'treezy

haha, I thought that was some kind of New-Mexican auto parts store...LOL

I'm new to the Southwest and everything is different.

The Northwest's Taco Bell's and Wendy's = In N' Out and Del Taco here in the SW (I guess I've been missin' out).

And Fry's Electronic's in the NW = Fry's Grocery Store here (same sign and everything...)

and auto parts stores too, it's crazy.

Thanks, I'll check out evap and take it from there.

'treezy

Okay so I was right, it was the injectors. They were getting power fine it's just that they were clogged to shit (injectors 1 and 2 mainly).

So, w/ some help from REDZ, I found out:

One can of B12 from WallyWorld > FIVE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CODES.


Yeah, so one can of B-12+the middle of the night+one long ass road from ABQ,NM to PRESCOTT, AZ+anywhere from 85-100mph for almost the majority of one tank full of gas and B12=

cleaned fuel injectors.

Now my car startes fine when I fill up at the pump, no hesitation.
My car accelerates fine from a stop with no hesitation whatsoever, fuel flow is smoth and constant into the head.
All CEL are gone, inlcuding the running rich CEL (P1123) and the EVAp cannister CEL (P0446). Looks like I won't be relocating the EVAP cannister to the engine bay (I might just for kicks...if I can find a way to make it look good).

Thanks for all your help guys, plugs and wires were fine...just dirty injectors.

REDZMAN

Killer man. Again, B 12 saves the day!

'treezy

Just wanted to clarify B12 can sucks my ballz....cuz it didn't do sheet.

I've narrowed it down to ither fuel injectors, head gasket, 02 sensor, or some major ECU electrical sensing problem (which I highly doubt).

"newer" used injectors go in today (I'm tired of buying B12 from AutoZone)... mad.gif and hopefully it will cause my mis-fire CEL codes to go away. If not, I'll check O2 sensor (first) and if that's fine. It may be need a head gasket replaced (which will have to wait till I get rods, pistons, P&Phead...cuz I'm a laxy mofo).

btw, how do you check o2 sensor? I'll probably answer my own question w/ Webtech, but feel free to post whore and answer my question anyway.

faithofadragon

i just replace mine every 50k
they get dirty

im sure you can check the voltage witha multimeter and webtech help

'treezy

David are you talking about your 02 sensor or you fuel injectors...

faithofadragon

o2s

REDZMAN

Bro, I hope you haven't been putting that B12 in that much. Like once every other month is more than enough.

Your injectors COULD be damaged, or just shit broke.

I'd do your injectors as planned, check all your plugs again, and maybe do a compression test to see how the engine is. Change your PCV valve and everything else.

Ever clean out any of your vaccum hoses?

'treezy

nah, I used it twice (with three full tanks w/o B12 inbetween).

I quit usin it cuz it only helped temporarily. It wouldn't lag at all for the rest of that tank, but by the time I put in more gas (w/o B12...it would run shitty again). I tried it once more and gave up on B12.

I JUST got done swappin in new fuel injectors. I'm gonna go see how the car runs and see what ups. See if CEL's go away and whatnot.

...thanks for advice Jer, if this doesn't do the trick..I'm gonna spend like a week just cleaning and testing my engine. mad.gif

REDZMAN

Yeah. I'd definately do that. Check the plugs. Check and test your PCV valve. Replace it all.


Fuel filter been done? What kind of gas you usin?