I think if you drop the weight like mentioned above and learn how to force a shift with your automatic, you might stand a chance.

When I had my Dodge Avenger (automatic) I learned the threshholds of each shift. I don't know if anyone understands what I am about to explain, but what I experienced is that most people with automatics tend to floor (or hold it down evenly) the gas pedal and just hold it thru until they reach their fast speeds. With my Avenger I noticed that flooring the pedal at first but then pumping it really quick once or twice after I reached a certain RPM I was able to "manually" force it to push the engine a little harder (I haven't driven it in a while so I don't remember at what RPM). I haven't done it in a long while, but I am sure that anyone who has ever really messed around with an automatic knows what I am talking about. I don't know if it would help you in your race, but you might want to mess around with it and test it on your own and see what works best for you or if even works with your car.

If anyone knows what I am talking about please feel free to either correct me or expound on what I am talking about. I am still new with alot of this stuff so I might be giving bad advice, hehe, so I don't mind being corrected cuz I wouldn't want to mess up your fun!

 

thats something to test man, if it works I bet it would help alot. But thats IF it works. lol

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shark2006 @ Oct 31 2006, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>flooring the pedal at first but then pumping it really quick once or twice after I reached a certain RPM I was able to "manually" force it to push the engine a little harder</div>

100% pure unadultrated bull schmit.

Do the math...can you car go any faster than full throttle?
While at WOT....closing the throttle does...what? (Slows the car down in case you weren't sure)

Pump it like it's hott, fondle it, rub it with the neither regions of a sheep, b**** slap it, introduce it to small children then lock the doors, ...the ONLY thing that works is... FLOORING It.

You MIGHT get better times by manually shifting the autotragic slushbox vs letting it shift for itself, but with some manual transmissions, that's a recipe for blown tranmsission if you farque up a shift (go too far an hit "N" rather than "3" or god forbid...slam it into reverse). It depends on the engine's torque curve and when the auto tranny shifts between gears. 99% of the time...the autotranny knows better than the driver, and will shift at the right point.

But you are NEVER, EVER(even on Sundays and/or National/Religious Holidays) going to get a better/faster time, by "pumpin" the gas pedal like a cheap whore. It probably made you FEEL like you were going faster, but you were just fooling yourself into thinking your mad pumpin' skillz contributed to the car's performance. When you've got an autotragic slush box...you've got 2 options.
Floor it, and let it shift for you
Or Floor it, and you do the shifting.

My SWAG is that your "pump it like it's hott" trick confused the TCM. Rather than shifting at the HP peak (several hundred RPM shy of redline), the "footloose manuver", made the ECU/TCM module compare numbers again, keeping you in that gear just a half second or second longer, before doing a shift (and probably bouncing off the redline, or damn close). THis made you think you were using "all" of the engine. IN reality, the TCM was properly calibrated @ the factory to shift just after HP peak, because the next gear would then drop the RPM's into the torque peak, or at least the "meat" of the torque curve. Sure you got an extra 500 RPM out of each gear, but at the expense of .25 Seconds of Full throttle...which ends up being a net loss.

 

best advice is going to be....
put ECT mode on POWER
turn overdrive OFF
brake stand for about 1 second max before the light goes green, if you do it too much, its hard on your tranny, but if you do it right, you can actually squak the tires a bit on take-off.

pumping and sport shifting do not make you go faster.

 

Do you still have the chrome wheels? Make sure to take them off before the race stock tib wheels are heavy but chrome will be even more.

 

Truthfully, The comment the guy with the GK made about pumping the gas... Doesnt that just sound like every ricer youve come accross with an avenger, or a GK at that! Sorry If im offending anybody but around here there has been a couple major cheeseballs with avengers and and GK's and it just doesnt surpise me at all..

BTW every automatic rd ive ever messed with has been... [omg.......KiLL mE!¿ slow... ] so I dont see a mid 16 happenin.

 

Yeah I took the chrome wheels off. I figure at the tracks or until I get rid of the chrome and get lighter ones Ill stick with the stock. Ill just use the chrome ones occasionally, but deffinatly not to race in. haha that pump the gas did sound ricey. And I was also planning on taking out the passenger seat. BUT im not sure on that yet.

 

omfg, random you are friggin hilarious...

yah avenger guys, lol.. jeeebus... ive seen my share of ricervenger boys..

 

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Random always brings a smile to my face.

**thinks about hamsters with little phillop screws up their butts

 

My buddies got an auto 94 RS and i have a stick 98 fx, but honestly, his car isn't that quick.. Given, it's a tired old maro, but still, I thought it was much faster than it was. We weren't racing, but he was pushing it and i could tell by his acceleration...