That Airram looks great but you're going to need solid mounts to keep it off the firewall :(
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It definitely is a tight fit between the firewall and Air Ram! This is the reason why I filled the front and rear mounts with 80a liquid polyurethane.
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Wasn't a fan of the beta I oil pan so I went ahead and swapped it out for a beta II oil pan. Unfortunately it wasn't a straight swap so I had to do some modding to get everything to line up. During this time I finished up the oil return line.
Beta II oil pan with a 10an fitting welded in http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...907_195812.jpg All of the holes lined up except for the two closest to the flywheel. The black circles are where I ended up drilling new holes http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...909_172932.jpg Apparently an oil pan gasket doesn't exist for the beta II so I made a beta I fit http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...909_182300.jpg Beta II pan finally bolted up http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...910_153715.jpg 10an push lock fitting and hose http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...910_164036.jpg Turbo and manifold mounted along with the new oil return line http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...910_165817.jpg |
Why didn't you just get a Beta II end cap instead of drilling the pan?
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What do you mean by Beta II end cap?
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The rear main seal cap. The difference in the caps is the reason why you had to redrill holes into the pan. The caps are like $10 used. You're going to have less seal on that end of the pan and trust me, the seal on these pans are bad enough as they are on boost.
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Ah, well then. Thanks for the heads up and I'll make sure to swap that part on my built beta I block.
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The shifter base setup that was in the Accent wouldn't work properly with the beta trans. Granted it would go into gears, but the side to side selector arm was on the right side whereas the XD/GK shifter has the arm on the left side. This basically meant that the gears were flipped.
Stock shifter base out of an XD Elantra http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...912_193245.jpg Billet Pro Shop short throw shifter compared to the stocker http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...912_205503.jpg BPS shifter installed http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...914_194254.jpg Made a bracket to bolt to the bottom of the new shifter base while drilling some holes in it. Ended up having to widen the holes at the end of the base in order to let the shifter cables fit http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...916_153838.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...916_153857.jpg Once the cables were in place, ran bolts down through the bottom of the base to prevent the cables from moving. Since the shifter bases are different, I was only able to use two bolts to hold the XD/GK base down. Not the prettiest setup, but it works. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...920_204040.jpg The shifter cable that goes into the gray clip needed to be shortened in order to allow proper side to side gear selection http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...920_203855.jpg Bought some Torque Solutions solid shifter bushings to eliminate any shifter slop http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...920_193808.jpg Bushings installed in the Accent shifter cables http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...920_201223.jpg |
Decided a long time ago that I wasn't going to stick with the stock ride height and wasn't a huge fan of lowering springs... So I bought a set of D2 coilovers for the Egg.
D2 coilovers for the front. Unfortunately they didn't come with camber plates so I'll need to see if any are available. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...814_191304.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...814_191506.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...814_191453.jpg Coilover mounted in the front http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...814_194435.jpg I also went ahead and did the XG350 BBK, but that took some modding for it to work. I had a friend of mine fab up some hub rings as the hub bore on the Kia Spectra5 rotor was larger than the Accent's. As for the rotors themselves, I had to have the Spectra5 rotors redrilled for a 4x100 pattern. Mini Cooper rotors **will** fit, but I didn't like how the pads sat on them. Quick Specs on the hub rings:
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...1_200656_1.jpg Hub ring on the Accent's hub http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...101_200727.jpg Kia Spectra5 rotor seated http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...101_201038.jpg EBC Red Stuff pads and XG350 bracket and caliper fitted http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...101_201850.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...101_204820.jpg |
Nice work so far!! The Beta2 pan wasn't designed for a gasket, only for silicone. That's why it has those deep groves in the mating surface. I recommend Honda bond for a leak proof seal. Hopefully the gasket doesn't tear or rip being squished into those grooves.. ;)
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I always make a huge mess when using silicone and that's the main reason I opted for a gasket. And if it leaks, I'll resort to silicone again.
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I've always heard not to use the gasket because they always leak, as it wasn't designed for one.
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Welp, I'll let you guys know what happens. Lol
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The Race Egg didn't come with the SE trim package so I was stuck with the fugly rear drum brakes... Which means I just had to convert to a disc setup. Only draw back to this is the disc setup still uses a drum style parking brake, which I'm not a huge fan of...
If you can find an 06-11 Accent or Kia Rio in the junkyard with the rear disc setup and it's in good condition, grab it! I wasn't that lucky and went ahead and bought everything new. Parts needed:
Rear backing plate straight from the motherland http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...026_194922.jpg Shoe struts, plate guides and rotor plugs http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...111_123231.jpg Rear backing plate assembled and ready to go on the car http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...111_181353.jpg Brake hard line swapped out for a brake hose http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...104_150519.jpg Rear backing plate and new wheel bearing mounted http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...112_173315.jpg Rotor, caliper bracket, caliper and pads installed http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...116_200902.jpg |
It is a "Race Egg". It hasn't hatched yet. :-)
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Thanks for the support blitz... at least I didn't scrap my turbo build because the car wouldn't run right under n/a :cool:
But realistically, I've basically built this car from the ground up starting in May.. it's only December and it's mostly done except for the wiring. Not too shabby in my opinion.. |
Part II of the D2 coilover install..
Not sure if the rear are technically considered "coilovers" as the Accent has a torsion beam style rear axle. D2 struts/shocks... whatever you want to call them http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...124_125444.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...124_125945.jpg D2 lowering springs and perches http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...124_144620.jpg Rear components installed http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...124_153054.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...124_153050.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...204_183954.jpg Final look http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...204_184052.jpg |
Those D2's are beautiful. Let us know how they are once you have this beast unleashed.
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Sorry, I was out getting popcorn... What did I miss? Lol
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For the longest time I've had a dual core aluminum radiator in my RD tib and I wanted to have the same setup in the Egg. Did a little bit of searching around and wasn't able to find one so I ended up making a XD/GK style Mishimoto one fit..
Accent core support and radiator/condenser removed as one piece http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...926_125532.jpg Stock radiator on the left and XD/GK Mishimoto one on the right. You might notice that the filler necks are different which caused an issue http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...926_130536.jpg Drilled some holes at the bottom of the core support for the drain plug and feet of the new radiator. Even used the stock rubber grommets to keep an OEM look. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...926_151427.jpg Also had to cut a rectangle piece out of the upper core support to clear the filler neck for the radiator http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...926_152128.jpg New radiator bolted into the core support http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...926_152452.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...926_152358.jpg Core support mounted on the car again http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...926_191457.jpg Talking about fitment... this will be fun http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...926_191546.jpg |
Does that mean you'll have to pull the core support or disassemble the exhaust when you change the radiator?
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Now that you mention it, I never thought about that.. At best I'd probably have to remove the turbo and piping to be able to wiggle the radiator out.
Or hope I never have to change it! |
Considering I have next to no room between the turbo and radiator, only logical thing to do was a push fan setup. Decided to go with dual 12" fans that both flow 2000cfm which should help keep things cool.
The fan on the driver side of the condenser actually hangs off a bit so it wouldn't sit flush. Added some foam to the one side to raise it up and help things sit level http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...004_190029.jpg Both fans mounted in place http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...004_191216.jpg Ended up having to cut out a portion of the crash bar in order to get the intercooler to fit properly. I'd like to go back at some point and reinforce it just to be safe http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...011_200049.jpg Another shot of the intercooler mounted in place http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...009_202219.jpg I didn't feel like plumbing the beta I style IAC to my charge piping, so I just tossed a filter on it and called it a day http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...019_210556.jpg While I was at it, I went ahead and installed an oil catch can. I should look into getting a 1-way check valve as well http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...030_205207.jpg |
Two points based on my having had my car for a long time: Make sure the hoses to the catch can will stand up to vacuum, and you might want to keep an eye on the foam by the radiator fan. The foam may smoosh and/or degrade with age. You'd be sure to get better cooling performance if you make a shroud/baffle that both fans sit in, to spread out their air pressure across the face of the entire radiator . . . if you have room for that.
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So now that the intercooler is mounted and all that fun stuff, I had the exciting task of fabbing up the intercooler piping. The downpipe and wastegate dump tube came off of my RD so I just re-used them. Wanted to keep the bay temps as low as possible so I installed a turbo blanket, heat wrapped the downpipe and wastegate dump tube and wrapped the hotside portion of the charge pipe in heat tape.
Charge piping with BOV flange and IAT bung welded in. Also pictured is the wastegate dump tube http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...029_182228.jpg DEI Heat wrap, DEI heat tape and a titanium turbo blanket http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...030_185627.jpg Downpipe, wastegate dump tube and hotside piping wrapped http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...031_193615.jpg Turbo blanket installed along with downpipe and wastegate dump tube mounted http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...031_200628.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...031_201320.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...031_201327.jpg The hotside charge piping had very little clearance between the radiator and downpipe which is exactly why I wrapped it in heat tape http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...105_180237.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...106_195732.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...106_195815.jpg Here are some better overall shots to give you an idea on how the piping and everything is routed http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...7_193843_1.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...7_193749_1.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...106_195628.jpg |
Looks like Photobucket is having some technical difficulties at the moment so a majority of my pictures aren't visible for the time being. I'm starting to migrate my pictures over to Google Pictures so hopefully I can avoid issues like this in the near future.
Stocker, I totally didn't see your response either! As for the foam, I was already planning on checking it frequently for that very reason. As for a shroud, that won't be feasible at the moment. There's about a 1/2" clearance between the highest point on the fan motor and the rear of the intercooler. |
Photobucket is demanding hundreds of dollars a year to allow you to host images for other websites from there. And they broke their own album downloader.
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Updated my previous post that contained pictures as the links apparently stopped working. Seems that Google Photos doesn't work well with embedding images in forums so back to using Photobucket for the time being.
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Your heat mitigation looks great! I'd also recommend a manifold heat blanket. Not just a heat shield. Made a huge difference in my under hood temps and keeps the heat where I want it.
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I initially thought about wrapping the turbo manifold itself, but that would have been a huge pain. Next time I remove the manifold I might look into having it ceramic coated.
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The engine bay portion of the build is pretty much done and ready to go. The main thing I'm waiting on is getting my PNP MS harness made so I can test fire the car.
Added studs to the valve cover to use a K series COP setup http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...211_191613.jpg Valve cover swapped out and general shot of the bay. Finally got around to installing my Greddy Type FV BOV http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...207_194430.jpg Bolted on the fenders and headlights http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...207_194356.jpg Hood installed and closing properly. Had to massage a portion of the hood that was above the radiator cap, but other than that everything lines up and has decent clearance. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...206_200752.jpg |
Wow, your COPs look fantastic! Very curious as to what parts you used and what exactly was needed to fit them to the valve cover. I'm looking to possibly do this as a small winter project this year. When we wired in the Haltech, I ran extra wires to accommodate the extra signals.
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K series cops are smart coils and have the igniter built into them. That and my MS unit was built to control a cop setup so I don't need any extra hardware.
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This thread has been pretty quiet here lately. That and it's been cold in Ohio so I haven't been touching the car much. We had a slight warm spell last week so I took advantage of that and added an intake for the turbo.
4" coupler, piping and K&N filter http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...120_160809.jpg Everything assembled and in place. The engine bay is pretty tight so this was the best place I could get the filter to sit http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...120_163009.jpg |
Originally Posted by tibbytib
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Wow, your COPs look fantastic! Very curious as to what parts you used and what exactly was needed to fit them to the valve cover. I'm looking to possibly do this as a small winter project this year. When we wired in the Haltech, I ran extra wires to accommodate the extra signals.
What 4 channel igniter are you going to use out of curiosity? Where and how are you gonna mount it? You mount them the same as I did. I believe Dave did the same. Drill the cover and tap with studs. Then tighten down with acorn nuts. You may need to provide additional reinforcement on the backside of the stud/cover since it's only plastic. I just dabbed some jb weld. :thumbup: |
Thanks John! Totally gonna look into these this winter! Definitely having spark blow out at only 15 psi, so the tibs oem ignition system is pretty much maxed out. Dave's old engine breathes EXTREMELY well! It's a good problem to have!!
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We used panel bond on the studs to hold them in place so I highly doubt they'll ever move.
I know Jon did the research on the dwell time for the toyota coils but I haven't looked to see if the k series ones are similar. As far as I know, I'm the only one using these cops at the time. |
Originally Posted by tibbytib
(Post 718982)
Thanks John! Totally gonna look into these this winter! Definitely having spark blow out at only 15 psi, so the tibs oem ignition system is pretty much maxed out. Dave's old engine breathes EXTREMELY well! It's a good problem to have!!
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Originally Posted by SpoolinShark
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We used panel bond on the studs to hold them in place so I highly doubt they'll ever move.
Interesting. So did you still drill the valve cover and then bond the studs, or did you literally bond the studs to the surface of the valve cover without drilling and tapping holes?? I'm assuming you used 3m panel bond, 2 part epoxy? Jon- yep, they are gapped quite a bit lower then stock. I believe I'm down to 22 thousandths. I know I can go lower, but just feel I'm getting in the range of putting a band aid on top of another band aid. COPs are a great way to go, I have the standalone that can handle em ( Haltech Elite), they will allow me to run a near stock plug gap for better combustion, and, well, they look bad ass!! |
We drilled holes in the valve cover and ran the studs up through it from the bottom. After that used panel bond on the stud heads on the underside of the cover to hold it in place..
Basically same thing that Jon ended up doing. |
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