish for the voting more pictures of the car were used and details of each, since it was pretty important
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i'm gonna be doin the COTM the way i would have liked it to have been. ever since the auto merge, cyber had to do it a different way. it will be better here on out
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QUOTE (JonGTR @ Jan 17 2006, 11:07 PM)
Look at his engine bay in this pic: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...n/DSC02912.jpg
Stock paint, stock wheel wells. Nothing about the FRAME is modified.
Now look at the Spin Wheel: http://www.spinwheel.co.kr/bbs/data/upload/Dscn3135.jpg
Different engine bay paint, welded wheel wells for the bigger tires. Also the front of the frame where the hood latches is CUT OUT.
Stock paint, stock wheel wells. Nothing about the FRAME is modified.
Now look at the Spin Wheel: http://www.spinwheel.co.kr/bbs/data/upload/Dscn3135.jpg
Different engine bay paint, welded wheel wells for the bigger tires. Also the front of the frame where the hood latches is CUT OUT.
True true, that is standard for a drag spec "only" here.. now on my frame i have had the seams respotweled ever 1cm the the 2in appart from the factory. there is no need to cut up the tibby the frount bumper is just that a bumper there is nothing behind it
QUOTE (Viper966 @ Jan 18 2006, 02:05 AM)
im not saying that the car he posted isnt his... cuz thats almost impossible for me to prove, and it may be... it looks as it was def built perhaps by spinwheel cuz they used the same welding pie cuts... although i really doubt that piping is alum... not many people make FMIC piping out of alum... it could be, but not with pie cuts... cuz welding alum is a b**** and i wouldnt want to pie cut it
what i am saying is that that was not his dyno sheet
what i am saying is that that was not his dyno sheet
I will make a specical video for you big dog, as for the piping the koreas love it and the guys that build it make nothing but custom setups for all rides
QUOTE (Jaws021 @ Jan 19 2006, 02:46 AM)
Hate to break it to you man... but the top two guys are (were) also the top two HP guys..
I guarantee that a re-vote will yield different results now..
I guarantee that a re-vote will yield different results now..
I say do it
QUOTE (Gary @ Jan 19 2006, 02:41 PM)
Viper,
post up your 389WHP dyno graph......
post up your 389WHP dyno graph......
now that is cool ##'s what if i was to tell you you can hit that on stock rods and pistions
i sold my pistiond and rods need money bad so i put in 1.8l rods and pistions and still i am hitting 450hp so when i go to pohang " where the dyno is and is 1 hour away from the hyundais's main plant" i will get you a video so all of your concerns are put to rest
FYI my turbo is a IHI Rhx6b = to a td07 I think.. and 3 in down pipe into 4in pipe back
if we need pic or me in a thong taking the pics for proof not a problem G's
Let the witch hunt began


