Cold Air Intake Question
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That's kinda an off topic question. They make a CryO2 system for that. It does the same thing with Carbon Dioxide. Google it. It's easy to install, but hardly worth it IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (4g64fiero @ Dec 5 2008, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When its starts raining in ABQ NM every afternoon I think you will understand why it would be inconvenient.
NM is the sunniest place in the US so no wonder its not worth it to you. Your in a DESERT lol.</div>
Actually I must say that florida is one of the sunniest places in the US, it just gets humid there and rains on and off throughout the day. I live (like i said) in South Dakota, where when it rains IT RAINS, its not a random down pour for 10 minutes out of the day, I still see it worth it to just get out and disconnect the intake to keep from destroying the engine, rather than, as REDZMAN said, to cut up my intake and hope that the bypass valve works
Bypass valve can simply cause a false sense of security, it seems that you think that by having a bypass valve that theres no risk of water getting in, thats like saying well i just got new tires so theres no reason i need a spare because they wont blow
NM is the sunniest place in the US so no wonder its not worth it to you. Your in a DESERT lol.</div>
Actually I must say that florida is one of the sunniest places in the US, it just gets humid there and rains on and off throughout the day. I live (like i said) in South Dakota, where when it rains IT RAINS, its not a random down pour for 10 minutes out of the day, I still see it worth it to just get out and disconnect the intake to keep from destroying the engine, rather than, as REDZMAN said, to cut up my intake and hope that the bypass valve works
Bypass valve can simply cause a false sense of security, it seems that you think that by having a bypass valve that theres no risk of water getting in, thats like saying well i just got new tires so theres no reason i need a spare because they wont blow
My tires are fusion ZRi's. When did I say they were bald? They dont do well in rain at all.
you said this is post#8 of the link YOU provided which is says right here...
"I know about em, I didnt want to ever drive this car in the rain. My tires slide every freakin where. Its my sunny day car."
where you said bald or not, which you didn't, i just took the point to meaning they were bald. but that is OT on this subject.
guys seriously, think about this for a moment. a bypass valve is basically muting the main intention of a CAI. its made out of foam with silicone couplers on it. it has NO diaphragm that regulates when the front end is blocked which would make the air come from the foam , not the filter. you install a CAI to catch cold air, period. you install a bypass on this you will get residual heat coming out of the engine bay that would go into the intake, basically making it a WAI.
I damn near hydrolocked my gf's car last year cause of backing into the street at work . when it rains alot near my shop the water backs up on the street. I rolled own the incline, into the water and it killed it. i knew EXACTLY what happened and didnt try to start the car. I pushed the car out of the way (yeah, it was raining like hell and i got wet, but i never started it). after letting it dry for two days it took me 200 ft. of air hose, new plugs, plus a battery charger but it started back up and still runs to this day.
you said this is post#8 of the link YOU provided which is says right here...
"I know about em, I didnt want to ever drive this car in the rain. My tires slide every freakin where. Its my sunny day car."
where you said bald or not, which you didn't, i just took the point to meaning they were bald. but that is OT on this subject.
guys seriously, think about this for a moment. a bypass valve is basically muting the main intention of a CAI. its made out of foam with silicone couplers on it. it has NO diaphragm that regulates when the front end is blocked which would make the air come from the foam , not the filter. you install a CAI to catch cold air, period. you install a bypass on this you will get residual heat coming out of the engine bay that would go into the intake, basically making it a WAI.
I damn near hydrolocked my gf's car last year cause of backing into the street at work . when it rains alot near my shop the water backs up on the street. I rolled own the incline, into the water and it killed it. i knew EXACTLY what happened and didnt try to start the car. I pushed the car out of the way (yeah, it was raining like hell and i got wet, but i never started it). after letting it dry for two days it took me 200 ft. of air hose, new plugs, plus a battery charger but it started back up and still runs to this day.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (4g64fiero @ Dec 5 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My tires are fusion ZRi's. When did I say they were bald? They dont do well in rain at all.
Anyways, I still completely disagree with you but I believe the other mod was just being smug for no reason. I asked this same question(Should I have a bypass valve on my cai?) on various other forums and gave a link to this thread. Redicule of this board ensued.
When its starts raining in ABQ NM every afternoon I think you will understand why it would be inconvenient.
NM is the sunniest place in the US so no wonder its not worth it to you. Your in a DESERT lol.</div>
Lee posted the link that you posted, where you said your tires were bald.
I could care less if you disagree with me, it doesn't make you right.
So you asked the same question on other forums, with a link to this one, and got redicule of this board??
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...idicule%5B2%5D
RIDICULE. To mock or make fun of.
Post the links of said ridicule, I could care less, fact is fact, no matter who is stupid enough to argue against it.
And yeah, I've obviously lived here my whole life. I spent 11 years in the US army, have lived in Kansas, California, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Korea, I know a bit of something about rain everyday. Maybe you should learn about who you are talking to before you spout your mouth off next time youngun.
It's not worth it to me because I'm not a moron. I pay attention to where I drive, I take care of my car, I keep my tires from going bald, I don't street race, and I know how to drive in the rain. I don't drive through puddles on the drivers side, if it's raining hard I take my SUV, if I don't have the SUV I don't drive. If it rains while I'm out and I know there is going to be a trouble area, I drive well AROUND it, like BLOCKS around it, if it happens right in front of me, I pull over and pop off the intake. I'm responsible for what I do to my car.
The ridicule of ignorant people is NOT a worry of mine or the other staff on this forum. They want to mod their car and then take away half the gains because they might get wet if it rains? Let em. I'll honk when I pass by.
If anyone has anything to say to the OP On TOPIC, feel free to do so, otherwise, this discussion is over.
Anyways, I still completely disagree with you but I believe the other mod was just being smug for no reason. I asked this same question(Should I have a bypass valve on my cai?) on various other forums and gave a link to this thread. Redicule of this board ensued.
When its starts raining in ABQ NM every afternoon I think you will understand why it would be inconvenient.
NM is the sunniest place in the US so no wonder its not worth it to you. Your in a DESERT lol.</div>
Lee posted the link that you posted, where you said your tires were bald.
I could care less if you disagree with me, it doesn't make you right.
So you asked the same question on other forums, with a link to this one, and got redicule of this board??
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...idicule%5B2%5D
RIDICULE. To mock or make fun of.
Post the links of said ridicule, I could care less, fact is fact, no matter who is stupid enough to argue against it.
And yeah, I've obviously lived here my whole life. I spent 11 years in the US army, have lived in Kansas, California, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Korea, I know a bit of something about rain everyday. Maybe you should learn about who you are talking to before you spout your mouth off next time youngun.
It's not worth it to me because I'm not a moron. I pay attention to where I drive, I take care of my car, I keep my tires from going bald, I don't street race, and I know how to drive in the rain. I don't drive through puddles on the drivers side, if it's raining hard I take my SUV, if I don't have the SUV I don't drive. If it rains while I'm out and I know there is going to be a trouble area, I drive well AROUND it, like BLOCKS around it, if it happens right in front of me, I pull over and pop off the intake. I'm responsible for what I do to my car.
The ridicule of ignorant people is NOT a worry of mine or the other staff on this forum. They want to mod their car and then take away half the gains because they might get wet if it rains? Let em. I'll honk when I pass by.
If anyone has anything to say to the OP On TOPIC, feel free to do so, otherwise, this discussion is over.
All i can say is whenever rain was so bad that you couldn't see in front of you, i pulled on the shoulder of the highway like most people did anyway.
The only time I actually had to go through a large puddle, i got enough speed, pushed the clutch and stopped the motor while I went through it smile.gif
The only time I actually had to go through a large puddle, i got enough speed, pushed the clutch and stopped the motor while I went through it smile.gif
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^^ that causes more splashing of the water right. The water will build up right in front of the tire, where the CAI is at "built up speeds" When I have to ford a 4" puddle, I try to less then idle through it, almost stalling the clutch at 2-3 mph and letting off when I feel I need to. The worst thing you can do with a CAI is go faster through a puddle. If you try to keep the puddle as calm and non-ripply as possible you run less risk of getting the water up into the CAI.
After thinking for a bit what sounds best?
1. remove CAI and make short ram, Takes up cargo space, time and get wet
2. Install breather filter. Loose horse power and sound power on a daily basis.
3. Go back to stock intake
4. Drive safely
I'd go for #2 if they had something maybe, 2" diameter that opened up at a certain mmHg vacuum.
After thinking for a bit what sounds best?
1. remove CAI and make short ram, Takes up cargo space, time and get wet
2. Install breather filter. Loose horse power and sound power on a daily basis.
3. Go back to stock intake
4. Drive safely
I'd go for #2 if they had something maybe, 2" diameter that opened up at a certain mmHg vacuum.
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Problem with stopping the motor with the key is if you turn the wheel, you lock the wheel, VERY dangerous. Probably better to just coast through the puddle with the clutch in so the RPMS are low and there isn't enough vacuum to pull water in.
DTN, or option 3. Carry a socket or screwdriver with you and pop off the intake in severe rain. It's ONE FRIGGING HOSE CLAMP!!!
DTN, or option 3. Carry a socket or screwdriver with you and pop off the intake in severe rain. It's ONE FRIGGING HOSE CLAMP!!!


