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The build of the Race Egg
Figured I'd go ahead and start a thread for the MC Accent that I have been building. Some people already know about this but a lot still don't.
I will list up most of the details of the build but the pictures will start to come later as things get closer to being finished. Most of the parts for this build came from my boosted RD that I made a thread about last year. But unfortunately, the tib became too rusty for my liking and I decided it wasn't worth it to fix anymore.. Which lead me to the Accent, aka "Race Egg" - #raceegg 2010 Accent GS with 80K on the clock that has a full beta swap!! Engine
Transmission
Turbo parts
Mounts
Fuel delivery
Cooling
Suspension
Brakes
Electronics
Wheels
Exterior
Extras
Teaser pics for the time being!!! http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...107_193914.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...107_193843.jpg |
This is incredible!
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:jawdrop: :bowdown:
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:worship: :worship: :worship:
How much HP do you think you'll end up with when you're done? And what tires will you use to keep the power to the ground? |
Accent Goals right there! With all the beta swaps you see on here, this is probably the coolest one since it's using an MC and not an LC Accent.
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thats a lot of work to do on a car but it looks like its been pretty easy of a build. i like that you included the parts list so anyone else can replicate it. :thumbup: love seeing people do unique builds.
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This is really awesome. It would be great if you could share some of the Beta swap details such as how you got the mounts to work, what axles you used, etc.
I bet this thing will be incredible! |
I've been working on this swap since about May of this year. Other Beta swaps have been done in the MC accent but they generally all use the Alpha II transmission which bolts right up to the Beta block. The people who go this route can use all of the stock brackets minus the passenger one, which needs to use a bracket from a XD elantra.
Since I'm doing a full Beta swap (engine/transmission/shifter) I had to design a front engine bracket and transmission bracket along with using the XD elantra bracket on the passenger side. I'm currently using the stock MC Accent axles as they fit in the trans just fine and are long enough to bolt into the hubs. For the time being, I'm hoping to make about 350-400whp on e85 with around 15psi. This won't be a daily driver either and I have built block with Pauter rods and Wiesco pistons that will go in sometime next year. I'm looking to pick up some 225/50/16 Falken Azenis to help cut down on traction issues, which I already know will happen. I'll keep the first post as the master build list and will add things to it occasionally as I remember them. I'm sure I am forgetting things. |
Might as well begin the photo dump with how the car looked before I started tearing into it.
Stock Alpha II engine/trans http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...521_152108.jpg Pulled the core support for ease of access http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...603_205945.jpg Sandblasted the bay and cradle as there was tons of surface rust http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...611_180450.jpg Prepped and primed the surfaces http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...618_135541.jpg Finished everything off with bed liner. I really like how everything came out! http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...619_194518.jpg Sandblasted the front fender wheel wells and used bed liner on them as well http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...0_202300_1.jpg |
wait.
did you say that the beta swaps into that car with no need for motor mount fab? hmmmm tempting i wonder how much work itd be to swap all my stuff over. brakes wont swap since the bolt pattern is different everything else might |
If you use the alpha II trans, most everything will bolt right up minus the exception of needing a XD elantra bracket on the passenger side..
Wiring is a whole other story.. As for the brakes, I did the xg350 setup on the front with Kia Spectra5 rotors redrilled to 4x100. Ended up having a friend of mine make custom hub rings so that the rotors would fit. |
I'm subscribing to this thread so I can keep up on this build. :bowdown:
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That bedliner looks amazing, and is a great idea.
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loving your work my friend, that's one heck of a project.
In the UK we're not allowed to paint over the brake lines as they would suspect you have painted over to hide the rust, it'd fail the MOT (i think). |
Can't wait to see it running down a track. :beercheers:
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Pulled all of the power steering components out of the car.. Because race car
16x1.5mm to 6an fitting and 14x1.5mm to 6an fitting http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...2_185400_2.jpg Fittings installed into the steering rack http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...703_164008.jpg 6an braided hose and hose ends to loop everything http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...703_164853.jpg |
Decided that the engine and trans needed cleaned up so I stripped everything down and sand blasted it all. That of course was followed by paint.
Before http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...625_151244.jpg After - Yes, I'm changing the oil filter and I cleaned up the overspray already http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...628_205105.jpg Started to mock up the MC a/c compressor to the Beta block. The Beta block only has 3 bolt holes to be used whereas the Alpha II block has 4.. So naturally the top left bolt wasn't used. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...708_134723.jpg The MC compressor finally bolted to the Beta block. I had to use nuts between the block and compressor on the bottom bolts as there was a gap when tightening everything down. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...806_162300.jpg |
Push clutch conversion with ACT 6 puck sprung disk and custom ACT Maxx pressure plate. This setup should hold close to 500hp.
These pictures are technically from my tib build, but they are still in the trans which is now in the Accent. Collar from AtelierHP pressed onto the Beta II input shaft cover http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...223_140804.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...3_145232_1.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...108_214041.jpg [http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...109_134542.jpg |
Had Colt Cams do a tri-flow regrind on my Beta II cams. Went with Crower .035" lash caps to make up for the reduction on the base circle of the cams.
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...930_175825.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...007_183019.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...5407773984.jpg |
Modified the stock Accent fuel canister to accept an on3 320lph e85 compatible fuel pump. I converted the stock feed line into a return line, roughly 5an, and ran a new 6an feed line to the bay.
By the way, the Race Egg will be ran on corn power. Drilled a hole in the top of the canister and added a 90° bulkhead 6an fitting. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...717_200648.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...717_200702.jpg Ended up having to remove some material on the inside of the canister as the pump was too large to fit http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...717_200810.jpg The new pump with with a 6an push-lok fitting and hose. Wired in the stock fuel pump harness connector too http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...717_201019.jpg Pump and canister fully assembled and ready to drop in http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...717_204509.jpg The pump and canister back in the tank with all of the hoses/lines hooked up http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...719_205215.jpg |
Subscribed to to this thread. Cool build that I'll want to follow one day if I ever get an Accent ;)
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I'm curious about the push conversion. Are they still made? What bearing does it use?
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Accent goals like you wont believe. Man I want to do this to my car so bad. :bowdown: How much money do you think you have spent so far on everything?
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Oh another question, how did you do your rear disk conversion.
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the push conversion is entirely OEM parts.
i believe jongtr posted the part numbers somewhere. |
You can still purchase the push clutch conversion from AtelierHP. It was around $150 USD when I bought it.
As for the rear disk swap, it's all oem parts as the MC Accent did have a rear disk option. I'll post up pictures and parts of what is needed. |
Thanks! I would love to see pictures!
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Since I'm going to be running primarily e85 and using MS3x, figured I'd take advantage of the flex fuel capabilities of the ecu. Mounted the Aeromotive A1000 FPR as well as running the fuel lines.
GM Flex Fuel sensor http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...730_163316.jpg Sensor mounted in the bay within the return line http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...803_200334.jpg Aeromotive A1000 FPR mounted http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...803_200402.jpg Shot of the bay with all the lines and FPR http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...803_200425.jpg |
Looks awesome man! Looking forward to seeing the finished product!
Saw you are using Bosch 1000 injectors. I used Bosch 1000s for a while and although they worked well in boost, they were a pain in the ass to fine tune them. If you have any daily driver desires in the future of this car, the only thing I'd recommend you upgrade are the injectors. I switched from Bosch to Injector Dynamics and it was night and day difference! They are pricey, but WELL worth the money, hands down one of the best upgrades I did to my fueling. |
I had these same injectors in my boosted RD setup and didn't seem to have any issues when I was just cruising around town. I will definitely look into the ID injectors though and see what I can get my hands on.
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I think it also depends on the ECU you are using. Some like Microtech don't have a lot of resolution to adjust.
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I'm using the MS3x and I believe the fuel maps are 16x16.
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Not that way, for example Haltech you can adjust 0.01 mS at the time. Microtech you can go something like 0.07 mS at the time.
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This should be the last post about fuel system components.. I hope.
I'm using 2g DSM 6an fuel rail fittings which fit in our fuel rail without any issues. The fittings bolt right up on the driver side of the rail with no issues, the passenger side required me to widen the bolt holes on the fitting itself. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...330_185314.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...330_185717.jpg Bosch 1000cc EV6 style injectors. Had them cleaned and flow tested a few months back and they are actually flowing 1100cc.. So that's a plus. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...412_190826.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...412_190929.jpg |
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I think it also depends on the ECU you are using. Some like Microtech don't have a lot of resolution to adjust.
The Elite has 32x32, so plenty of resolution . The problem lies in the injectors non-linear portion in it's lowest pulse width range. This is the range used for idle and throttle dip in. Drilled injectors actually dip in their flow for a split second and this is known as their unusable range in the injectors pulse width. It's unreliable because the flow in not linear. It's a very small area. Depending on your fueling needs, you may never hit this area in the pulse width of the injectors. I happened to when tuning on 91 while setting up the flex fuel. Car bucked and chugged in this part of the map due to this phenomenon. The ID1000s solved this because their injectors, while still suffering from this non-linear effect of low pulse width, is much MORE linear and makes this unusable range that was so unpredictable before, much more predictable and gives the tuner an opportunity to be able to tune in this range. This problem never showed it's ugly face until I decided to use a flex fuel sensor and be able to run on 91. Since E85 requires so much more fuel, it got me out of that range. When we went to 91, it requires a lot less fuel and put me right in the middle of that unusable range during idle and throttle dip in. The Injectors Dynamics resolved this problem. Here is a crude drawing I found that should help explain the non linear characteristics of a typical modified injector. |
I understand where you're coming from with the injector standpoint of things and appreciated the breakdown. As for my fueling, I'll be predominantly using e85 and will only run 93 as a backup scenario.
I'll see how these Bosch's go and if I run into the above issues, I'll get a set of ID injectors. I'd like to hit 500hp at some point in time, so I'll probably max out the 1000cc injectors before then with e85. |
Removed the stock slave cylinder hard line and replaced it with 3an stainless steel braided line. All of these parts were on my RD so figured I might as well re-use them.
Disregard the clutch master cylinder as it's out of my RD. Stainless steel 3an line along with 3an to 10x1mm flared fittings. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...207_105606.jpg Beta II slave cylinder with the internal spring removed http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...207_112647.jpg 3an to 10x1mm fitting installed into the clutch master cylinder http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...806_152704.jpg Line, fittings and slave cylinder hooked up http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...806_152854.jpg |
While doing this swap, I wanted to re-use as much of the stock harness as possible for the sensors to avoid having to hack everything up. In doing so, I've had to swap out some sensors along with modding some to fit properly.
This is a stock Alpha II crank sensor. As you can see, there is a lip towards the base of the sensor itself whereas the Beta I sensor doesn't have this. This causes issues and wouldn't let the sensor sit flush in the block. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...727_194122.jpg Ended up using a Dremel to remove this lip so that the sensor would sit flush in the block. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...803_204544.jpg Modded Alpha II and Beta I crank sensors next to each other to show that they are the same height. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...905_164454.jpg I'm running a Beta II trans in this setup so I went ahead and pulled the stock Alpha II speedo sensor and placed it in the Beta II trans. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...715_143618.jpg |
Here are some of the bolt on goodies that I am using for my setup. As you can see, the engine is in the car in these pics. I'll more than likely make the next post about the bracket setup that I ended up using.
Beta I Air Ram intake manifold with Beta II RSide 65mm throttle body. Ended up having to rotate the throttle body 180° as the pulley wouldn't clear the firewall. http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...012_192756.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...112_125910.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...112_125904.jpg Maintec turbo manifold with 38mm wastegate flange http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...311_185113.jpg Big Holset H1C with 12cm housing http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...310_223200.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...717_153316.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...717_161211.jpg |
In order to get the beta swap to sit in the bay, I had to get creative and custom design the front roll stop bracket along with the transmission bracket. For the passenger side bracket, I ended up using the stock bracket from an XD Elantra. The rear roll stop bracket I just re-used the stock MC Accent bracket as it lined right up.
Filled the front and rear engine mounts with 80a liquid polyurethane http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...718_201227.jpg Front bracket welded together and mounting holes drilled http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...905_154935.jpg http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...905_154930.jpg Transmission bracket welded together and mounting holes drilled http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...905_154920.jpg Stock rear MC Accent bracket bolted up to the Beta II transmission http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...806_170205.jpg Stock XD Elantra passenger side bracket http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...127_185603.jpg Engine and transmission finally bolted in place http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...905_185409.jpg |
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