OK, I am sorry to tell you, but unless the shop took out the engine, theres now way they could have TRULY calculated your engine hp. Engine hp (bhp) is measured at the flywheel, not the wheels. Unless your dyno shop guys were genius’s and knew what the exact drivetrain losses your car experiences, the power can be +- like 10hp or so.



The dryer vent and filter were installed by professional tuners? So, cuz professional tuners ran a dryer vent through your engine bay makes it awesome?



Can’t compare with a CAI? So your saying this is not a CAI, it’s a ‘dynamic induction system’. What type of ricer lingo is that? I haven’t heard of that yet. Theres nothing special about that induction system.. it’s a WAI (warm air intake) with a duct on it. So its like a half and half system with a heat shield on it.



Im not saying this thing doesn’t work better than stock, or almost like a CAI, but im just saying theres almost NO way you got a TRUE 20hp from this Frankenstein intake system.

 

Well, it's the corrected engine power, call it whatever you want, it's the same hp that any car manufacturer states a given car has. Dunno what type of hp u call it...dyno measures whp and it converts it to that hp...they have database with vehicle specs. Dunno how it actually works, but it is reliable, it's a Rotronics!

The car is supposed to have 136cv stock, it only gave 123,7cv...blame the dirty air filter, 95 octane gasoline, whatever! With the Viper and TB coolant bypass it gave 145,7 cv. If u only consider the gains better from those supposed 136, then it's just 10cv.

No, it's not like a CAI...ever heard of BMC CDA? That works like the Viper

Anyway, if you want to know how it really works, go to www.pipercross.net

SOCKS, I was looking at some pics of your car...why did u get rid of CF in your dash? Looked sweet cool.gif

 

well, the dyno shop that did your car was wrong.. plain and simple.. you didn't get 20hp BHP OR WHP from that ricer intake.

i went to that site.. basically its a bunch of claims.. that intake IS nothing special.. its basically a universal ricer intake. IT DOES work JUST like ANY intake sytem out there.. it just has a closed airbox (like stock) and a dryer hose connected to it to get a bit cooler air through the crappy flow. lmao.gif im sorry, i don't know who talked you into getting this intake for 3x the price of an AEM, and made this intake sound like something special, but its not anywhere close to something special. nana.gif

i took the CF out of my car cuz i got bored of it, im going a diff direction with my car now.

 

Well, unless I can test an AEM CAI on my car, I can't know for sure which one is best. You never even seen a Viper working so you can't say it's not good.
I guess there's no point arguing, cause there's no way you or I can say that A is better than B...without testing both systems on the same car!
I'm quite happy with the Viper, engine acceleration has improved quite a bit!
I like it, period!

 

thats fine that you like it, im just telling you the facts.. like i said. im sure its WAY better than stock, and better than a WAI, but theres no way its better than the AEM CAI.. its purley simple.

look at the design of the AEM.. look at the design of the viper ricerific intake..

what you mean i haven't seen a viper intake.. i see it on your car.

again, im not arguing, im just telling you simple facts. A) that intake system didn't give you 20hp B) its a waste of money if it was 3X price of AEM C) its design is BUNK compared to the AEM.

 

I mean live, working, driven a car with a Viper!
That's my point, you're making your judgement cause you know AEM is great and you think it's the best! You can't know that for sure unless you see the difs in the same car...I'm not saying Viper is better than AEM cause I don't have all the facts, if I got more power with AEM, then it's better, if not it's worse!
So you're saying that the coolant bypass gives like 0hp? For as little hp it gives, it has to be like 2-3hp. Like I said, my stock power was way lower than I expected...if that dirty filter was robbing some 4-5hp, then it's not 20hp that I gain, is it?

 

dude, just think for a second, your claiming a 20 hp gain. Their website only claims 10 bhp.

and btw, I just looked and that intake is $300 not quite 3x the aem...

I understand your proud of your new modification but that doesn't mean it's the best.

 

ok, n00b, ill just stop.. if you don't wanna take good information cuz you think your viper intake is the god of intakes, and that a TB bypas mod gives you 2-3 hp thats fine..

the TB bypass mod probably 'gives' the equivalent of like .5-1hp MAX, if any. lmao.gif

you think that the viper intake gave you 20hp because of some dyno that wasn't obviously working properly..

so, i can understand where you are coming from, but i am just trying to lead you in the right direction.

and you see, i CAN judge and tell which intake is better, just by looking at them. if you can't tell, then obviously you don't know much about simple airflow, restriction, or a good design of an intake.

supposedly, according to that dyno, you had one dyno with the viper 'ricer' intake, and one with it off, unless the stock power was just 'assumed' like your shop 'assumed' what the engine power was.

im not trying to burst your bubble or anything, im just telling you how it is.

just curious, how much did you pay for that dryer intake? and how much does AEM cost in your currency.

wow, i just read supercow's post.. lmao.gif you spend 300$ on an air filter in a pretty CF box, with a DRYER vent.. lmao.gif lmao.gif lmao.gif owned.gif the AEM is half the price, a better design, and looks liek 10X the quality.

the only thing worth money on that intake is the CF air box, which should be behind foglight with ducting, not in engine bay

 

Did I ever say it was the best?
Those 10hp are from a citroen 1.6!
Well, I'll just have to do another dyno someplace else. I'll wait till I get the OBX underdrive crank pulley and then I'll post it here ok?

Viper costs 375€, that's 552,7$

 

HAHAHAHAH.. even better.. you paid equivalent to 552$ USD for that thing and less power.. owned.gif owned.gif lmao.gif lmao.gif

i bet your dyno says you get like 23hp just from that pulley.....

AEM CAI >> viper 'ricer' intake (that means AEM is better than viper intake)

AEM CAI gives the car about 9whp. even if your ricer intake got the SAME power as an AEM it would be a gain of ~11BHP max. taking into consideration the flow being worse, yet still getting cold air, i would say it would get a bit less than the AEM, more like 6-7whp and like ~9-10bhp..


i know i said id stop, but this is getting too funny. we got a n00b thats bragging he spent an equivalent of 550$ on a half ass CAI