Finally will boost my Tib
 

So finally I'm 100% confident to boost my Tib ! The car went through a lot ... basic n/a mods, wet nitrous, ITBs and as most of you told me I'm not happy with the results ;)

This time I will not do stupid sh*t. For a start I read a lot of boosted topics. I want something around 300-350bhp for the moment, but I will get there step by step. Don't want to rush anything and take my time do it right the first time.



Wanted to buy TD05 turbo from Mitsu Evo , but found some that are not in good condition. Found Holset twin scroll in very good condition , but I think its very big for me. 64mm (2.52 inch cold side and 80mm (3.15 inch ) hot side. I think this one is good for 500+ hp and will be very laggy for me. The bad news for me are that the price is perfect and the condtion also. https://www.olx.bg/ad/turbo-holset-holset-ID6Choz.html

A friend of mine is selling chinese turbos and is in the 11s with one of them for 2-3 years now. These are the once : https://www.olx.bg/ad/prodavam-novi-...i-ID6G9gP.html



Heard some of you are using stock exhaust manifold. I have the stock one and also the one from 1.8 elantra. I might use the one from elantra.



Injectors - 440cc might not be enough for 350... any suggestions ?!



Map sensor?



I have SMT-8 already installed in the car and I will use it to tune my setup.



Brand new XG brakes with 17s Toyo R888 tires.



Exhaust is stainless 2.5inch custom made.



Clutch - I had ceramic 6 puck , but got rid of it when my flywheel got f*cked up. A friend of mine who is working on 500+ whp cars told me that he can make very strong pressure plate from a stock pressure plate and from the ceramic one. Basically he will make one from both of them. What do you think bout that ?



For now I don't want to open the motor and as I read here it is the best solution for my case . -

"I've been boosting for 6 years and have used a decompression plate, 1.8 rods and pistons, 2.0 rods and pistons, and now forged internals. I've been around the block a few times and suggest that you leave the block the way it is, get a good tuner and boost away. If you decide in the future or mid build that this is no longer the route for you then at least you aren't switching internals again.

This post has been edited by slow 2K2GT: 27 August 2013 - 03:44 PM"



I will start to buy the parts one by one when I sure about the setup. Don't want to buy and sell parts.



Thank you in advance ;)

listen here f*ck face and listen well.



you only want to do this once so pay attention.



READ MY GODDAM GROCERY LIST



https://www.hyundaiaftermarket.org/f...-grocery-list/



It's a bit dated but none the less the components are still there.



1. READ AND LEARN AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN BEFORE YOU BUY A SINGLE COMPONENT. ASK QUESTIONS. RESEARCH. THE MORE YOU LEARN NOW THE LESS LIKELY YOU WILL BLOW SOMETHING UP OR DO SOMETHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. START SAVING, BUY ALLLLLLLL THE TURBO COMPONENTS BEFORE YOU EVEN THINK OF INSTALLING ANYTHING.





2. Figure out what kind of racing and driving you want to do and build for that. trying to build an autocrossing drift drag racer will keep you from ever finishing the project. if i could go back i wish this was where i paid attention to the most. i tried to do too many things at once and it ended up sitting because of it. now i regret even spending the money. if i could go back i would buy the supporting mods first before i even started the turbo build. stuff like clutch, coilovers, sticky tires, maybe even a LSD. i bet i wouldve been happy with those mods and the nitrous. recognize you will be spending a ton of money on this.



HEED THIS ADVICE, there are better platforms out there to put money into. if you absolutely adore and love this vehicle, then by all means. However, realize it's a Hyundai which means if you arent happy, you will struggle to sell it. realize you will be fighting for traction because it's FWD. There are lighter, nimbler, better handling vehicles out there. some of which can be purchased for about the same amount of money you will put into this turbo kit. It's your money, do what makes you happy, but one day you might end up wishing you had better spent it on something else. realize this, every single one of the OMG SUPER HIGH HP TURBO folks either sold the car or ended up buying something else and have pushed the hyundai to the side. I had a SHO. JonGTR built a high hp nissan z. jaws, viper, madjohn, yamaha, socks and several others have sold/parted the car and moved on. there's a reason for this.





3. after reading steps 1 and 2, make a goal of 250whp and leave it there. dont f*ck it up and try to get 500hp right out the gate. dont push it any further than 250hp. that's a nice number for a stock motor. READ THIS, 250WHP. If you try and push it you run the risk of blowing up your motor and then youll have a very nice paperweight. get it to 250 and if you decide you need more, then you already have most of the sh*t there. do things in steps. 250whp is plenty for a fwd car. get to 250 and if that isnt enough power, get a LSD before you decide to up the boost.





4. luckily most of your sh*t is still useable. exhaust is fine, injectors are fine, hell even the ITBs are fine if they work(not sure if you boxed em in or not) dont piecemeal a clutch. dont cheap out on sh*t now or youll do it again. BUY THE ACT ORGANIC CLUTCH. IT WILL HOLD SOMETHING LIKE 350FT/LBS OF TORQUE.



5. no point in using a stock manifold and cutting it up to make the turbo work. Buy a turbo manifold. IIRC treadstone still makes a halfway decent one. GET SOMETHING WITH A T3 FLANGE. There are TONS of turbos out there with a t3 flange. if you end up wanting to upgrade at least you wont have to buy another manifold. if you know how to weld or know someone who knows how to weld, build your own. schedule 40 stainless isnt that expensive. all in im about $250 on a custom log manifold and i paid someone $100 to weld it.



6. want massive raw power? youll want a larger turbo. dont worry about lag. lag is traction. want a streetable car that spools pretty quickly? get a disco potato. dont know what a disco potato is? see item 1. Buy new or rebuild before you install on the car. turbo failures are expensive.



7. you had troubles tuning with NA, realize tuning turbos are 10x more complicated. trying to push it too hard too fast and youll melt stuff. see item 3.



good luck.

^^ lol^^ Faith keeping it real !!

Hey Faithy Gaythy I read you grocery list ... it's a sticky you stupid f*ck :D



Now joking aside! Thank you for your time and all the advices !!! As I said before you are that person that you want to punch in the face, but at the same time you are thankful , cause this same f*cker is the only one that is willing to help in a difficult times ;)



1. Agree 100% and I did that. More quetions coming.



2. I want to drive it almost everyday and probably some track days. Other than that maybe some rolling starts with friends. I did your XG brakes upgrade and I'm happy how the car stops. Bought Toyos R888 215/45/17.



3.I got you ! At the moment 250whp is good and as you said I can aim for 300+ after that. First lets get 250whp, get used to it and everything working nice after that I can think of big power.



4.I can say that I'm proud with myself, cause these ITBs are perfectly streetable and running good. When I found out that I won't be able to hit 200bhp without cams, head work and so on and diceded to sell the ITBs. Atleast I can help myself with the money from them to buy some turbo parts. I don't have 440cc injectors, was just asking if they will be fine for up to 350 Bhp. I have the stock once and 6 out 8 Suzuki GSXR injectors are running good. They are 320cc. I'm running four of the at the moment.



5. For the moment I still want to use the manifold from 1.8 Elantra. There is topic about using stock manifolds and one member ( forgot his name ) is using his stock one and said that he is happy with it after cracking 2-3 stainless turbo manifolds. I have a friend who can weld I he did my exhaust. I'm really happy with his work, but the price of custom manifold is almost double of that exhaust ?! We will see... I'm not 100% sure what to do.



That's the one that I want to use :



http://media.snimka.bg/s1/5922/038088055.jpg?r=0



6. So the most important point. You said to aim for 250whp so we are not gunning for "massive raw power" :D I agree that lag is traction, but I don't want some really laggy sh*t. I know what disqo tomatoo is ;)



I want you to tell me what do you think about that turbo ?



http://media.snimka.bg/s1/5922/038087910.jpg?r=0



http://media.snimka.bg/s1/5922/038087911.jpg?r=0



http://media.snimka.bg/s1/5922/038087912.jpg?r=0



This in cm and the turbo is roughly 20cm ( 7.9 inches ) The turbo is in great condition and I'm still thinking of rebuilding it. The problem is that I'm not sure I will be able to fit it !!! Also will it be too big for our 2.0 engines ? When will I hit boost... 4000rpm? 5000rpm ?



7. I'm learning very fast and I can tell you that to tune ITBs is as hard as tuning boosted car! I have a guy who can help me if I can't do it myself.



Thank you again!



p.s. Do you have facebook or you are too ugly to show your gay face ? :D

1. Agree 100% and I did that. More quetions coming.

your country sucks



2. I want to drive it almost everyday and probably some track days. Other than that maybe some rolling starts with friends. I did your XG brakes upgrade and I'm happy how the car stops. Bought Toyos R888 215/45/17.

great tires. i love em.



3.I got you ! At the moment 250whp is good and as you said I can aim for 300+ after that. First lets get 250whp, get used to it and everything working nice after that I can think of big power.

dont be your usual jackass self



4.I can say that I'm proud with myself, cause these ITBs are perfectly streetable and running good. When I found out that I won't be able to hit 200bhp without cams, head work and so on and diceded to sell the ITBs. Atleast I can help myself with the money from them to buy some turbo parts. I don't have 440cc injectors, was just asking if they will be fine for up to 350 Bhp. I have the stock once and 6 out 8 Suzuki GSXR injectors are running good. They are 320cc. I'm running four of the at the moment.

youll run out of injector before you even get 200hp with those 320ccs. pick up somethin around 440 (which will max out around 280whp) or if you want some minor futureproofing pick up some 550s. HIGH IMPEDANCE





5. For the moment I still want to use the manifold from 1.8 Elantra. There is topic about using stock manifolds and one member ( forgot his name ) is using his stock one and said that he is happy with it after cracking 2-3 stainless turbo manifolds. I have a friend who can weld I he did my exhaust. I'm really happy with his work, but the price of custom manifold is almost double of that exhaust ?! We will see... I'm not 100% sure what to do.



build your own like i did. i just had someone weld it all up for me. some bracing and you should be good to go.





6. So the most important point. You said to aim for 250whp so we are not gunning for "massive raw power" :D I agree that lag is traction, but I don't want some really laggy sh*t. I know what disqo tomatoo is ;)



I want you to tell me what do you think about that turbo ?



too big. that appears to be a h1c holset. that's even bigger than my holset and i dont even start to build boost until around 3200rpm. plus if it is a h1c that sh*t is 20 years old. not worth the rebuild.





7. I'm learning very fast and I can tell you that to tune ITBs is as hard as tuning boosted car! I have a guy who can help me if I can't do it myself.



you dont learn for sh*t or you wouldve listened to me in the first place.



p.s. Do you have facebook or you are too ugly to show your gay face ? :D

i dont have facebook. i dont want your mom to know that i aint loyal.

So I'll pass on that turbo... see I listen to you GayLord :D



Will talk to a guy today about Evo 8,9 manilofd and turbo. Hope I can get something good.



Found 440cc injectors , but I want 550cc.



Your idea about the manifold is good I might try that sh*t :)



My car is map based, but I have to buy 2-3bar map sensor.



Found intercooler at home... it's 35x30cm ( 13.8 x 11.8 inches ) Is it ok or shuold I buy bigger one?



I wanted to send you some private pics of my last vacation with your mom ;)

1) A used EVO 8/9 Manifold and Turbo is a good start. TibbyTib runs this and his car is FAAAAST. Just be prepared to do A LOT of modifications to get the manifold to bolt up to the Beta head.



2) The SMT8 isn't going to be enough to get the job done. You'll have to subtract a ton of MAP voltage to run 550cc injectors which will cause the stock ECU to freak out and trigger limp mode. Also the SMT8 can only control one aux injector which would be a bad idea. Get something like the AEM F/IC or go full standalone like a Haltech Elite 750 or 1000.



3) Listen to people who have been there done that. Cheap, Fast, Reliable, pick 2!! It sounds like your going for Cheap and Fast which means it WILL NOT BE RELIABLE!!

1. I am prepared, cause I saw some guys build topic. I'm 95% sure I will go that Evo 8 setup.



2. Talking to the Perfect power guys as we speak :) See what they will say.



3.Thats why I'm here and as I said I'm not going to f*ck it up. This thing cheap, fast, reliable is f*cking EVERYWHERE !!! Please tell me what of the things that I bought are cheap ? SMT8 brand new wasn't cheap at all. Brand new 215/45/17 R888 not even close ! Rims also not cheap. F2 Evo front bumper and spoiler. Brand new rotors, pads, wheel bearings and sh*t + XG dual pistons. New clutch, front splitter... custom exhaust... not to mention all the things involved to run these ITB properly. Most of the parts bought this spring.



Don't want to argue with you or somebody else. First of all I'm thankful that you even find time to help me and I know that to make this setup work I have to listen to people that have done that.



I don't want to be cheap, but if I can save money from some parts will be nice. The car is not my life if you know what I mean.



I've done stupid things to my car ... I know that... I know that a lot of people told me not to buy Apexi Neo and I still bought it ! Told me to boost my car and not to waste my time and money with ITBs ... we know what I did ! No more stupid sh*t !!!



Thanks to the forum I know what to do and if I have more question I hope you can help ;)

I have a Holset H1C on my beta with a 12cm exhaust housing and I'm in full boost by 4k. It also comes on strong.

Thanks Dave! That means a lot coming from you man!



I have a haltech E8 with plug and play connector to connect to the stock harness that needs a new home. :) Probably have my old base map floating around somewhere as well to at least get you started. Let me know if you're interested.

03tibe85 sorry brother , but get your facts right ! SMT8 can run TWO extra injectors ( 13 ohms ) Just saying...

tibbytib your ecu is different from mine. I saw a lot of guys using smt6 while boosting their Tibs so I hope SMT8 works even better...



SpoolinShark nice to hear, but the one that I can get is 20cm exhaust housing. Its f*cking huge. I think it will not spool before 5000rpm.

Well there are different SMT8 versions and only one has 2 Sub Injector outputs. Either way running 1 or 2 subinjectors is not the best way to go as your guaranteed to run a cylinder leaner than the others. For low boost it may be ok but I wouldn't trust it with the kind of power you want.



Also you will need some way to retard ignition timing and as far as I know Perfect Power wasn't ever able to get that function to work on a SMT8 and a Hyundai. Believe me I tried every wiring diagram they sent me for my GK Tib back in the day, and best I could do was get it working for 10 min before limp mode kicked in.



The SMT6 while older with limited functions, has been proven to drive 4 extra injectors which ensures you get correct fuel delivery to each cylinder. It has also shown to be able to retard ignition on the RD Tiburons.



Something else you may look into is the ECUMaster DET3. That can drive up to 6 sub injectors and can retard timing as well.



Either way you seem to think you know more than others that have been there and done that many times, some before you were even born! LMAO. So do as you wish and I hope not to see this turn into an EPIC FAIL thread. ;)

Yea, this is going south.



You're making the same old mistakes most people did 15yrs ago. You'd think with all that knowledge written here on the boards, one would pick up on them.





My recommendation would be to go straight to standalone for the timing issues Dave already mentioned. You may think it costs a lot more up front, but after you buy more injectors, custom rails/hoses, wiring, tuning issues, and a blown motor, it'll become MUCH cheaper in the end. You'll also get to take advantage of it's options like direct injection/ignition, maps, and different forms of traction control.

03tibe85 there is only one SMT8 ! We are not talking SMT8L or something else! The name is clear SMT8!!!

Yes it can control two extra injectors and YES it can retard timing !!! I've been there done that. I can make a video if you want to see how the engine reacts to ignition imputs. My ECU is MAP based and is nothing like the US one. I thought you know that ?!?

What if I batch wire them ? 1-4 and 2-3 ? Use the stock injectors as main rail and add the 320cc for the second rail. Tune the second rail for boost only. Please explain to me why it won't work that way.



I don't act like know all, but when I'm sure what do you want me say ?! I know for a fact that it can retard timing ( advance also ) and it can control 2 extra injectors. The best thing is that it has map for injector 1 and injector 2, but if want you can control them together. That's what I need.



I'm man enough to admit my mistakes, but can you please tell me who else manage to make his RD Tib streetable with ITBs? Before that the car had wet nitrous and now hopefully it will be boosted by the end of the summer.



The engine is in good condition, but I bought crankshaft bearings and I'm thinking of buying all the other needed parts to rebuild it. It's alwasy a good idea before going turbo.

As my best friend faith told me I will make the manifold myself and just give it to somebody to weld it ;)

On stock engine you can go up to 0,7bar of boost with 5’th injector and I pushed mine up to 1,35bar with dual rail and Wiseco turbo pistons on stock ignition.



You are doing everything custom so best is to use stock exhaust manifold and just make adapter so you can fit twinscrol turbo, done that years back and it works. It would be much easier if you would use “normal” turbo and not twinscrol so if you still have chance use normal turbo because that will make your life much easier!

90% of custom made exhaust manifold will brake so don’t even bother with that.



For 0,5-0,6bar you don’t have to do anything to ignition, you can leave it stock and everything will work perfectly, just do the fine tune of fuel and make a little richer mixture (10,5-10,8AFR)



For 5’th injector use largest injector you can get 500cc or more.



Guys don’t give you bed advices but I think that they don’t have any idea how hard and how expensive is to get any kind of preformance parts in Eastern Europe. It is like you wont to buy Kinder surprise egg in America :)

I won't get into an arguing match with you. I'm too old lol. I will just try to provide answers from now on.



1) If you did get the Ignition timing to work without causing limp mode then great for you! I was never able to in my years of dealing with perfect power. Maybe it's just an issue with the newer GK ECUs.



2) You cannot connect two high ohm injectors to one SMT8 output as it will fry that output. Maybe ask Perfect Power if you installed a resistor box could you connect 2 low ohm injectors to each output for a total of 4?



3) Maybe the older RD Intake manifolds were better at distributing fuel supplied by 1 injector to all four cylinders but the Beta 2 manifold was terrible and would cause lean conditions on cylinder 3.



4) To properly take advantage of a twin scroll turbo you need to have the proper manifold that pairs the proper cylinders for each turbine input. Slapping a twin scroll turbo on a hacked stock manifold is not the proper way to do it. Will it work? Yes. Will it be as good as a true twin scroll manifold? Nope.

^^mang did you see those issues with 250hp or double that? remember...baby steps. a stock IM with a 58mm throttle body will work just fine for a stock motor and low boost.







scrap the smt. get a FIC or standalone.



dont do the same sh*t we did.



i went from a SMT (uninstalled) to a FIC (installed) to a megasquirt (waiting for install)



i went from a supercharger (started install, scrapped project) to a small turbo (sold it) to a gigantic turbo (installed)



i went from a head spacer (uninstalled) to a set of tigerlilly cast (uninstalled) to wisecos (installed)



i went from a hks bov (installed) to a tial (installed)



i went through maybe 4 clutches



all that sh*t adds up man.

MaverickLC thank you a lot brother. I know they are not giving me bad avices otherwise I will not ask for anything. My problem is that they judge me too fast. I know something for a fact and they jump on me and act like I'm the bad guy :D



Let's make something clear as faith said I have to decide how many ponies I want so the aim is 250whp .



Last night I contacted a guy who is well known in my coutry about the exhaust manifold. He told me NOT to do it even though he will make good money from it! So what do you guys think I should do ? Use the stock mani with flange or buy the manifold from Evo 8 ? A lot of Evo guys are going back to the stock manifold for a daily drive. If I have to be honest I think that the one from 1.8 Elantra ( the one that I have on the car right now ) is the best, second place for Evo 8 and last one for the stoke one. The Evo 8 is good that I don't have to cut , weld and sh*t ! Only problem is to make it fit which I read is not big problem.



Can you clarify why not to use twin scroll ?



Here is what the guys from Perfect power sent me:

http://media.snimka.bg/s1/5925/038094193-big.jpg?r=0



http://media.snimka.bg/s1/5925/038094194-big.jpg?r=0



http://media.snimka.bg/s1/5925/038094195-big.jpg?r=0



They are pretty sure I can use 4 extra injectors...



I want to thank to all of you who are willing to help and I don't want to argue with nobody just assume that I can be right sometimes :)

Read up on what twin scroll actually is and how it works with a manifold. Then go look at how the stock manifold is built (even the EVO manifold). Then tell us your findings.

Hmm..well ok then. Give it a try! You'll need to either weld up a way to have the 4 extra injectors be on the manifold or get some sort of spacer plate to have the injectors in. Then you need to provide a fuel line to that extra fuel rail. After that it should work pretty well.



One of the problems of hacking up a stock manifold is getting the right flange welded properly on there. most OEM manifolds have a circular or weird shape outlet so you have to figure out a way to get a flange not that shape welded on so its level and doesn't leak or crack. If you go with a used EVO turbo that makes it even harder because the turbine inlet is way different than everything else out there.

03tibe85 You are absolutely right! It's pain in the ass to make 4 extra injectors not leak and work properly. I had this issue when I decided to use 320cc injectors from GSXR 1000.



http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/att...9-14.24.37.jpg



As a friend said we are lucky enough that we can use the Evo manifold. Found manifold , but it's hard to find turbo...



If I use 3 bar map sensor from vw tdi will it work ? I think it will do the job just fine.

already cheaping out on sh*t.



good luck.

Bought the manifold and will be here monday. Found turbo from Evo 8 with 10.5 hotside and will get it next week. Have to buy new IM and I might buy another fuel rail so I can start working on it.

2 03tibe85; You can’t do anything to ignition with SMT on GK. It is really just the question how much boost are you planning to push.

I have few GK’s and one Tucson that are driving DD for 10 years and over 150.000km on 0,5-0,7 bar boost and with 5’th injector setup with SMT and stock ignition.



I really understand you guys and why you don’t like this kind of setup but you really don’t understand how hard is to get parts here so I really admire blitz and his attempt to go turbo route because I know that he must do everything custom!



2 blitz; like I told before… on stock engine you can go safe up to 0,7 bar of boost. For that 5’th injector will do the work just fine and don’t bother with dual rail and 4 injectors.

I don’t say that 4 injectors won’t do better job, just saying that they don’t worth time you will spent in fabricating dual rail…

On 0,7bar you will see around 230HP

Thank you brother ;)



The manifold is here and in perfect condition. Bought new coil pack today and will grab 2 beers so I can install it quicker :)



Cheers madafakers !!!

Like I said, in a low boost setup it should be fine, but I wouldn't personally go above 0.5-0.7 bar for safety and make sure you using a BIG 5th injector with an awesome atomization pattern. To get even close to decent fuel distribution you need to really get that fuel mixed with the air. Also you really need to set up where the fuel sprays into the throttle body correctly otherwise you'll run lean.



FYI the EVO 8 wastegate is preset to 18psi so you will need to find a much lower wastegate to be able to run safely.

I thought it is 10-12 psi ?! Will see if I have to I will get the right wastegate ;)



I will do the 4 extra injectors setup. I want each cylinder to get the right amount of fuel and if I decide to increase the boost I will be good to go.



Will run the stock once as main rail and use 320cc from GSXR ( 4 holes not 2 like stock ) for the second rail. I believe they will atomise the fuel better. I have to buy another stock rail with fuel regulator.



A lot of stuff to do , but I'm more than happy to work on the car :)

Its possible to run the stock EVO 8 18psi on a stock block but I wouldn't do it unless you run E85 and your tune is perfect. Otherwise stay below 15psi and watch your AFRs like a hawk. I would put the wideband O2 sensor before the turbo to make sure you have accurate readings. Its fine to put the OEM O2 sensor after the turbo. I also suggest a new higher capacity fuel pump and a rising rate pressure regulator to make sure you have adequate flow to all 8 injectors under boost.

Last I checked, Sharkracing and most online korean parts places will ship worldwide. So does Ebay. So why can't he get a Maintec turbo manifold shipped to him?



Haltech has an Authorized Dealer in Greece, 250 miles away from him. So why can't he drive over there and pick up an Elite ECU? They have cheaper ECU's as well.



Or, buy my Haltech E6k if he's on a budget that will fully control timing and allow for FOUR large injectors. I ran 750's on it. It's an older ECU, but it's cheap as sh*t and will run 10x's BETTER than what he's planning.





I'm not going to pretend to know your country politics, but unless you've got a Nazi blockade at your borders, then you don't have an excuse. This is just him going cheap on everything. And we know how that turns out.

03tibe85 We don't get E85... sad , but true ! I have fuel pump from eclipse turbo which if I'm not mistaken is good for up to 250whp. Definiely have to get wideband.



Thanks for the help brother really appreciate it !!!

see. thats what we are talking about.



you are just buying sh*t without even properly researching before because it's cheap. spend the goddam 5 f*cking seconds to figure out what will actually work before you start tossing sh*t into a pile.



keep goin at this route and someone in your piece of sh*t country is gonna be able to get a tib with a blown motor for super cheap.



"good for 250hp" :biggrin:

ex. Eclipse GSX fuel pump (good for up to ~250whp) - that's what you wrote f*ck face ! Weren't you the one that told me to check your turbo parts list ?! I hope you are just f*cking around... your mom told me that you are so stupid that your project wasn't finished for about 10 years :D



This cheap thing is getting funny as f*ck :D If I'm cheap I would buy cheap ass chinese turbo and manifold. Evo 8.5 turbo is 300 euro and the chinese sh*t is 150 brand new!

The same with manifold and so on.



Please don't tell me to buy DOS based ECU just cause some "know all" f*cker is selling it.



I did my research and I have people that done this who are willing to help. Even if I f*ck it up I will start all over again, I don't give a f*ck! I promise you the car will be boosted and running by the end of the summer.



Don't want to waste your time anymore just tell me what you don't like about the Evo setup ?

Few years back I had Coupe GK 2.7V6 and I wanted to put supercharger on it… base kit was 2500USD if I remember and shipping was 600USD and when that package arrives at our customs service they charge you 15% of customs tax and then 25% of regular tax and around 1% of their handling fee.



So that supercharger would cost me 4500USD what was price of Assasian kit of that time.



I was looking to take your Haltech but It would cost me 2x the price you want for it… but would love to have it :)

Alpine had a good kit for the V6 and they had distributors all over the world. Did you look for them? You could always start with their kit, then add to it with custom parts.



Like I said, you could also take a beautiful drive to Greece, or 5 other EU countries, and pick up a Haltech without paying customs.





I'm always willing to give up the E6k to HA members for cheaper than what I'm asking. That's why I said "obo" within reason.

Is the Eclipse pump new? If not then I wouldn't put it in your car as they are known to fail with high miles on them.



make sure a good quality wideband O2 sensor is #1 on your list and that you DO NOT BOOST without it!!



I recommend the AEM LSU 4.9 Wideband as its one of the fastest most accurate ones on the market. It has a 0-5 volt output that you should be able to run into the SMT8 for datalogging.

Bought it brand new before 3-4 years.



Yep thats the plan ;)



These days will sell the ITBs :happyanim: Tomorrow will recieve IM and by the end of the week the turbo will be here. It is from Evo 8.5 10.5 hotside good for up to 380 bhp.



Tonight will work on the exhaust manifold. Have to make the holes bigger and cut one of them. Also will have to enlarge the ports to fit the head nicely.



A lot of beer and money and we'll get there :beercheers:

For me I just drilled and tapped head for that one bolt hold on the lower right of manifold. Makes for much better seal than cutting the flange and using a bolt with big washer..talking to you TibbyTib!! ;)



So are you going to stick with the stock EVO wastegate and blow your motor or find a lower PSI wastegate?

Do you have a pic of your solution ?



I told you that I will get another wastegate. Do you think that I will invest in that motor just to blow it ?! Really ? :D



So if you are using evo turbo and manifold this means you are " cheap " :biggrin: