S-AFC vs SMT-6
01-21-2005, 01:27 PM
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so, how hard would it be to tune SMT6 VS SAFC? I know you need a laptop, not a problem. But what about fuel and ignition maps?
Someone mentioned that there is low and high settings, which are easy and then there is the mid settings which would also have to be tuned by a user, unline SAFC that just makes a guess in that part.
Someone mentioned that there is low and high settings, which are easy and then there is the mid settings which would also have to be tuned by a user, unline SAFC that just makes a guess in that part.
01-21-2005, 03:42 PM
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http://www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp
Here is the write up off Perfect Power's website. I have been debating on the unit to use, and after reading this thread I'm kinda leaning toward the SMT-6. As far as I know when you buy this unit, the programs are mostly free are they not?? That, at least is what I have read on that site I posted and here on RD. I'm still on the fence though. I like the better tunability and the full ability the basic SMT-6 unit offers VS the Emanage and having to buy everything else.
Here is the write up off Perfect Power's website. I have been debating on the unit to use, and after reading this thread I'm kinda leaning toward the SMT-6. As far as I know when you buy this unit, the programs are mostly free are they not?? That, at least is what I have read on that site I posted and here on RD. I'm still on the fence though. I like the better tunability and the full ability the basic SMT-6 unit offers VS the Emanage and having to buy everything else.
01-21-2005, 04:58 PM
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Okay, so tell me this.
Why WOULDN'T I buy the SMT6? What would be reasons to stay away?
Why WOULDN'T I buy the SMT6? What would be reasons to stay away?
01-21-2005, 05:07 PM
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Well... its not very purty. tongue.gif C'mon Redz, your a ricer at heart. smile.gif
If anyone could get it, and tell us how effective it is... I'm sure most dyno shops would be able to make use of it. Things like the ignition you really can't get on the road and "do it yourself" like you can with fueling with the S-AFC.
Only question I have, does it have a knock sensor? S-AFC will tell you if your getting detonation, letting you start rich and slowly tune down the fuel by yourself until you get slight engine knock, and therefor tune it yourself if you wanted to. Of course a wideband o2 along with the SMT-6 would solve this little problem either way.
If anyone could get it, and tell us how effective it is... I'm sure most dyno shops would be able to make use of it. Things like the ignition you really can't get on the road and "do it yourself" like you can with fueling with the S-AFC.
Only question I have, does it have a knock sensor? S-AFC will tell you if your getting detonation, letting you start rich and slowly tune down the fuel by yourself until you get slight engine knock, and therefor tune it yourself if you wanted to. Of course a wideband o2 along with the SMT-6 would solve this little problem either way.
01-21-2005, 08:45 PM
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on the SMT6 you can run 2 "files" you can switch from 1 file to the other with a simple switch (IE you 2 stage boost controler switch... stage1 file 1 on the smt, stage 2 (high boost) file 2 on the SMT
so when all your programming is done it' easy to switch,but most of the time only one good map is needed
Redz,
i've heard of some cars (not hyundai) converted from MAF to MAP
i might give it a try once i'll put the turbo on it
the other way you can do it...
clamp the MAF signal to lets say 4.9 volts so the ECU won't see that you're "overflowing" the MAF and use extra injectors (either 4 or 2)
on the SMT6 you can run 2 "files" you can switch from 1 file to the other with a simple switch (IE you 2 stage boost controler switch... stage1 file 1 on the smt, stage 2 (high boost) file 2 on the SMT
so when all your programming is done it' easy to switch,but most of the time only one good map is needed
Redz,
i've heard of some cars (not hyundai) converted from MAF to MAP
i might give it a try once i'll put the turbo on it
the other way you can do it...
clamp the MAF signal to lets say 4.9 volts so the ECU won't see that you're "overflowing" the MAF and use extra injectors (either 4 or 2)
01-21-2005, 09:29 PM
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just my 2 cents i would have gone with the smt-5 just due to the fact we have used them in are shop before and easy to use, i havent had the chance to see the smt-6 at all im sure it is just as good, but after a while i figure screw it im not messing with piggybacks, i went ahead and picked up a PRS-8 stand-alone is much better and pick them up cheaper than haltech's. Perfect Power has very good product's everyone i know that has them is very happy with them i tell everyone here just try them for yourself. you'll be happy u did .
01-21-2005, 10:34 PM
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Okay, but using what you are using, what about ODBII?
Soon, in the next few years, that will be MANDATORY nationwide.
Soon, in the next few years, that will be MANDATORY nationwide.
01-21-2005, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (Denisst99)
tibiette
on the SMT6 you can run 2 "files" you can switch from 1 file to the other with a simple switch (IE you 2 stage boost controler switch... stage1 file 1 on the smt, stage 2 (high boost) file 2 on the SMT
so when all your programming is done it' easy to switch,but most of the time only one good map is needed
Redz,
i've heard of some cars (not hyundai) converted from MAF to MAP
i might give it a try once i'll put the turbo on it
the other way you can do it...
clamp the MAF signal to lets say 4.9 volts so the ECU won't see that you're "overflowing" the MAF and use extra injectors (either 4 or 2)
on the SMT6 you can run 2 "files" you can switch from 1 file to the other with a simple switch (IE you 2 stage boost controler switch... stage1 file 1 on the smt, stage 2 (high boost) file 2 on the SMT
so when all your programming is done it' easy to switch,but most of the time only one good map is needed
Redz,
i've heard of some cars (not hyundai) converted from MAF to MAP
i might give it a try once i'll put the turbo on it
the other way you can do it...
clamp the MAF signal to lets say 4.9 volts so the ECU won't see that you're "overflowing" the MAF and use extra injectors (either 4 or 2)
hey thanks for the info.. thats what i wanted to know. because as long as i can save at least 2 settings (low boost and high) and then swtich between them with a flick of a switch without using a laptop then that is perfect..