ARK Fr. Strut Bar
I flipped it over and took a few pics with my camera phone. Definatly flat on both sides. (it is upsidown (side note: how to spell this word???) in picture)



Sorry if the pics are a lil big. Actually suprised how good they turned out with the phone's camera. Not bad resolution.. Anyways, redz was saying something about if the bracket looks like [ i will have problems, do they look ok???



Sorry if the pics are a lil big. Actually suprised how good they turned out with the phone's camera. Not bad resolution.. Anyways, redz was saying something about if the bracket looks like [ i will have problems, do they look ok???
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I flipped it over and took a few pics with my camera phone
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And JamemX, I think REDZ meant if the bar were like ], then you have problems, all the brackets are like that.
I was suspecting that the bar was like a "3" (or an M) depending on how you looked at it. But looks like a normal bar.
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Dude, that bar is really that thin?
Do me a favor and put it right side up, and sit on a chair next to it. Put some pressure on it with your feet in the middle, see if it bends.
Also, those brackets look HORRIBLE. Look how thin they are, and bent.
The Motiera brackets are like 1/4 inch thick. THICK.
Do me a favor and put it right side up, and sit on a chair next to it. Put some pressure on it with your feet in the middle, see if it bends.
Also, those brackets look HORRIBLE. Look how thin they are, and bent.
The Motiera brackets are like 1/4 inch thick. THICK.
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Dude, that bar is really that thin?
Do me a favor and put it right side up, and sit on a chair next to it. Put some pressure on it with your feet in the middle, see if it bends.
Also, those brackets look HORRIBLE. Look how thin they are, and bent.
The Motiera brackets are like 1/4 inch thick. THICK.
Do me a favor and put it right side up, and sit on a chair next to it. Put some pressure on it with your feet in the middle, see if it bends.
Also, those brackets look HORRIBLE. Look how thin they are, and bent.
The Motiera brackets are like 1/4 inch thick. THICK.
yah good idea, but after you do that take a pic of the side and if you can, measure it. it looks like maybe 1/8 of an inch from the pic but i cant really tell
hey to clarify two things...our products have been quality...if you don't like it, please call our office. we can help resolve any questions
number two
the plexiglass. do NOT blame that on ark, or anything i've promised. if you see what i typed before, i expressly said this was not something of ark's, but from another source. if you look at NT, the person doing this is chaotix, but his machine has been broken. because of that, i can not update. once he gives me an update, i'll update. but this is NOT something that ark has done. i'm sorry that it got construed as an ark product...
i'm not quite sure if ours bends, i will ask ted in teh morning tomorrow and i'll update you guys.
for those who see this edit, i removed wat i typed...completely stupid and useless...my bad wink1.gif
number two
the plexiglass. do NOT blame that on ark, or anything i've promised. if you see what i typed before, i expressly said this was not something of ark's, but from another source. if you look at NT, the person doing this is chaotix, but his machine has been broken. because of that, i can not update. once he gives me an update, i'll update. but this is NOT something that ark has done. i'm sorry that it got construed as an ark product...
i'm not quite sure if ours bends, i will ask ted in teh morning tomorrow and i'll update you guys.
for those who see this edit, i removed wat i typed...completely stupid and useless...my bad wink1.gif
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hey to clarify two things...our products have been quality...if you don't like it, please call our office. we can help resolve any questions
great
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number two
the plexiglass. do NOT blame that on ark, or anything i've promised. if you see what i typed before, i expressly said this was not something of ark's, but from another source. if you look at NT, the person doing this is chaotix, but his machine has been broken. because of that, i can not update. once he gives me an update, i'll update. but this is NOT something that ark has done. i'm sorry that it got construed as an ark product...
the plexiglass. do NOT blame that on ark, or anything i've promised. if you see what i typed before, i expressly said this was not something of ark's, but from another source. if you look at NT, the person doing this is chaotix, but his machine has been broken. because of that, i can not update. once he gives me an update, i'll update. but this is NOT something that ark has done. i'm sorry that it got construed as an ark product...
then you should have updated them to tell them its going to be delayed.. it worries people when it doesnt get updated in a while, some may even lose interest, good to see you finally have done this
i'm sorry, i forgot to update that thread. i could've sworn i did, but i guess i didn't.. that was unexcusable.
on a side note, please install the strut bar and do watever tests you wish to do with it, and tell me what YOUR feelings are, not what others have told you.
on a side note, please install the strut bar and do watever tests you wish to do with it, and tell me what YOUR feelings are, not what others have told you.
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what does bracekt thickness have to do with anything? bracket thickness does not have to do with function of the bar
What does bracket thickness have to do with the function of the bar??
"Simple Physics" would tell you that ALL of the stress put on the bar gets transfered TO THE BRACKETS. So it has EVERYTHING to do with how the bar performs.
I'll give you three examples :
1.) Thin fairly flimsy BAR, with Beefy BRACKETS. Better than #2.
2.) Larger, stronger, better designed BAR with Flimsy BRACKETS. What happens when load is put on the bar?? its transferred to the brackets. Flimsy brackets then break or deform, thereby lowering the already low performance of the system.
3.) Larger, Stronger BAR, maybe even a better design thats LIGHTER (w/o loosing stiffness) and beefy BRACKETS. Ideal. Brackets transfer load to the bar, with out flexing it, and then those loads are transferred BACK to the brackets, again w/o ANY deformation.



