CNK Turbo Kit - Dyno Graph with CNK ECU
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Chris, you are the beasts of all beasts. smile.gif
btw....CHRIS!! I need the weight and dimensions of the radiator so I can get out the shipping quotes for the guys in the group buy!
Please e-mail me with this info.
I sent an e-mail to ya just in case you dont read this in time.
Chris, you are the beasts of all beasts. smile.gif
btw....CHRIS!! I need the weight and dimensions of the radiator so I can get out the shipping quotes for the guys in the group buy!
Please e-mail me with this info.
I sent an e-mail to ya just in case you dont read this in time.
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Hope you feel better now.
INFO :----- Maier's setup is TOTALLY different to the existing 300HP kit.... So don;t compare this to anything just yet --- Maiers car is being transformed into a new idea I have for power on a revised kit in the next year or two --- Maier's kit is also about to change very soon aswell (Maier keep the cat in the bag please)! I won't say anything at this stage, but Maier will need to replace D/shafts aswell as DIFF VERY SOON!
You keep changing the contents of the kit so often--you need set a definitive list of the parts that will be in the turbo kit you are selling. For all we know Maier's "kit" that he has isn't anywhere near the final product. Once again, I ask for a complete list from Chris of what is in the kit and a complete list from Maier of what he has in his car, down to the last detail that will affect the hp outcome of this kit.
Again about Maier's "kit" he has. If your "kit" is soooo complete, why does he have to wait for products from other companies? Shouldn't he be good to go with yours? What parts is he waiting on?
Here's more fuel for the fire.... I might be flying to the USA very soon if all pans out well in the next month or two, and when I do --- I personally INVITE Rob, DSM, Skierd, (watch the excuses fly now) and ALL the other sceptics to come WITNESS in person (so no excuses or BS can be said later on) the install I will be doing on HARRY'S CNK 400WHP Tiburon which WILL open your eyes a little bit! I will also like to hear the sceptics words after they personally witness the built car on the dyno after making it's expected power at the wheels at the set boost levels which are at this stage considered impossible....by DSM and co....It might help if you tell us where in the US this is. Also, I could give a less of a crap about this "custom" kit your installing. I don't care about that. I want to see in person the install of your "kit" you're selling and see it dynoed.
I will video this entire scene (of their faces and reactions) and post it on my web page (OH Rob have you seen this by the way??) and TRUST ME I will rub your noses in it for weeks for those lovely comments and ridicule you offered me a few weeks ago ... any of you takers in this invite?? you can RSVP to my NEW Email address ---- chris@cnk.co.za (Rob is CNK professional enough yet?? )
Wow. After 2 years you have a web page that says "Under Construction". Don't get too far ahead of yourself there.
since yuo have NEVER even seen any of my prodyts OR ordered ANY of them after being a representative for 2 YEARS!!You're wrong there. Remember the pistons and intercooler that Aaron ordered? Ya know, the one you never completed and wanted us to pay for the parts you didn't send to us? Yeah, I saw those products. We ended up selling the intercooler to a guy with an Integra because it was of no use to us.
As for not ordering anything. First off, we never had our store done. Secondly we never got a serious interest from anybody except for Rob (2UNIQ) which we did place an order for. 3rd, the only parts you had done were your pistons and intercooler. We can get the pistons cheaper from Korea and your intercooler was "universal" at best.
Rob if you treat your customers as badly you treat your business associates, then you have a problem a big problem with trying to open an online store --- here's my retaliation!
Ditto. You SERIOUSLY need to improve your customer service with orders. If you were in the U.S. when we did our order you would've been reported to the FTC for fraud.
engine internals that are performing MORE than their rated power (Ask Batlord)He is running what, 250whp? You've claimed that they will hold up to 400hp. I fail to see where that's proven with Yuri's car.
As for all the parts you're including, good for you. Lower your profit margin, that doesn't matter to me. I'm glad that people are getting more for their money.
You are COMPLETELY missing the point here. You provided me personally with poor customer service. If you'd like I still have the e-mail you sent me and it can be posted here (which I know is VERY bad business practice, but so is denying the poor service you gave us). On top of that, you are making claims that have not been proven with a reputable dyno. The only thing of CNK that I have slandered is your customer service. I never slandered your kit, I said it is unproven. I'll say the same thing about Alpine, A'PEX-i and everybody else. Right now there is not any dyno-proven turbo kits in the United States. That's it. That's all I ever said about your kit. Feel free to prove otherwise.
As for a trip out to SA, I would honestly consider it this year if I didn't have to plan for a honeymoon. I will probably take you up on this in 2004.
[ February 22, 2003, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: 4doorGL ]
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INFO :----- Maier's setup is TOTALLY different to the existing 300HP kit.... So don;t compare this to anything just yet --- Maiers car is being transformed into a new idea I have for power on a revised kit in the next year or two --- Maier's kit is also about to change very soon aswell (Maier keep the cat in the bag please)! I won't say anything at this stage, but Maier will need to replace D/shafts aswell as DIFF VERY SOON!
Again about Maier's "kit" he has. If your "kit" is soooo complete, why does he have to wait for products from other companies? Shouldn't he be good to go with yours? What parts is he waiting on?
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Here's more fuel for the fire.... I might be flying to the USA very soon if all pans out well in the next month or two, and when I do --- I personally INVITE Rob, DSM, Skierd, (watch the excuses fly now) and ALL the other sceptics to come WITNESS in person (so no excuses or BS can be said later on) the install I will be doing on HARRY'S CNK 400WHP Tiburon which WILL open your eyes a little bit! I will also like to hear the sceptics words after they personally witness the built car on the dyno after making it's expected power at the wheels at the set boost levels which are at this stage considered impossible....by DSM and co....
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I will video this entire scene (of their faces and reactions) and post it on my web page (OH Rob have you seen this by the way??) and TRUST ME I will rub your noses in it for weeks for those lovely comments and ridicule you offered me a few weeks ago ... any of you takers in this invite?? you can RSVP to my NEW Email address ---- chris@cnk.co.za (Rob is CNK professional enough yet?? )
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since yuo have NEVER even seen any of my prodyts OR ordered ANY of them after being a representative for 2 YEARS!!
As for not ordering anything. First off, we never had our store done. Secondly we never got a serious interest from anybody except for Rob (2UNIQ) which we did place an order for. 3rd, the only parts you had done were your pistons and intercooler. We can get the pistons cheaper from Korea and your intercooler was "universal" at best.
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Rob if you treat your customers as badly you treat your business associates, then you have a problem a big problem with trying to open an online store --- here's my retaliation!
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engine internals that are performing MORE than their rated power (Ask Batlord)
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I have top quality products, I have the right prices, and I have the most updated setups (thats why things change continuously - improved service and quality ALL the time!) I use the most updated components, turbochargers, engine management systems, engine internals that are performing MORE than their rated power (Ask Batlord) etc etc I challenge ANY company in the market place to produce a kit with the EXACT same list of components with the SAME SPEC or BETTER and at the same or better quality of workmanship at the same price I offer it for --- ANY COMPANY - if you do find this company ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, I will HALF THAT PRICE YOU FIND!!
I know of a few companies in Korea that just might jump on this.As for all the parts you're including, good for you. Lower your profit margin, that doesn't matter to me. I'm glad that people are getting more for their money.
You are COMPLETELY missing the point here. You provided me personally with poor customer service. If you'd like I still have the e-mail you sent me and it can be posted here (which I know is VERY bad business practice, but so is denying the poor service you gave us). On top of that, you are making claims that have not been proven with a reputable dyno. The only thing of CNK that I have slandered is your customer service. I never slandered your kit, I said it is unproven. I'll say the same thing about Alpine, A'PEX-i and everybody else. Right now there is not any dyno-proven turbo kits in the United States. That's it. That's all I ever said about your kit. Feel free to prove otherwise.
As for a trip out to SA, I would honestly consider it this year if I didn't have to plan for a honeymoon. I will probably take you up on this in 2004.
[ February 22, 2003, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: 4doorGL ]
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Rob if you treat your customers as badly you treat your business associates, then you have a problem a big problem with trying to open an online store
Wait a second, your getting yourself and Rob mixed up.YOU are the one that has screwed over and pissed off all YOUR bussiness partners.
BTW, not trying to jynx ourselves but I have yet to see one complaint from ANY of our customers. Can you say that?
Didn't think so suicide
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4doorGL:
He said the internals would only handle up to 300 hp. Where did you get 400hp from?
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engine internals that are performing MORE than their rated power (Ask Batlord)
He is running what, 250whp? You've claimed that they will hold up to 400hp. I fail to see where that's proven with Yuri's car.Senior Member

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lantraluvr:
He said the internals would only handle up to 300 hp. Where did you get 400hp from?
I would post a link to it on HP but somebody had to go through and delete all the posts they made rolleyes.gif .
He said the internals would only handle up to 300 hp. Where did you get 400hp from?
as a self-proclaimed masterdebater (pun intended and intended to be serious), rob is winning this debate. his retorts appear to be more factual and fact-based. however, cnk DOES have a kit out, which he has sold to a few people. however, *some* of those people are "sponsored" by cnk, too. i think we should let capitalism do its magic here. rob (hp) and chris (cnk) should discuss their discrepencies privately, and we, the forum users, should ask whatever questions we have about the kits that are offered. for instance, let's say i buy the cnk kit (unsponsored), and everything comes with it, it works fine, and i make the claimed hp, great. i'm an independent entity, and i've supported cnk's product, leading some to belive that cnk has a good product. let's let the market dictate the demand. if people buy brand-x kit and it doesn't work well, others will buy brand-y's kit. if brand-y's kit is better for the money, people will buy brand-y's kit, either inducing the manufacturer of brand-x to produce a better produce, continue (trying) selling his product, or cease to produce said product. it's simple. let some of us grow up and stop feeding on this difference of opinion, and let the products speak for themselves.
Rob --
I assume you are referring to the Intercooler charge pipes --- If you can remember on NUMEROUS occasions (and PlENTY people will be able to confirm this as I have Emails discussing this exact point with them) that there was NO CHARGE PIPING INCLKUDED IN THE INTERCOOLER KITS AT ALL!!!
Until now ---- I have finally released the charge piping as there was more and more demand for it. The reason it was not inluded at first was because everyone had their own turbo, own manifold and different fans etc -- how do you manufacture one set of charge pipes to fit every kind of manifold?!
Now that I do not make up custom charge pipes anymore, I supply the intercooler kit WITH the piping to fit the CNK kit.
The Web page has been registered and been on hold for over a year due to the company split and legal issues about the name relating to the products I manufacture. There has never been an instant where the lack of a registered domain has ever interfered with or hindered the CNK service which is at this point alot better than most companies in the market - don;t take my word for it, ask the customer who buy from me and compliment me on this continuously!
Rob - I deleted the posts as I want NOTHING to do with HP.COM at all! All my contributions were a total waste of time, and therefore shouldn;t belong on their site.
You not ordering from me has nothing to do with your store - if you are a representative for someone's products the MARKETING (of which you have none, or it is absolutely useless) IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY --- I manufacture the products, YOU SELL THEM! Perhaps since you still don;t even have a shop perhaps you didn't know that.
Profit margin .... hahahaha Rob you have never known this, but I don;t care about profit margin, CNK Performance is not my only business, it is my hobby since I am also an enthusiast - I care LESS about profit margin! I have even sold items where it has cost me money just to help the individual out!
If you read the various forus, I am snding out free ECU's and doing all sorts of free promotions with testing for the delta's, and I4's.... THATS the CNK advantage!
Now all I care about is to see your new turbo kit --- Please give us all a date when it will be ready? I want to rip it to shreads with lower prices on double the quality products!! moon
Regarding the power proof --- If yuo haven't read your Email ROB --- the original dyno is in there - I cc'd Random, Banner, Yuri, steve, john, and and and ----- what you have to say now? Does it make power or not....?
AND DON'T speak HOGWASH about US spec and UK SPEC rubbish, as there are US spec MAF versions of the Tiburon and Elatr'as in South Africa that have the same power produced from the exact list of components!
Give it a couple more weeks, and you will see all the kits destined for the US to be installed, and THEN we can talk the same language from the same country! Rob --- tell everyone about the Email I sent you last nite .... perhaps be kind or brave enough to post the "real" dyno print out PLEASE DO US THAT FAVOUR!
Lanraluvr - correct my claims on the CNK pistons are that they will handle 300HP --- they are handling over 250WHEEL HP!!! Rob - you get that, or you miss something again? 3 - not 4
Turbulence - WELL SAID - shipping of the newest kit recipients will be done SOON enough!
I think we should leave it at that for now -
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I assume you are referring to the Intercooler charge pipes --- If you can remember on NUMEROUS occasions (and PlENTY people will be able to confirm this as I have Emails discussing this exact point with them) that there was NO CHARGE PIPING INCLKUDED IN THE INTERCOOLER KITS AT ALL!!!
Until now ---- I have finally released the charge piping as there was more and more demand for it. The reason it was not inluded at first was because everyone had their own turbo, own manifold and different fans etc -- how do you manufacture one set of charge pipes to fit every kind of manifold?!
Now that I do not make up custom charge pipes anymore, I supply the intercooler kit WITH the piping to fit the CNK kit.
The Web page has been registered and been on hold for over a year due to the company split and legal issues about the name relating to the products I manufacture. There has never been an instant where the lack of a registered domain has ever interfered with or hindered the CNK service which is at this point alot better than most companies in the market - don;t take my word for it, ask the customer who buy from me and compliment me on this continuously!
Rob - I deleted the posts as I want NOTHING to do with HP.COM at all! All my contributions were a total waste of time, and therefore shouldn;t belong on their site.
You not ordering from me has nothing to do with your store - if you are a representative for someone's products the MARKETING (of which you have none, or it is absolutely useless) IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY --- I manufacture the products, YOU SELL THEM! Perhaps since you still don;t even have a shop perhaps you didn't know that.
Profit margin .... hahahaha Rob you have never known this, but I don;t care about profit margin, CNK Performance is not my only business, it is my hobby since I am also an enthusiast - I care LESS about profit margin! I have even sold items where it has cost me money just to help the individual out!
If you read the various forus, I am snding out free ECU's and doing all sorts of free promotions with testing for the delta's, and I4's.... THATS the CNK advantage!
Now all I care about is to see your new turbo kit --- Please give us all a date when it will be ready? I want to rip it to shreads with lower prices on double the quality products!! moon
Regarding the power proof --- If yuo haven't read your Email ROB --- the original dyno is in there - I cc'd Random, Banner, Yuri, steve, john, and and and ----- what you have to say now? Does it make power or not....?
AND DON'T speak HOGWASH about US spec and UK SPEC rubbish, as there are US spec MAF versions of the Tiburon and Elatr'as in South Africa that have the same power produced from the exact list of components!
Give it a couple more weeks, and you will see all the kits destined for the US to be installed, and THEN we can talk the same language from the same country! Rob --- tell everyone about the Email I sent you last nite .... perhaps be kind or brave enough to post the "real" dyno print out PLEASE DO US THAT FAVOUR!
Lanraluvr - correct my claims on the CNK pistons are that they will handle 300HP --- they are handling over 250WHEEL HP!!! Rob - you get that, or you miss something again? 3 - not 4
Turbulence - WELL SAID - shipping of the newest kit recipients will be done SOON enough!
I think we should leave it at that for now -
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One more response for 4doorgl.
The kit is a very well rounded kit.
I however, am aiming for a very high horsepower goal.
Thus, I needed to rebuild the whole engine.
I was waiting for parts such as Forged con-rods, gauges, engine parts, etc.
The kit is a very well rounded kit.
I however, am aiming for a very high horsepower goal.
Thus, I needed to rebuild the whole engine.
I was waiting for parts such as Forged con-rods, gauges, engine parts, etc.



