ok, I am talking here about what we use for racing ... but we did do a lot of testing with MANY diff replacement and the PG also. I didnt mention that... but the guys from SCC do know that...since they got the info from us. Sorry if I wasn`t clear enough.

 

dude, this forum is about people helping people. there are a lot of good people on this board with good knowledge. we're all just trying to help out and prevent someone from making a mistake. if it were me, no matter how many positive feedbacks there were about a product, with this much negative feedback/experience, i would just eliminate it from my choices, ya know?

 

Well, that's you smile.gif Other people might have different mean of constructing their opinions.

I personally base my opinions on what I see and try, not what I read on the 'net. Reading can give you a good approximation of what's going on, as it's the case with the PG on the tib, but it will never replace real experience. Although I value the opinions of you all, believe me; I'm NOT saying the PG is not a POS, I'm just saying that I want to confirm personally that it is or isn't one.

Instead of saying that the PG is a POS... wouldn't it be better to find WHY it is a POS, in the Tib, and not in some other cars (because that's actually a fact, guys)? What if the diff itself (or the PG) wasn't responsible for the destruction of the diff/tranny, like onpol pointed out? What if a simple "fix" could allow one to use the PG in a safely manner and get good results with it? Wouldn't it be interesting to know about it?

That's what we'll try to do.

Don't see the way I have of trying things as an attack to your knowledge; I'm just stubborn. It can be a quality in certain circumstances, but can be a big weakness, too. We'll see what it is for this specific case.

 

Exactly!

turbulence i didnt tell you not to give your advise.
I'm suggesting that you stop trying to beat it into him.

by all means, help, give advise.
but dont repeat your damn opinion 3 times in the one post.
I think the point was made in the first one.

 

PLAY NICE!!! GIVE ADVISE!!! DONT BE RICE!!!

 

justin...
Youve read enough to make your own decision

Key motorsports...
I have read your post five times... and i still cant figure out why you bothered to post in this thread. Your supposed argument against Random was pointless... you pretty much agreed with what he said.

Argawal...
I would say both the tiburon tranny and the PG are POS...
People from korea have used the tranny in the 600whp tiburons with the KAAZ lsd (according to cheuk), but we are not sure what else was done to the trannies

ill be talking to a company who has a hyundai pushing over 600 (supposedly)
So ill ask to see if they have came upon any problems with the tranny... ill also ask to see what kind of LSD they are using

 

Simple; some guys here seem to know a whole lot about our cars and what parts we have on them... but none of them can get the facts straight. What we use on our cars, and what we SAY we use are two different things. And it`s not US who are wrong in doing such things, the whole racing industry is based on actions like this.

Let me explain:

Lets say brand X-oil is the official sponsor of a team (or even serie), and this company provides the product free of charge to the team under the condition that there is publicity for the product on the car, and that nothing else is used in the pit area, where poeple can see what`s going on.

Up to here, you following?

Ok, lets also say that the mecanics do not get good results out of this particular product, and would rather use something else... what can they do?

They simply pour out the brand x-oil, and re-fill the bottles with brand z-oil... This way, the sponsor gets the visibility that he paid for, and the team uses what they want. That`s racing.

The hard facts, you will NEVER know, even if you think you are close to a team member. Big money is invested in marketing and publicity, sometimes twice as much than for the racing effort itself.

So if someone says that we used a PG, a KAAZ and a QUAIFE. As far as you`re concerned, it the truth.

 

Too long, must rest my eyes... analogy... way... off.. topic...

 

I'm sorry but that last post from Key deserved it's own thread. Here it is.

http://www.newtiburon.com/yabbse/index.php...tart=0#lastPost

 

I am not going to sink to your level, if you want to stir sh*t, play by yourself. You tried to start a flaming on SR on the "hyundai and SR get togheter" thread on Newtiburon.com. This just proves my point.

The people who have delt with us previously know what we`re all about. You seem to think you know a whole lot, but your reaction proves you know nothing about the racing industry and the aftermarket development.

This discussion is over as far as I am concerned. You can play by yourselves, since you know everything, you don`t need any new input from anyone. Specially us, since we are the ones that worked with Fidenza, Goodridge, Moton, KAAZ, QUAIFE, Phantom Grip, Hyundai motor company, Hyundai motor of America, Hyundai auto Canada, and the list goes on.... I guess you`re right... we don`t know Sh*t.

[ March 20, 2003, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: Key Performance ]