Apex'i N1 Style Exhaust Gb!
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Please don't make duplicate accounts. Your new one will be deleted.
We know all about that other stuff, reading the thread would have shown you that.
Last Seen: 15th May 2007 - 08:23 PM
We know all about that other stuff, reading the thread would have shown you that.
Last Seen: 15th May 2007 - 08:23 PM
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This really looks bad but i just wanted to say he is comming through with us on the SAMCO hoses. I'm supposed to recieve mine tomorrow, i'll let you guys know.
Maybe he will come through before the date that has been set with the exhausts? Hopefully they will.
Maybe he will come through before the date that has been set with the exhausts? Hopefully they will.
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Alright, I'm rolling.
3 Paypal complaints FILED.
FBI Internet Fraud Complaint = FILED.
Folks, anyone involved in ANY of these GB's, please PM me your Username, REAL name, phone number, how much they owe you, what you bought, and how you paid for it.
The shit just hit the fan.
Just carrying this info over for everyone. The phone # was answered, but by someone that said it's been his Cellphone Number for over 2 years. I think it was Mike avoiding us.
Okay, you guys and gals need to go here and complain.
http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/
Be detailed.
Lubbock Police Department contacted, awaiting Reply.
3 Paypal complaints FILED.
FBI Internet Fraud Complaint = FILED.
Folks, anyone involved in ANY of these GB's, please PM me your Username, REAL name, phone number, how much they owe you, what you bought, and how you paid for it.
The shit just hit the fan.
QUOTE (REDZMAN @ Apr 28 2007, 04:41 PM)
Agreed.
Okay, we have 2 group buys going on with you with NO updates going on.
I have $550 in your company, trying to help YOU out to get your name back good on these sites, and you can't tell me where my supposedly "Shipped" product is.
I want an update, and I'd like it NOW. I want to know :WHERE my exhaust is, not that it's in shipment, not that you are working on it, I want to know physically where it is, and a guarantee of when I will be getting it.
Anything less and I will file chargebacks, recommend the rest of the members of my site to do the rest. I will file fraud complaints with the FBI, your local police and sheriff office, and maybe with the department of homeland defense.
I'm not kidding, you've had enough time, and my patience has just worn thin enough to snap.
You have one week to post said update, with contact information that can be confirmed with Samco and Apexi to verify the status on these.
I just sent that via PM too.
Here is the contact information with this company.
11804 University Ave Suite M
Lubbock, Texas 79423
Phone: 1-(806)853-9866
Fax: 1-(806)853-9904
Sales
sales@phantomhp.com
Management
management@phantomhp.co
Michael Holton
GM-Owner
Michael@phantomhp.com
Michelle Holton
Owner/Business Mgr
Michelle@phantomhp.com
WHOIS Information for Phantom HP.com
Registration Service Provided By: Active-Domain Co.
Contact: registrar@active-domain.com
Domain name: phantomhp.com
Registrant Contact:
Michael Holton (PhantomHP@aol.com)
+1.8065355424
Fax:
2306 88th St
Lubbock, Tx 79423
US
Administrative Contact:
Michael Holton (PhantomHP@aol.com)
+1.8065355424
Fax:
2306 88th St
Lubbock, Tx 79423
US
Technical Contact:
Michael Holton (PhantomHP@aol.com)
+1.8065355424
Fax:
2306 88th St
Lubbock, Tx 79423
US
Status: Locked
Name Servers:
WSC1.JOMAX.NET
WSC2.JOMAX.NET
Creation date: 17 Jan 2004 00:03:24
Expiration date: 17 Jan 2008 00:03:24
http://www.google.com/maps?q=2306+88th+St,...ap&ct=title
^^^
Click here for a satelite view of their home.
Okay, we have 2 group buys going on with you with NO updates going on.
I have $550 in your company, trying to help YOU out to get your name back good on these sites, and you can't tell me where my supposedly "Shipped" product is.
I want an update, and I'd like it NOW. I want to know :WHERE my exhaust is, not that it's in shipment, not that you are working on it, I want to know physically where it is, and a guarantee of when I will be getting it.
Anything less and I will file chargebacks, recommend the rest of the members of my site to do the rest. I will file fraud complaints with the FBI, your local police and sheriff office, and maybe with the department of homeland defense.
I'm not kidding, you've had enough time, and my patience has just worn thin enough to snap.
You have one week to post said update, with contact information that can be confirmed with Samco and Apexi to verify the status on these.
I just sent that via PM too.
Here is the contact information with this company.
11804 University Ave Suite M
Lubbock, Texas 79423
Phone: 1-(806)853-9866
Fax: 1-(806)853-9904
Sales
sales@phantomhp.com
Management
management@phantomhp.co
Michael Holton
GM-Owner
Michael@phantomhp.com
Michelle Holton
Owner/Business Mgr
Michelle@phantomhp.com
WHOIS Information for Phantom HP.com
Registration Service Provided By: Active-Domain Co.
Contact: registrar@active-domain.com
Domain name: phantomhp.com
Registrant Contact:
Michael Holton (PhantomHP@aol.com)
+1.8065355424
Fax:
2306 88th St
Lubbock, Tx 79423
US
Administrative Contact:
Michael Holton (PhantomHP@aol.com)
+1.8065355424
Fax:
2306 88th St
Lubbock, Tx 79423
US
Technical Contact:
Michael Holton (PhantomHP@aol.com)
+1.8065355424
Fax:
2306 88th St
Lubbock, Tx 79423
US
Status: Locked
Name Servers:
WSC1.JOMAX.NET
WSC2.JOMAX.NET
Creation date: 17 Jan 2004 00:03:24
Expiration date: 17 Jan 2008 00:03:24
http://www.google.com/maps?q=2306+88th+St,...ap&ct=title
^^^
Click here for a satelite view of their home.
Just carrying this info over for everyone. The phone # was answered, but by someone that said it's been his Cellphone Number for over 2 years. I think it was Mike avoiding us.
Okay, you guys and gals need to go here and complain.
http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/
Be detailed.
QUOTE
Complaint Referral Form
Internet Crime Complaint Center
Please review your complaint for accuracy, prior to submitting it to the IC3.
The following information was provided by the victim and may be forwarded to the
appropriate law enforcement or regulatory agencies.
Your Personal Information* First Name:Jeremy
Middle Name:Lyle
* Last Name:Zimmerman
Business Name:www.rdtiburon.com
* Age:30 - 39
* Gender:M
Do you live within the city limits?: Yes No
County:Bernalillo
State:New Mexico
Name of your local police or sheriff's office:
[ no response provided ]
Is the complaint you are filing related to the Internet or an online service?
Yes No
Do you have pertinent documents in paper form?
Yes No
Information about the Individual/Business that victimized youBusiness Name
hantom HP
First Name:Michael and Michelle
Middle Name:
Last Name:Holton
Gender:U
Address:11804 University Ave
Address (continued):
Suite/Apt./Mail Stop:Suite M
City:Lubbock
State:Texas
Country:United States
Zip Code / Route:79423
Phone Number:8068539866
E-mail Address:sales@phantomhp.com
Other IdentifiersWeb Site:http://www.phantomhp.com/
IP Address:68.178.131.132
IRC Server:
Chat Room Name:
Usenet Newsgroup:
Other:
Monetary Loss
*Please specify the total dollar amount of your loss from this incident:
$ 550.00 (US Dollars)
Please indicate the means of payment (select all that apply)
Cash
Cashier's Check
Check/Debit Card
Credit Card
Money Order
Wire Transfer
Other (Specify Other) 3 individual paypal payments.
Did you use a third party online payment service such as PayPal, BidPay, Escrow?
Yes No
Description of the Incident*Describe in your own words how you have been victimized.
Be specific. Include date(s) of transaction(s), a description of any items that were not delivered or were counterfeited, any transaction numbers (from Ebay, Western Union, PayPal, etc.), and any other pertinent information that helps to explain how you were victimized. Also if you received anything by U.S. Mail, FedEx, or UPS, specifically describe the envelope, by the date, time, city and zip code shown on the stamp cancellation postmark.
This user, phantomHP registered on our website, www.rdtiburon.com to sell some hard to find parts for our cars in group discount sales to our members. The user was supplied with a list of parts that we were interested in, and the part numbers for a set of exhausts made by ApexI. These were to be special ordered and in our hands within a few months. http://www.rdtiburon.com/index.php?showtop...0&start=340 Parts were paid for, by at least 6 members of our site, and to this date, none of us have received anything. At least one member in Texas bought in the sale also, and was made to pay sales tax, for a part that still hasn't arrived. We've been given good updates for the first month or so, then they've practically disapeared from our site. I've requested a refund, as it's been almost 6 months now, and they cannot prove that they've ever even paid for the items from the Manufacturer. They have also done the same thing with some Radiator hoses for sale on our site, with at least 2 or 3 members out $140 each for those. Their phone # is now disconnected, and they aren't answering emails. We've come to find out during this sale that they owe thousands of dollars to several members on our website and a few others for PAST products that they've never shipped.
Please indicate any medium used by the individual/business in the course of the incident.
Bulletin board
Chat room
Email
Fax
In person
Internet messaging
Mail
Newsgroup
Telephone
Web site
Wire
Other
Please indicate the initial means of contact with the individual/business that victimized you.
Website
Was this initial means of contact unsolicited/uninvited?
Yes No
What was your relationship with the individual/business you are complaining about prior to the incident you are reporting?
online acquaintance
Did you conduct any research on the individual/business prior to the incident?
Yes No
How much time has passed since you determined you were victimized?
2 - 3 weeks
Contact Information
Are there witnesses or other victims to this crime?
There are a TON of witnesses. I will provide website addresses to the current SET of complaints against this company, and will ask the members involved that I can contact if they will let me submit their phone #'s, email addresses, and such. This is my first stop for complaint, I filed with paypal but it's past their complaint time span. http://www.rdtiburon.com/index.php?showtopic=18563 ^^^ Exhaust systems, at least 5, possibly more, $550 each, plus tax on at least one. http://www.rdtiburon.com/index.php?showtopic=19687 ^^^ Radiator Hoses, at least 2 sets, possibly more, $140 each. http://www.rdtiburon.com/index.php?showtopic=20321 http://www.hyundaiperformance.com/forums/g...ding-offer.html http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t=26...asc&start=0 ^^^ Ksport Coilover suspensions, 20 to 30 sets total or more, approximately $800 to $1200 PER SET. This is just the information I am FAMILLIAR with, I'm sure there is more.
Have you reported this crime to any law enforcement or government agencies?
Better Business Bureau
Consumer protection agency
Individual/business that victimized you
Police/other law enforcement
Private attorney
Provide the specific name of each organization, contact name, contact phone number, email address, date reported, and report number (if known).
Phantom Performance HP Michelle Holton 'michelle@phantomhp.com' 07 May 2007
Internet Crime Complaint Center
Please review your complaint for accuracy, prior to submitting it to the IC3.
The following information was provided by the victim and may be forwarded to the
appropriate law enforcement or regulatory agencies.
Your Personal Information* First Name:Jeremy
Middle Name:Lyle
* Last Name:Zimmerman
Business Name:www.rdtiburon.com
* Age:30 - 39
* Gender:M
Do you live within the city limits?: Yes No
County:Bernalillo
State:New Mexico
Name of your local police or sheriff's office:
[ no response provided ]
Is the complaint you are filing related to the Internet or an online service?
Yes No
Do you have pertinent documents in paper form?
Yes No
Information about the Individual/Business that victimized youBusiness Name
hantom HPFirst Name:Michael and Michelle
Middle Name:
Last Name:Holton
Gender:U
Address:11804 University Ave
Address (continued):
Suite/Apt./Mail Stop:Suite M
City:Lubbock
State:Texas
Country:United States
Zip Code / Route:79423
Phone Number:8068539866
E-mail Address:sales@phantomhp.com
Other IdentifiersWeb Site:http://www.phantomhp.com/
IP Address:68.178.131.132
IRC Server:
Chat Room Name:
Usenet Newsgroup:
Other:
Monetary Loss
*Please specify the total dollar amount of your loss from this incident:
$ 550.00 (US Dollars)
Please indicate the means of payment (select all that apply)
Cash
Cashier's Check
Check/Debit Card
Credit Card
Money Order
Wire Transfer
Other (Specify Other) 3 individual paypal payments.
Did you use a third party online payment service such as PayPal, BidPay, Escrow?
Yes No
Description of the Incident*Describe in your own words how you have been victimized.
Be specific. Include date(s) of transaction(s), a description of any items that were not delivered or were counterfeited, any transaction numbers (from Ebay, Western Union, PayPal, etc.), and any other pertinent information that helps to explain how you were victimized. Also if you received anything by U.S. Mail, FedEx, or UPS, specifically describe the envelope, by the date, time, city and zip code shown on the stamp cancellation postmark.
This user, phantomHP registered on our website, www.rdtiburon.com to sell some hard to find parts for our cars in group discount sales to our members. The user was supplied with a list of parts that we were interested in, and the part numbers for a set of exhausts made by ApexI. These were to be special ordered and in our hands within a few months. http://www.rdtiburon.com/index.php?showtop...0&start=340 Parts were paid for, by at least 6 members of our site, and to this date, none of us have received anything. At least one member in Texas bought in the sale also, and was made to pay sales tax, for a part that still hasn't arrived. We've been given good updates for the first month or so, then they've practically disapeared from our site. I've requested a refund, as it's been almost 6 months now, and they cannot prove that they've ever even paid for the items from the Manufacturer. They have also done the same thing with some Radiator hoses for sale on our site, with at least 2 or 3 members out $140 each for those. Their phone # is now disconnected, and they aren't answering emails. We've come to find out during this sale that they owe thousands of dollars to several members on our website and a few others for PAST products that they've never shipped.
Please indicate any medium used by the individual/business in the course of the incident.
Bulletin board
Chat room
Fax
In person
Internet messaging
Newsgroup
Telephone
Web site
Wire
Other
Please indicate the initial means of contact with the individual/business that victimized you.
Website
Was this initial means of contact unsolicited/uninvited?
Yes No
What was your relationship with the individual/business you are complaining about prior to the incident you are reporting?
online acquaintance
Did you conduct any research on the individual/business prior to the incident?
Yes No
How much time has passed since you determined you were victimized?
2 - 3 weeks
Contact Information
Are there witnesses or other victims to this crime?
There are a TON of witnesses. I will provide website addresses to the current SET of complaints against this company, and will ask the members involved that I can contact if they will let me submit their phone #'s, email addresses, and such. This is my first stop for complaint, I filed with paypal but it's past their complaint time span. http://www.rdtiburon.com/index.php?showtopic=18563 ^^^ Exhaust systems, at least 5, possibly more, $550 each, plus tax on at least one. http://www.rdtiburon.com/index.php?showtopic=19687 ^^^ Radiator Hoses, at least 2 sets, possibly more, $140 each. http://www.rdtiburon.com/index.php?showtopic=20321 http://www.hyundaiperformance.com/forums/g...ding-offer.html http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t=26...asc&start=0 ^^^ Ksport Coilover suspensions, 20 to 30 sets total or more, approximately $800 to $1200 PER SET. This is just the information I am FAMILLIAR with, I'm sure there is more.
Have you reported this crime to any law enforcement or government agencies?
Better Business Bureau
Consumer protection agency
Individual/business that victimized you
Police/other law enforcement
Private attorney
Provide the specific name of each organization, contact name, contact phone number, email address, date reported, and report number (if known).
Phantom Performance HP Michelle Holton 'michelle@phantomhp.com' 07 May 2007
Lubbock Police Department contacted, awaiting Reply.
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QUOTE (HyundaiGuy @ May 30 2007, 02:29 PM)
blah blah blah
this account is now deleted. the account you should use is "accentbuilder." i reset your password to your first name. no capital letters. use that account if needed
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just FYI, i have received NO reply email from phantom..
let us know when the samcos are IN HAND, but that has nothing to do with these exhausts, if they coulda handled samco, they should be doing what they can with this..
let us know when the samcos are IN HAND, but that has nothing to do with these exhausts, if they coulda handled samco, they should be doing what they can with this..
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well its past june 1st... sorry phantom, but you are done as a vendor on here as soon as EVERYONE that wanted their money back gets it back. you will now be placed under a non trustworthy dealer on these forums, and i will do my best to make sure you dont make any other sales.
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FYI, another reason you are DONE on rd is the fact you have over 3000$ in our money and haven't even logged on this site since MAY 15, thats over 2 weeks without even signing on. you have our money, you have a business, you keep us updated, simple as that..
hopefully me and redz can get in contact with your local authorities and take care of this mess.
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FYI, another reason you are DONE on rd is the fact you have over 3000$ in our money and haven't even logged on this site since MAY 15, thats over 2 weeks without even signing on. you have our money, you have a business, you keep us updated, simple as that..
hopefully me and redz can get in contact with your local authorities and take care of this mess.