The CAI is easy to install, and can be done between 30 minutes and 1.5 hours. Depending on how handy/speedy you are and if you have the right tools at hand. In general, I would say between 45 minutes to an hour.

[ May 11, 2001: Message edited by: Random ]

 

That was pretty lame. From what I seen of kores products at carlise. All of his equipment is top notch. I really like the exhaust. Matter of fact I am going to buy the stainless steel later this summer.

 

And another note. The kore intake is better than weapons r and a lot others on the market. You should have checked yourself before recked yourself! Just consider this a lesson learned the hard way!

 

The pricing is somewhere around $250 for the automatic CAI w/o the bypass, $280-$290 w/ the bypass....Thank for all the info guys. =-)

 

RANDOM,
Just a few points for arguments sake. What sort of "research & development" do you think would go into a CAI? Basically you have a tube replacing the stock airbox, resonator, intake tube, and filter. Once you remove all of this you only have to figure out where you are going to run this tube to. So you get a flexible piece of aluminum tubing from the hardware store of the appropriate diameter, stretch it out, make the bends, and you have your tube. Somebody reproduces this in metal, you add your connectors, filter, misc. brackets and you have your CAI. It can only go one way in the engine compartment so it's not like you have to find the best route for the tubing. Diameter is pretty much set by the throttle body size. Some dyno time just so you can advertise the gains. Obviously all of this costs no where near the $200 and up figures quoted for a CAI. And I'm sure that alot of this profit is going into "developing" other performance parts for Hyundai's. I fully understand what you are saying about "market" pricing and making a fair profit but I can tell you that with a little researcing for the proper size tubing I could produce the same CAI for under $50.00 easily. Right now I am in the process of making a simple, inexpensive mould so that I can form a custom CAI out of carbon fiber cloth for my Elantra. I've been involved with modifying speciality cars for 30 years and I'm amazed at how expensive the aftermarket parts for current day cars has gotten. Also, in the process of experimenting with my factory intake, I have removed everything leading up to the stock air box and replaced it with a piece of flexible aluminum 3" tubing which I have routed to a hole cut right in front of the left front wheel (where the KORE CAI exits).
I started the car and rev'd the engine while placing my hand over the opening. Now the suction is quite strong and I was wondering if having a regular CAI is going to produce a stronger suction than this. It would seem to me that there is going to be a limit as to how much air the stock TB can actually flow. What are your thoughts on this?

 

Damn!! I should've seen is forum earlier..
I already bought the stupid wepon R intake.. I've been hearing only bad things about them.. Is it that bad?

 

allhyundai

Yes, there has been R&D work done on the Kore CAI's. They use 3" tubing because that is what their testing told them gave the best HP numbers. Dyno time runs between $50 for a single run to $100 in some markets for one hour of dyno time (usually 3 runs).

If KORE only tested 2 or 3 intakes, they would have had to spend at least $150 to $300 in dyno testing. That doesnt count filter testing, doesnt count the cost of materals used in testing. That doesn't count MAN HOURS in testing.

You say you can make a CAI for $50? The cheapest air filter I know of is the APC unit for $25. That leaves you with $25 to make your CAI. Will you put your name on it and sell it for $50? How much is YOUR TIME WORTH? How much time are you going to spend creating the CAI, marketing the CAI, and trying to SELL the CAI? A limited production run of say 50 CAI's will cost you how much out of your pocket? ($2500 for $50 per CAI) That is $2500 you have to come up with out of your pocket...while you wait for them to be made...while you wait for people to buy them. How much is your Money's Time worth????

Sure, anyone can make a CAI. I even posted/sent out instructions on how to make a 'Random special" CAI, but I claimed no HP figures, and told people it looked "ghetto" because it did! But to run a business, there are all kinds of hidden costs that most people never stop to think about. Think about all the steps involved in making your CAI...how much time it takes, you, and that KORE or MHP have the right to earn a living for doing so.... That is why they cost $200.

Also...for the simple reason people are willing to pay $200 for the intake. That is the "market" price. If someone were to come out with an intake that looked as good as the competition, performed as good as the competion, and was priced below the competition...of course people would buy it....but that has not happened yet...

[ May 12, 2001: Message edited by: Random ]

 

Hey Allhyundai, what are you gonna use for connectors??? I know you're not gonna be using HKS turbo ones will you??? please let me know, it'll be interesting to see how you will do it??? Grey tape don't work that good man... and as far as R&D I won't even go into that with you man, I mean it, I'd love for you to go thru with this, and they dyno, please post the numbers and pics of true dyno pages, and the tel. number of the shop that you went to, thank you

 

This really ticks me off. Basically companys like Kore, SharkRacing, MHP, HVE, SpeedState are giving us an aftermarket for hyundai. For hyundai to become an import force we need these companies. As simple as that. This is why you should buy your aftermarket stuff from them and not build it yourself

1. They stand by there products. Who is going to stand by you. With your second rate intake?

2. A lot of money, time and research has gone into everything they make.( Try to dyno your $50 intake)

3. These companys know hyundai a lot better than greedy, hks, Weapon R and you. You think it is easy to make an intake. Weapon R makes a living making intakes and their tiburon intakes sucks!(And I don't mean in the right way)And what makes you think you can make something better than them.

4. As stated before, beacuse of them we have an aftermarket of intakes, exhuasts, headers, struct bars, body kits etc.

In summary, stop being cheap. Anything you build will not match the quality or performance of what these companies make.


[ May 13, 2001: Message edited by: Jaws ]

 

Interesting response!! So according to you I should take my 30 plus years of automotive hotrodding experience, throw it out the window, get in line with the rest of the import owners with my credit card and fill the pockets of the aftermarket parts makers? No thanks!! Just because you and the majority of others out there don't have the ability, knowledge, or interest to do it doesn't mean that the few of us who do know have to follow the crowd. I read the forums all of the time about Hyundai owners who buy performance parts and don't have a clue as to what the parts do or why they work. They buy them because everyone else has them on their car. They can't even install a simple CAI or strut bar on their car, they have to take it to a shop to have it done. I call them "credit-card hot-rodders". Just to let you know where I'm coming from, I'm 47 yrs old, I've been working on cars since I was 13. I've worked in every position at new car dealers from lot boy to service manager. I operated my own import repair facility. I restore British sports cars as a hobby. I could take apart completely my 2000 Elantra, 2001 Santa Fe, '92 Sonata, '72 MG Midget, '77 TVR, and put them back together. I've worked in the boat business repairing, modifying, and fabricating parts. I've been involved with sports car racing since the 70's. So I think I know what I'm doing when it comes to things auto related. I get alot more satisfaction from building my own parts, figuring out why they work and tweaking them for the best performance. I care little about shiny chrome and colored hoses. My engine bay looks as "professional" as any of yours that are filled with aftermarket accessories. And I have the satisfaction of knowing that I have a "one-of-a-kind" part that I built with my own brain and two hands!! I don't need a DYNO to tell me what gains I have made, my years of experience will tell me that. I don't race or show my car so I'm not looking to impress anyone and I don't have anything to prove. You should try opening your mind to what others out there have to offer.