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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 03:27 PM
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who cares if its lighter? honestly who swaps in a motor just to leave it 100% stock



the difference in POWER make the few lbs of difference a moot point



the difference in FUEL MILEAGE make the lbs difference a moot point



the difference in RELIABILITY make the few lbs of difference a moot point
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tibbi
Again, if you want to compare boost to boost, the field is even.
Nope.



You can get over 1000hp N/A out of a LSX block.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnq7qja7As8



Look up 2000hp rotary - there will be no relevant results.



Look up 2000hp LSX and you'll get a lot of links, including this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArUFGCLMZxE



Look up 3200hp LSX and you'll find this link, where you can buy one for $38,500.



That's not quite but in the neighborhood of twice the most powerful rotary I could find.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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I have a target weight.

The ls-blah in stock trim shoots me over that weight limit.



An 86 6 port NA 13B fits my needs for weight, hp, and torque in the chassis I am designing.



If I wanted raw power I'd use an all aluminum W16 with titanium rods...
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Why not run a Hayabusa engine if you're worried about weight?
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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I think Radical SR8's are pretty darn light and they run V8's made from a custom block and crank with two 'Busa heads and two sets of 'Busa rods/pistons. If that's too pricey, a stock 'Busa motor should work great. Plus, it comes neatly packaged with an included 6 speed sequential dog-box tranny.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 187sks
Why not run a Hayabusa engine if you're worried about weight?


Thought about it, but in the end a bike engine needs more work to fit into the chassis.



I could redesign, but I've got 4 iterations on this design and it's getting better and better.



Sorry to get this so off topic...
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by faithofadragon
who cares if its lighter? honestly who swaps in a motor just to leave it 100% stock

the difference in POWER make the few lbs of difference a moot point

the difference in FUEL MILEAGE make the lbs difference a moot point

the difference in RELIABILITY make the few lbs of difference a moot point




No one said it was a swap to stock, I keep saying various porting methods are still able to make good raw power. And a 4mpg difference in economy isn't going to negate the lb difference if you are using a light enough chassis to begin with. The power difference is only present if you're referring to drag racing and require 4 figures but don't have access to turbo parts. In fact, contrary to the obvious overwhelming opinion there are a number of r26b builds out there that are purpose built drag cars, in fact go back to the 787 whose n/a quad rotor produced 700hp. As for the reliability argument, any engine whose fan-base regards 150k as "just breaking it in" cant relly by definition be called unreliable. What's unreliable are these multi-thousand hp drag cars that you guys keep posting, which require a rebuild between each race. This really has gotten silly.
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 12:42 AM
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Busa engines don't have an appropriate powerband for use in a heavy vehicle, imho.
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wheel_of_steel
Busa engines don't have an appropriate powerband for use in a heavy vehicle, imho.


A custom built car with an "under 50 inch width" (as stated above), shouldn't be very heavy.
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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Well. It's not very heavy, but pretty heavy compared to the sportbike it came from. If you took the engine from a large ag bike, that might be another story.
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