Stocker

Agreed. Somebody go tell Tibbi's mom he's off his meds again. Good luck with that whole insanity thing, Tibbi.

Tibbi

Again, more relevant come backs to actual facts provided in a satirical manor.





I mean, it's cool and all. You can buy the.... what ever you want to consider it.... but obviously I'm onto something when both of you get this butthurt. If it were a non-issue, no one would get this offended by words on the internet. That's okay though. You can come at me like that.

It's cool, try to strike me down

wheel_of_steel

Every vehicle has a ride/handling tradeoff. Or in more family-relevant terms, a comfort/safety tradeoff. Having a raised vehicle will always make that tradeoff worse. For the same level of safety as an equivalent wagon, an SUV must have a stiffer ride. And vice versa. So there's that.



There's also the fact that FWD based e-diff on-demand AWD systems only provide a negligible benefit in the rough stuff. A well driven 2WD car will go almost as far, and neither will approach the broken surface usability of a proper 4WD. Don't even get me started on the pointlessness of 2WD SUVs.



So if we're taking the 'family' angle here, or the 'practicality' angle, or the 'safety' angle, buy a decent 7 seater wagon and call it a day. Or buy a 70 series landcruiser if you actually want to go off road.

Stocker

My wife's SUV/minivan (Terraza) has stability and traction control. The stability control can't be turned off. I only managed to activate it once, doing something that put my ELANTRA up on two wheels doing the same thing. The van with it's oh-so-dangerous high CG did NOT go on two wheels.



But when I put three people in the back seat of my wife's truck/car abomination, they don't have to crawl over a seat like they would if it were a wagon. Oh, plus there is another row of seats and room to stow all our crap in the back, and we can lock everything inside.



Just because YOU don't think the design compromises are worth it, does not mean the design is without merit to a different customer. Inability to recognize this fact is why you are bringing 2nd-grade level responses in a this thread. And with that, I'll leave you to your own insanity. Have fun!

Tibbi

Cool story.







Just like a van. Damn! I wish I have brought that up within the 2nd response.

wheel_of_steel

I don't see what benefits the Terraza has over any other 7 seater vehicle. More specifically, I don't understand how raising it would make it a better family car.





Now those two incidents you had in your various cars, that was your particular 'experiment' with a sample group of two. But multiply the slightly shittier handling of a raised vehicle over a population of 300 million drivers, then the outliers become insignificant and you can fill a gym with needless corpses.

Tibbi

There's no point in making logical arguments. They're just going to call names and fling dung either way.

Troll and have fun. It's a lot less frustrating.

Cujo