Question for RED or RANDOM!!
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You can move that evap canister anywhere you want. You can also route your air filter anywhere you want.
Relocate the battery to the trunk, and route the air filter into the fenderwell where the battery was. Or route the filter like a normal CAI, and put the battery in the trunk and the evap canister where the battery was. The options are nearly endless.
If you can splice in some wire, and buy some longer vaccum hose, you are in business...
Alpine does NOT route the oil FROM the turbo back into the oil pan, they actually route in back into the block into one of the oil gallerys.
The incoming oil tap comes off the head oil rail that feels the valves, the outgoing oil tap goes back into the lower block, just above the level of the centerline of the crank. I know i've posted photos of it somewhere, if Not, I can try to take more if you need further clairifcation.
You can move that evap canister anywhere you want. You can also route your air filter anywhere you want.
Relocate the battery to the trunk, and route the air filter into the fenderwell where the battery was. Or route the filter like a normal CAI, and put the battery in the trunk and the evap canister where the battery was. The options are nearly endless.
If you can splice in some wire, and buy some longer vaccum hose, you are in business...
Alpine does NOT route the oil FROM the turbo back into the oil pan, they actually route in back into the block into one of the oil gallerys.
The incoming oil tap comes off the head oil rail that feels the valves, the outgoing oil tap goes back into the lower block, just above the level of the centerline of the crank. I know i've posted photos of it somewhere, if Not, I can try to take more if you need further clairifcation.
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Cheuk!!
I will try to get my hands a BEGI Turbo FPR if possible if not i might use the one that came with the Alpine kit,its a small unit!!
Random!!
The return line is tapped into the block but i dont want to perform this task,its to RISKY,id rather tap it in the oil pan,WHAT DO YO think!!
Also the Are you using the FPR that came with the Alpine kit or another brand!!
I will try to get my hands a BEGI Turbo FPR if possible if not i might use the one that came with the Alpine kit,its a small unit!!
Random!!
The return line is tapped into the block but i dont want to perform this task,its to RISKY,id rather tap it in the oil pan,WHAT DO YO think!!
Also the Are you using the FPR that came with the Alpine kit or another brand!!
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The alpine kit taps into holes already pre-drilled and pre threadded into the block from the factory, It as risky as turning a screw.
I use the RRFPR that apline supplied.
I use the RRFPR that apline supplied.
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Ah, my apologies, I should have asked a few more questions before I spoke. I'm thinking of a statick fuel pressure regulator (you set it at 55psi, and it's 55psi no matter at idle or at 30 pounds of boost)
CIf your kit came with a rising-rate fuel pressure regulator, by all means DO use it. Cheuk is 100% correct that it will help to eliminate tip-in detonation problems and at the same time won't try to flood your engine at idle and low RPM driving smile.gif
If you're using an RRFPR, use my original AFC settings I outlined.
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CIf your kit came with a rising-rate fuel pressure regulator, by all means DO use it. Cheuk is 100% correct that it will help to eliminate tip-in detonation problems and at the same time won't try to flood your engine at idle and low RPM driving smile.gif
If you're using an RRFPR, use my original AFC settings I outlined.
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Originally posted by Red:
Settings with 440cc injectors should basically be the following (IF you're using the stock ECU, stock fuel pressure and the stock MAF sensor with your turbo kit)
Hotwire settings:
Type 01
In 1, Out 1
Ne points:
1000
2000
3000
4000
5000
5500
6000
6500
Throttle settings:
Lo: 20%
Hi: 75%
Fuel settings:
Lo Throttle: -43% across the entire range
Hi Throttle: this MUST be tuned on a dyno, but you can start with the following:
1000: -43%
2000: -15%
3000 and above: zero
The one to watch is hi throttle. When you are tuning your turbo setup on the dyno, aim for a 12:1 air/fuel mixture (this is the "safe" side) and tune the Hi throttle map accordingly. You leave the Lo throttle settings at -43% so that you don't run rich at idle and low speeds / low load.
Depending on how much boost you're trying to run, you may still get check engine lights from MAF sensor overload at high boost. That's just something you will have to deal with...
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Settings with 440cc injectors should basically be the following (IF you're using the stock ECU, stock fuel pressure and the stock MAF sensor with your turbo kit)
Hotwire settings:
Type 01
In 1, Out 1
Ne points:
1000
2000
3000
4000
5000
5500
6000
6500
Throttle settings:
Lo: 20%
Hi: 75%
Fuel settings:
Lo Throttle: -43% across the entire range
Hi Throttle: this MUST be tuned on a dyno, but you can start with the following:
1000: -43%
2000: -15%
3000 and above: zero
The one to watch is hi throttle. When you are tuning your turbo setup on the dyno, aim for a 12:1 air/fuel mixture (this is the "safe" side) and tune the Hi throttle map accordingly. You leave the Lo throttle settings at -43% so that you don't run rich at idle and low speeds / low load.
Depending on how much boost you're trying to run, you may still get check engine lights from MAF sensor overload at high boost. That's just something you will have to deal with...
-Red-
RED!
The Alpine Kit does come with a small FPR thats included with the kit!!
Are you refering to all these EXACT settings?
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Taping into the oil pan wouldnt be a good idea for the oil retun line?
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Uniq,
You've got it right, those would be the settings I would recommend. They will be quite a bit rich, but you'd rather be safe than sorry.
The low fuel settings will be almost dead-on, but the hi fuel settings will need to definately on a dyno. Time to schedule some dyno runs! Make sure they have a wide-band o2 sensor!
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You've got it right, those would be the settings I would recommend. They will be quite a bit rich, but you'd rather be safe than sorry.
The low fuel settings will be almost dead-on, but the hi fuel settings will need to definately on a dyno. Time to schedule some dyno runs! Make sure they have a wide-band o2 sensor!
-Red-
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2 UNIQ,
Would love more info on your turbo search and how and where to go for a turbo for my car. I heard of alpine Dev. already, but that isnt the complete kit, wanted to know a little more on what exactly I need and how and where to get it.
Would love more info on your turbo search and how and where to go for a turbo for my car. I heard of alpine Dev. already, but that isnt the complete kit, wanted to know a little more on what exactly I need and how and where to get it.