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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 05:59 AM
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If you move a cat, you've screwed yourself from being CARB legal. As OP said, the first cat must be of a similar type and in the same position. Leaving it will be in the way of the entire manifold... there are some kits for more tuned cars (Civics, etc.) that have CARB legal turbo kits (I think...) but there aren't any for the Tib.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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but my KDM has no cat on the manifold. Will it be legal in Cali?
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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Ok... My stock injectors only handle 7PSI... 8 PSI with a very very good Piggyback configuration.... don't push over that because you will be very LEAN....
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (Dmitry @ Oct 18 2005, 09:33 AM)
but my KDM has no cat on the manifold. Will it be legal in Cali?


Nope. They make special cars for CA. With extra cats and so on...
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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QUOTE (mb1604 @ Oct 17 2005, 07:09 PM)
most people say 8 psi is pretty safe for stock internals. one guy did 17psi but i wouldnt risk it lol


i think around 7-8 psi sounds good for starts

QUOTE (Mad_john @ Oct 17 2005, 07:25 PM)
1. you change you rods to 1.8L stock rods
2. due to the shorter stroke you can boost more "safely" IMO
3. they will hole to 1.5 bar or 21 psi
this is not bullshit it has been tested and i am the one who tested it, this is what my car ran on till i got my rods and pistions from crower.


my car has the 1.8 engine in it is that good?

QUOTE (OdessitPashka @ Oct 17 2005, 07:44 PM)
First of all, you will not be able to keep cats in stock positions. Turbo manifold will replace your 1st cat.
Stock compression is 10.5:1 I think. Or something similar.

Stock crank should be good for a good bit. Don't worry about it.

I wouldn't take stock pistons above 220whp, which could mean different amount of boost on different turbos. Rods are probably good for up to 300whp.


even if i cant keep this CARB legal do u think every two years i can take this turbo off and put stock exhaust manifold and pass?

QUOTE (hamhead @ Oct 17 2005, 07:54 PM)
10.3:1 stock compression fing02.gif

You can boost your engine to your 200whp goal safely, with stock fueling and stock internals. ~8PSI on most turbos that you would use on that goal (T3 Super 60, T3, etc.).

Above that, the higher compression and weaker internals come into play.

As for CARB legal, not happening.


10.3:1 now im not sure but to run 7-8 psi i will need to drop my compression to around 8? or i will have to run 100 octane?


i know i will need a turbo, manifold, blow off valve, wastegate, and intercooler also piping. what else will i need?
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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It would be slightly involved, but I guess five hours or so to take off some stuff every two years isn't bad to pass inspection.

10.3:1 is high, but you can still run 8PSI on 93 octane with it.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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what Ham said.

You will need couplers, boost gauge, something to raise the fuel pressure up. Read the damn book! lol or just look at the parts that come with different turbo kits.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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You should edit this subject to be more descriptive.


The ONLY way you will get a CARB legal turbo kit is to use an "axle back" turbo.

They mount the turbo UNDER the car, usually where the muffler is now. It retains all the current emissions equipment, you're just adding forced induction.

Your snowballs chance in hell option is to beg, beg, beg Alpine Developments to submit their turbo kit for testing with CARB to see if it will pass.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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im pretty sure u have only one cat.. aka Rev'A..
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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i was told that if i did a rear mounted turbo that i would burn up my turbo because of the cat being soo close to the turbo is this true?
how would i mount it if i did do a rear mount and how would i get oil to the turbo?
would i still need a intercooler with it? the turbo would be farther back and the piping would have cool air on it more then if it was under the hood.

also wouldn't i have to slide under my car or jack it up to tune the wastegate if i was to put it in the rear?

i don't think alpine would pay that much to be able to sell a few kits in cali



rd1tib: we have 2 cats 1 small cat under the exhaust manifold and another big cat after the second 02 senser.

MOD: please edit topic description to california carb turbo.
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