UFB's Turbo and Pistons with the 1.8L
01-26-2002, 07:04 AM
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UFB,
The pre-2000 tiburons in the US came in 1.8L (base) and 2.0L (FX) models. Since the 2000 year, they are all 2.0L
But there are quite a few 1.8's running around here in the States.
If you could look into tuning maps, I'd appreciate it. Another option I'm looking at is getting a 2.0L crank and conrods (the only thing we need to convert to a 2.0L engine, besides the ECU).
I have a datalogger for my car, I could help out by doings some runs and watching ignition timing and injector duty cycle at different rpms and engine loads. That might be a start. . .
ac
The pre-2000 tiburons in the US came in 1.8L (base) and 2.0L (FX) models. Since the 2000 year, they are all 2.0L
But there are quite a few 1.8's running around here in the States.
If you could look into tuning maps, I'd appreciate it. Another option I'm looking at is getting a 2.0L crank and conrods (the only thing we need to convert to a 2.0L engine, besides the ECU).
I have a datalogger for my car, I could help out by doings some runs and watching ignition timing and injector duty cycle at different rpms and engine loads. That might be a start. . .
ac
01-29-2002, 04:59 AM
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Curtas -
Thanks for the info and the willingness to help - right now we have our hands full, but we will look into the 1.8L tuning and perhaps a slightly differen piston configuration to solve compresison ratio issues aswell. Everything else will fit 100%
Thanks for the info and the willingness to help - right now we have our hands full, but we will look into the 1.8L tuning and perhaps a slightly differen piston configuration to solve compresison ratio issues aswell. Everything else will fit 100%
01-29-2002, 05:27 AM
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The turbo kit will definately NOT fit a 1.6L BETA engine.
The 1.6L engines use the 1.8L crank but a completely different piston size. I'm guessing they also use different rods because the block casting is different, so Hyundai has probably modified the block height for a more "compact" configuration to match the de-stroked and de-bored size.
We do know the cams are the same though, which leads me to believe that perhaps the cylinder head port placement (ie intake manifold and exhaust manifold) will be similar enough to bolt on UFB's external components.
There's too many unknowns on the 1.6L engine to be very sure of anything... But I do know the pistons are different.
-Red-
The 1.6L engines use the 1.8L crank but a completely different piston size. I'm guessing they also use different rods because the block casting is different, so Hyundai has probably modified the block height for a more "compact" configuration to match the de-stroked and de-bored size.
We do know the cams are the same though, which leads me to believe that perhaps the cylinder head port placement (ie intake manifold and exhaust manifold) will be similar enough to bolt on UFB's external components.
There's too many unknowns on the 1.6L engine to be very sure of anything... But I do know the pistons are different.
-Red-
01-29-2002, 06:50 AM
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Hey Red,
What would it take to upgrade the 1.8L to the 2.0?
I was thinking just crank, rods, and ECU? I'm pretty sure the injectors, fuel pump, block, etc are the same; but I'm not sure, so that's why I ask.
ECU would be taken care of in the kit, and if I'm changing the pistons anyway, it seems like replacing the crank might not be too bad of an option.
Or is it so hard and expensive that I should probably just buy a 2.0L long block?
ac
What would it take to upgrade the 1.8L to the 2.0?
I was thinking just crank, rods, and ECU? I'm pretty sure the injectors, fuel pump, block, etc are the same; but I'm not sure, so that's why I ask.
ECU would be taken care of in the kit, and if I'm changing the pistons anyway, it seems like replacing the crank might not be too bad of an option.
Or is it so hard and expensive that I should probably just buy a 2.0L long block?
ac
01-29-2002, 07:01 AM
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The current operating theory is just what you outlined: crank, rods, ECU. I don't have 100% verification on that, but I know that basically everything else (longblock) mechanically and electronically between the two is identical.
If you can get a crank and rods, you could probably "swap" for a 2.0L setup. In fact if you need a stock ECU and can wait a month, I'll have one for sale
-Red-
If you can get a crank and rods, you could probably "swap" for a 2.0L setup. In fact if you need a stock ECU and can wait a month, I'll have one for sale
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02-03-2002, 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Curtas:
The pre-2000 tiburons in the US came in 1.8L (base) and 2.0L (FX) models. Since the 2000 year, they are all 2.0L
The pre-2000 tiburons in the US came in 1.8L (base) and 2.0L (FX) models. Since the 2000 year, they are all 2.0L
Actually, it was 1999 that they were all 2.0L. Tiburons and Elantras were all 2.0L in 1999 foward.