If you swap in a Theta you are going to need the ECU from the Theta. So reprogramming our ECU's really doesn't come into play. And just swapping in a ECU programmed for use with a turbo is silly, unless they are very similar engines and you use a turbo setup off of a Theta.

 

Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. If the Theta ECU is setup like a Talon ECU it reads boost well. Whereas our stock Beta ECU's fight it. That's all, it'd be nice if that was swappable, but that doesn't make them money. The way you're explaining it is probably the wa they'll go.

 

To do a swap you are going to need at minimum.. engine, ECU, and the wiring harness to match the two up... then you will probably need the full fuel injection system too... best bet.. wait until a few get wrecked and buy a parts car.

 

If a swap is possible, waiting wouldn't take very long down here. Mad, You know how traffic is around DC. ;-)

 

HEre soome pictures of it.



Looks to be open deck design, Good for n/a and gas mileage and keep cool.


Not good for over 200k miles and/or high boost.

Beta would be better still for high boost.

http://allpar.com/mopar/world-engine.html

 

No, Kspec.com won't sell them.

1. We allready have an option for a 6speed Tranny. There is a I4 6Speed in Korean Tibs. I think it's heading here.

2. Theta, woohoo. Now get us some specs. What IS nice about it is with everyone turning to the H now, that motor will be VERY popular. More mods!

3. Spike = :roll:

 

Hmmm... that 2.4L engine seems interesting. Chrysler is expecting 170hp out of it. That would put us up at the GKs stock horsepower, plus we weigh like 500 pounds less right now. Since the GK is a bored out 2.4, boring out that engine, if it fits, plus the modifications that GKs use and the fact that it is more efficient, might put us up near 210whp n/a. Purty sweet.

 

from what I remember from Spike's posts in HP.com... the Theta is designed for a 300,000 mile life cycle.. where as the beta is designed for 180,000. An open deck design would be easy to bore out.. just replace pistons and liners... you might want to look into a deck spacer/retainer if you are going mad boost though.

I just want the I4 six speed

 

GK delta 2.7 is a bored out Delta 2.5 from the 2000 sonata.


Which has nothing to do with a 2.4L 4cyc.

 

Mmmm...I dunno if you people are familiar with aluminum vs iron...but aluminum expands and contracts a lot more than iron. If you wanted to boost your aluminum block, you would most likely have to put in iron sleeves, to preven the expansion and contraction.

And also, if you were to boost an aluminum block to much higher HP, you would need to reinforce the block to take that pressure. Which means, in the end, you're spending more to make your aluminum block to withstand your high HP output, and making it weigh more. So, in the end....you'll be spending more money on a high HP output aluminum block vs a same level HP output on an iron block.

That's the only disadvantage I see to this. Yeah, it's great that the block comes out stock with higher HP output, but you people need to see the long-term perspective of turbocharging. The Theta block is a revolution, but it's a hinderance.

At best, to be honest, an aluminum block is probably better off as a N/A engine or low boosting S/Cing. Turboing...well...there's always that yearn for more boosting...and the truth is that your aluminum blocks will need a lot of money before it can take that pressure.

And honestly, are you people going to even really bother with a swap like that? Spend virtually $2000+ for a new engine, ECU, wiring harness...maybe tranny (dunno if they're still using the same trannies or not...maybe the older ones will still bolt up, maybe not)....and all for what? 40HP+? Better if you bought a better used engine, and turbo it. :roll: