http://www.stangtv.com/tech-stories/...tor-coil-packs



This here is not the only article or proof you can find! There are plenty of proofs you can find including dyno results. I cant stress enough the validity of this mod. If you want to use a better coil than mine than go ahead be my guest. Still this is a good,low cost, decent gain.



JonGTR ... you are right in one aspect. It does significantly help with a FI setup but it is DEFINITELY not just for FI. The gains are documented and IS one big reason that OEM manufacturers use the COP setup for MOST vehicles today.



Try it and dyno it if you want to. I wanna see the results.



Also, not all vehicles are created the same (meaning not all vehicles will see a gain.) The beta one does.



Give it a shot.! Maybe you will be impressed maybe not.









Peace and power to the wheels!



Edited due to me being an @$$

 

Here are some links to ignition system explanations.



http://www.jetav8r.com/Vision/Ignition/CDI.html

http://www.linnbenton.edu/auto/perform/ignition.html

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu.../ignition.html



Links to coil on Plug benefits



http://www.autotap.com/techlibrary/u...on_systems.asp

http://www.delphi.com/manufacturers/...nsys/igncoils/

http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/archiv...p/t-56032.html



Should I continue??

 

You're just fueling the flame at this point, and frankly speaking, looking kind arrogant. Really, no need to feed the trolls.

(how about that for some hypocrisy?!)





Getting back to the topic at hand: iI seems like a good idea but don't get offended if we question the longevity factor. A lot of what has been discussed is stuff that has been tried over the years. This platform is almost 2 decades old so we're talking about a huge leap in technology, but also an extended history of mods both successful and not. I have looked into this just further for personal curiosity and it looks like Delphi makes a product that meets the dwell timing perfectly. I can't speak for anyone else here, but this has been fascinating info. I'm not one to jump on something without thorough research, but it has sparked some definite interest.

 

I must apologize then. I appreciate the input. And I see your point.

 

Keep it calm XTC. You have an interesting conversion and have gotten some good input. COP doesn't always make more power than plugs and wires. Like with any other automotive system there is a lot of variation, especially when mixing and matching components. A strong COP will generally perform slightly better than a plug and wire setup of the same output and quality though. If you're comparing the factory ignition system to a COP conversion I would expect slightly better than stock performance with the right components. Probably not enough to notice, maybe not enough to measure on the dyno with a stockish car.



Faith is right about sucking air through your intercooler though. That's doing nothing but restricting flow. You would be better off bypassing that until you're boosted. Otherwise it's just a restriction, absolutely a power drain instead of a power adder.

 

As for the intercooler being a restriction maybe so but really didnt notice. And as of now it is bypassed. And im holding on to my tits firmly now. I am sorry for my abrasive rant. Tooo much going on in life and at the shop. Its all got me a bit worked up.

 

Meh, I'd be less worried about "restriction" when having a stock engine is bad enough. Doubtful it'll do any harm so who really cares.

I was just giving you sh*t tbh and faith is.... well..... himself. Just give him +rep in response, he hates that

 

Thanks guys for pulling me back to ground level

 

All your article tells us is that a 300hp engine would see a 5-10hp gain by switching from STOCK coils, to PERFORMANCE coils. It does not saying anything about a gain from STOCK coils to STOCK COP coils.



Even then, they only saw 5-10hp in a V8 producing 300+hp.

A 5hp gain in a 300hp engine equates to maybe 2hp in our Beta using the same mod. Totally worth it right???

 

Ok so im going to be done with arguing after this. I was not talking about a HP gain. There is much more to modding than just General horse power gains. In this case its about a better throttle response and a lengthened / wider power band. More efficient ignition system and less the most common failure item ... plug wires. It looks as if you only took one portion of one article and made an assumption that higher power ratings were the ONLY reason to mod. Sorry but this is just not true. I really dont know what the gain would be, if any. Although, I would believe that there would be some. Next, as for stock for stock coils, that just isnt right. The power out of the stock Chrysler Delphi coil is higher than the output off the stock hyundai coil. So that would be an upgrade just as in the performance coil upgrade of the mustang in the article you referenced.



Sounds like the horse is dead in your eyes and I'm beating it. Whatever. ..



Sorry guys for the apparent nonsense of a mod ... I give up!