REAL Race Engineering Automotive Lab
I am writing on behalf of our REAL's head engineer who will be most likely to make your reply in this forum.
First, we at REAL Co. greatly appreciate the opportunity given from Hyundai Aftermarket by Random.
Briefly, REAL head engineer have 8 years experience working ECM technology and work closely with Hyundai R&D in Korea. 2 years working for Nextech Co. and directing Carman Racing Team at same time. Hold 90% market share in ECU related re-program tool in Korea.
Since he speak and write some English, he wants to be ask questions base on direct subject.
Example:
1) lowering engine compression solution
2) ?????
race-real have good knowledge in engine system, electrical wiring, E.C.U. not only standalone type, but also have re-program tool for HKS FCON-VPRO, and any piggy back systems like MOTEC, HALTECH, GREDDY E-MANAGER for all Hyundai and Kia cars. Complete ECU solution provider.
2race4REAL, I will be answering non technical quetions unless it is related to racing.
Initially, we are bringing 400hp Hyundai Tiburon 2000 model street version for showoff at the local track test and media coverage.
Later, we will bring 700hp drag racing car as we have firm contract with a few sponsor we are working right now.
Thank you.
REAL USA / Nextech
2323 N. Tustin Ave. Suite N
Santa Ana, CA
First, we at REAL Co. greatly appreciate the opportunity given from Hyundai Aftermarket by Random.
Briefly, REAL head engineer have 8 years experience working ECM technology and work closely with Hyundai R&D in Korea. 2 years working for Nextech Co. and directing Carman Racing Team at same time. Hold 90% market share in ECU related re-program tool in Korea.
Since he speak and write some English, he wants to be ask questions base on direct subject.
Example:
1) lowering engine compression solution
2) ?????
race-real have good knowledge in engine system, electrical wiring, E.C.U. not only standalone type, but also have re-program tool for HKS FCON-VPRO, and any piggy back systems like MOTEC, HALTECH, GREDDY E-MANAGER for all Hyundai and Kia cars. Complete ECU solution provider.
2race4REAL, I will be answering non technical quetions unless it is related to racing.
Initially, we are bringing 400hp Hyundai Tiburon 2000 model street version for showoff at the local track test and media coverage.
Later, we will bring 700hp drag racing car as we have firm contract with a few sponsor we are working right now.
Thank you.
REAL USA / Nextech
2323 N. Tustin Ave. Suite N
Santa Ana, CA
In case of E-manager.
It is possible but it needs special modify and find some back door.
I already tested E-manager installation for Hyunday & Kia car.
All kind of sub ECU installation is depend on ECU system especially as follow
1) Crank angle sensor type
2) Cam angle sensor type
3) Air measure sensor type
4) Ignition TR type.
Hyundai Tiburon use 3 types of ECU
1) Tiburon (1997-2001) :
US model : Bosch M4.6 88 pin ECU
KDM & general model : Siemens Fenix 5.2 55
pin ECU
2) Tiburon (Tuscani 2003) : Siemens Sam 2000 81
pin ECU
I think you car is Bosch M4.6, is it right ?
It is easy to figure out, if you can see Air flow sensor in your engine room, it is Bosch M4.6
This ECU use follows sensor
1)Crank angle sensor type -- 60 tooths
2) Cam angle sensor type --
3) Air measure sensor type -- Air flow
4) Ignition TR type --- ECU internal
So...in E-manager software & manual.
There is no software menu for Hyundai and deep switch setting.
If you want to use E-manager 100%
I find back door as follows
1)Crank angle sensor type -- 60 tooths (Toyota)
2) Cam angle sensor type -- (Toyota)
3) Air measure sensor type -- Air flow --
(Toyota)
4) Ignition TR type --- ECU internal
ECU modify.
This is problem..E-manager can not support
internal TR type ECU, so you must modify
ECU as external TR type.
If you want to use 50%..
It means that it is impossible to use ignition change menu in E-manager.
You can just use Fuel change.
It is perfect.
And so on...if you want to change ignition timing a little bit, you can use Air flows map in the E-manager menu.
If you increase Air flows map value, Ignition timing is retard and decrease Air flow map value, Ignition timing is Advance.
It is possible but it needs special modify and find some back door.
I already tested E-manager installation for Hyunday & Kia car.
All kind of sub ECU installation is depend on ECU system especially as follow
1) Crank angle sensor type
2) Cam angle sensor type
3) Air measure sensor type
4) Ignition TR type.
Hyundai Tiburon use 3 types of ECU
1) Tiburon (1997-2001) :
US model : Bosch M4.6 88 pin ECU
KDM & general model : Siemens Fenix 5.2 55
pin ECU
2) Tiburon (Tuscani 2003) : Siemens Sam 2000 81
pin ECU
I think you car is Bosch M4.6, is it right ?
It is easy to figure out, if you can see Air flow sensor in your engine room, it is Bosch M4.6
This ECU use follows sensor
1)Crank angle sensor type -- 60 tooths
2) Cam angle sensor type --
3) Air measure sensor type -- Air flow
4) Ignition TR type --- ECU internal
So...in E-manager software & manual.
There is no software menu for Hyundai and deep switch setting.
If you want to use E-manager 100%
I find back door as follows
1)Crank angle sensor type -- 60 tooths (Toyota)
2) Cam angle sensor type -- (Toyota)
3) Air measure sensor type -- Air flow --
(Toyota)
4) Ignition TR type --- ECU internal
ECU modify.
This is problem..E-manager can not support
internal TR type ECU, so you must modify
ECU as external TR type.
If you want to use 50%..
It means that it is impossible to use ignition change menu in E-manager.
You can just use Fuel change.
It is perfect.
And so on...if you want to change ignition timing a little bit, you can use Air flows map in the E-manager menu.
If you increase Air flows map value, Ignition timing is retard and decrease Air flow map value, Ignition timing is Advance.
Elanra 1.6 beta...
I already tuned Elantra 1.6 Beta for Race car 4 years ago.
Did you buy your car from Francisco motors ?
I went to Manila and Subic race circuit.
My friends Mike Potenciano who is owner of MP turbo tuning shop(it is his hobby) and racer ask me to visit Manila to install MOTEC to his racer car Honda.
If you need any information..let me know.
I already tuned Elantra 1.6 Beta for Race car 4 years ago.
Did you buy your car from Francisco motors ?
I went to Manila and Subic race circuit.
My friends Mike Potenciano who is owner of MP turbo tuning shop(it is his hobby) and racer ask me to visit Manila to install MOTEC to his racer car Honda.
If you need any information..let me know.
NO SHYT???? You tuned the MP Turbo Elantras??? What did you do to them?
So, did he turbocharge a black Elantra? Did you do the tuning to that car?
I bought my first Elantra from an authorized dealer of Fransisco Motors. My other Elantra was bought from Francisco Motors.
Oh yeah, got a website? smile.gif
[ December 31, 2002, 01:09 AM: Message edited by: lantraluvr ]
So, did he turbocharge a black Elantra? Did you do the tuning to that car?
I bought my first Elantra from an authorized dealer of Fransisco Motors. My other Elantra was bought from Francisco Motors.
Oh yeah, got a website? smile.gif
[ December 31, 2002, 01:09 AM: Message edited by: lantraluvr ]
race-real will reply once every night in this forum. He is out for party, and you know why.
The website is availabe, but I have not translate due to holidays...I want to play.
The website is www.race-real.com, and I expect to be done by this January 2003. RACE ENGINEERING AUTOMOTIVE LAB smile.gif HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE smile.gif
[ December 31, 2002, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: 2race4REAL ]
The website is availabe, but I have not translate due to holidays...I want to play.
The website is www.race-real.com, and I expect to be done by this January 2003. RACE ENGINEERING AUTOMOTIVE LAB smile.gif HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE smile.gif
[ December 31, 2002, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: 2race4REAL ]
Hi..
I didn't go to party tonight.
It is nothing good place to play like Korea.
I want to come back to Korea..
Do you know MP Turbo and Francisco motors ?
The MP turbo owner Mike is my friends.
I managed their race car elantra 3 years ago.
At that time I went to there every 3 months.
I was very surprised at Dec 31 night fireworks party.
It is very nice.
I don't know the tuebo car is black or white.
Because I just send reprogrammed ECU and as follows
Turbo engine spec as follows
1) 2 bar map sensor (GM)
nowdays I use 2.5 bar MAP sensor to use 1.5bar
boost
2) 550cc injector
Base is 550cc but you can use 500 - 700 cc
3) T28 - T3 grade Turbine
Any turbine... ok.
4) Ex mani
Everybody can make it.
we also made casting one.
5) Intercooler
Bigger is better
6) Pipe kit
Everybody can make.
But here is many secrect to improve power.
7) reprogrammed ECU
We use stock Siemens 55pin ECU for Turbo car
It is perfect..
8) comp ratio change
* 8.5:1 Piston
it is best choice
* 2mm gaskett
it not so bad..but max boost is 0.8bar
* head modify
you can see this kind of head in my website.
Originally..chamber modify is need for
improving Exhaust gass fluidity.
But it also change comp ratio
My website head is same as WRC Hyundai
Accent rally car.
of course camshart, valve, valve spring...
After install everything.
It needs custom mapping for best power and safety.
But..it is expensive...
So I asvised him to change fuel press to adjust A/F.
In my experience..it is good enought to drive.
I didn't go to party tonight.
It is nothing good place to play like Korea.
I want to come back to Korea..
Do you know MP Turbo and Francisco motors ?
The MP turbo owner Mike is my friends.
I managed their race car elantra 3 years ago.
At that time I went to there every 3 months.
I was very surprised at Dec 31 night fireworks party.
It is very nice.
I don't know the tuebo car is black or white.
Because I just send reprogrammed ECU and as follows
Turbo engine spec as follows
1) 2 bar map sensor (GM)
nowdays I use 2.5 bar MAP sensor to use 1.5bar
boost
2) 550cc injector
Base is 550cc but you can use 500 - 700 cc
3) T28 - T3 grade Turbine
Any turbine... ok.
4) Ex mani
Everybody can make it.
we also made casting one.
5) Intercooler
Bigger is better
6) Pipe kit
Everybody can make.
But here is many secrect to improve power.
7) reprogrammed ECU
We use stock Siemens 55pin ECU for Turbo car
It is perfect..
8) comp ratio change
* 8.5:1 Piston
it is best choice
* 2mm gaskett
it not so bad..but max boost is 0.8bar
* head modify
you can see this kind of head in my website.
Originally..chamber modify is need for
improving Exhaust gass fluidity.
But it also change comp ratio
My website head is same as WRC Hyundai
Accent rally car.
of course camshart, valve, valve spring...
After install everything.
It needs custom mapping for best power and safety.
But..it is expensive...
So I asvised him to change fuel press to adjust A/F.
In my experience..it is good enought to drive.



