Mituibishi Td04 Turbo
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They are the names of the different types of tdoXh turbos. X being a number in your case being 4, they have 5, 6 etc.
The straight answer is that the 14b is smaller and has a smaller efficiency range (less boost) than the 16G.
Here's the long answer.
The straight answer is that the 14b is smaller and has a smaller efficiency range (less boost) than the 16G.
Here's the long answer.
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Turbo Related Questions
* How many different variations are there?
The following is a list of specs on the Mitsubishi Turbos. Some are old parts no longer available.
TDO4-9B-6CM2 265 CFM
TDO5H-14G-8CM2 465 CFM
TDO5-12A-8CM2 320 CFM
TDO4-13G-5CM2 360 CFM
TEO4-13C-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-13G-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-15C-8.5CM2 390 CFM
TDO5H-14B-6CM2 405 CFM
TDO5H-16G-7CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-16G-10CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-BIG16G-7CM 550 cfm
TDO6-17C-8CM2 550 CFM
TDO6H-20G-14CM2 650 CFM
TDO7S-25G-17CM2 850 CFM
TFO8L-30V-18CM2 1200 CFM
The above specs are measured at 15psi compressor air flow. I didn't get into turbine flow or actuator settings because of the detail and length of explanation.
* What is the maximum output from the various turbos?
Max output from various turbos
TD05-14B (stock 1st gen) 275-300hp @ 21 psi
TD05-16G (small) 345-365hp @ 22 psi
TD06-16G (large) 365-385hp @ 22 psi
TD06-20G 430-450hp @ 22 psi
T25 (stock 2nd gen) 235-250hp @ ?? psi
T3 (super 60)/T2.5 hybrid 265-280hp @ ?? psi
T3 (super 60)/T2.8 hybrid 270-320hp @ ?? psi
* What is the meaning of 14B, 16G, 20G?
The turbo that is OEM on the 5-speed is a Mitsubisho TD05H with a 14B turbine wheel (on the compressor side) and another (I don't know the name/number) and a 060 housing. What the "16G" turbo has is several things. The 16G refers to the compressor wheel. What happens is there are several TD05 housings (compressor) which can accomodate different wheel sizes. There are also two (!) 16G wheels, a large and small. The large 16G was shipped until around Jan 95 and the small 16G have been around for some time. Most likely the 16G you will find will be the small 16G (although the 7cm housing is still readily available).
The other difference is that the turbo has a larger exhaust side housing, hence the 070 or 7 centimeter housing. The wheel in the exhaust side is the same but it is clipped.
Another option is the 20G wheel, but a true 20G wheel will ONLY fit into a TD06 housing, no matter what anyone says as the wheel is physically too large to fit into a TD05 housing (I know because I have a TD06 compressor in my car and the wheel is REALLY big). The hybrid 20G most DSMs run is a 7cm 16G turbo with a 20G compressor wheel and housing.
But in Mitsubishi terms, the larger the number in the 13G, 16G, etc line the larger the compressor wheel and hence more air can be moved. So which turbo has the 16G wheel? The standard upgrade/heavy industry/Stage I, etc are all the same and is the next step up to the stock turbo, and offers a really nice unit for the price as other options can become costly.
* How many different variations are there?
The following is a list of specs on the Mitsubishi Turbos. Some are old parts no longer available.
TDO4-9B-6CM2 265 CFM
TDO5H-14G-8CM2 465 CFM
TDO5-12A-8CM2 320 CFM
TDO4-13G-5CM2 360 CFM
TEO4-13C-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-13G-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-15C-8.5CM2 390 CFM
TDO5H-14B-6CM2 405 CFM
TDO5H-16G-7CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-16G-10CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-BIG16G-7CM 550 cfm
TDO6-17C-8CM2 550 CFM
TDO6H-20G-14CM2 650 CFM
TDO7S-25G-17CM2 850 CFM
TFO8L-30V-18CM2 1200 CFM
The above specs are measured at 15psi compressor air flow. I didn't get into turbine flow or actuator settings because of the detail and length of explanation.
* What is the maximum output from the various turbos?
Max output from various turbos
TD05-14B (stock 1st gen) 275-300hp @ 21 psi
TD05-16G (small) 345-365hp @ 22 psi
TD06-16G (large) 365-385hp @ 22 psi
TD06-20G 430-450hp @ 22 psi
T25 (stock 2nd gen) 235-250hp @ ?? psi
T3 (super 60)/T2.5 hybrid 265-280hp @ ?? psi
T3 (super 60)/T2.8 hybrid 270-320hp @ ?? psi
* What is the meaning of 14B, 16G, 20G?
The turbo that is OEM on the 5-speed is a Mitsubisho TD05H with a 14B turbine wheel (on the compressor side) and another (I don't know the name/number) and a 060 housing. What the "16G" turbo has is several things. The 16G refers to the compressor wheel. What happens is there are several TD05 housings (compressor) which can accomodate different wheel sizes. There are also two (!) 16G wheels, a large and small. The large 16G was shipped until around Jan 95 and the small 16G have been around for some time. Most likely the 16G you will find will be the small 16G (although the 7cm housing is still readily available).
The other difference is that the turbo has a larger exhaust side housing, hence the 070 or 7 centimeter housing. The wheel in the exhaust side is the same but it is clipped.
Another option is the 20G wheel, but a true 20G wheel will ONLY fit into a TD06 housing, no matter what anyone says as the wheel is physically too large to fit into a TD05 housing (I know because I have a TD06 compressor in my car and the wheel is REALLY big). The hybrid 20G most DSMs run is a 7cm 16G turbo with a 20G compressor wheel and housing.
But in Mitsubishi terms, the larger the number in the 13G, 16G, etc line the larger the compressor wheel and hence more air can be moved. So which turbo has the 16G wheel? The standard upgrade/heavy industry/Stage I, etc are all the same and is the next step up to the stock turbo, and offers a really nice unit for the price as other options can become costly.
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From: South Korea where u car from fool
Vehicle: 2008/Hyundai/Tiburon gt
how much are they chargeing you for this?? you must contact Sgt normbrock he is with the K-9 unit up there.. he can tell you all you need to know about REDSuns
BTW
turbo is very small ask them to how much it would be to run a IHI RX6 TCW77..
take a pic of the turbo
i just found out that your turbo is off of a truck called a mighty... your getting f***ed you will be at full boost at 3000 rpm that is a desial truck turbo
BTW
turbo is very small ask them to how much it would be to run a IHI RX6 TCW77..
take a pic of the turbo
i just found out that your turbo is off of a truck called a mighty... your getting f***ed you will be at full boost at 3000 rpm that is a desial truck turbo
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well seeming how its already put on and paid for, is there any good out of this turbo, i mean cause realistically they aint gonna change it, i cant really complain i only paid 2,000 up front still owe another 2,
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Vehicle: 2000 tiburon
my friend if you paid them 4k to not even get to pick your turbo then you are getting f***ed. i would get a lawyer as 2,000 dollars is alot of money and i wouldnt pay it to them unless they fixed this. that turbo isnt going to really do what you want it too.
maybe you should read maximum boost that way you will have more knowledge about your situation
maybe you should read maximum boost that way you will have more knowledge about your situation
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From: South Korea where u car from fool
Vehicle: 2008/Hyundai/Tiburon gt
for 4 grand for that that turbo is out of http://www.oknews.co.kr/okinsu/car/h...mighty2.shtml...
get your shit out of there now, i am in tajon at the supercar show we have a booth here maybe u should come and see..
get your shit out of there now, i am in tajon at the supercar show we have a booth here maybe u should come and see..
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oh yea im mad and embarassed because i thought i was telling u guys something good, thats the only thing bout being over here the language barrier, i know alot of korean but not fluently, anyway my wife is korean so i showed here the link, and we are going to go up there today and see what is really going on.