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Beta I to II conversion

Old Sep 23, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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ok so pretty much i am putting everything off of beta1 on to beta 2 long block.

can you give me some more details on the oil pressure issue ?
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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i think i should post compression numbers of the only beta hybrid EVAH

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In the US, maybe...

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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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Beta I vs Beta II oil pressure

Ok..

The beta I has slightly lower oil pressure in the head compared to the beta II. Reason... Shims need crazy oil pressure, HLAs dont. For this reason, hyundai placed the oil pressure regulator in the beta I on the very top of the block. If you ever see a nakid beta I without a head, you can actually see the oil pressure regulator in one of the channels. The beta II does have an oil pressure regulator as well, except it has it somewhere in the head.

The beta I will regulate oil before the head. The beta II will regulate oil IN the head, capish?
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Although the shims might be friendlier in higher reved engines and with lumpier cams..

I love the fact that i dont have to adjust HLAs. Im not raising my rev past 7k (since the block might give out before the head ever will) and im not going through with EXTREME cams, so HLAs will be just fine.

I prefer HLAs over shims any day.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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i was wondering the same thing if it was an easy swap or not because my car has high milage and i wanted to swap the engine for a lower mileage engine.. and seeing as im gonna swap an engine, i was wondering if the beta2 is a better engine to put in.. keeping in mind after the swap im planning to turbo it .. and it would be map based which i assume would be better for turbo. So someone enlighten me on this idea. Or would the beta 1 be better to turbo.
thanks
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Old May 3, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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QUOTE (Jaws021 @ Sep 24 2004, 05:31 PM)
I prefer HLAs over shims any day.


What's the difference between HLA and shim?
What is better?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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i think it's that the shims can be adjusted where the HLA's do not.

And as Jaws021 stated he prefers HLA's because he will not be using large cams or going beyond the 7k rpm threshold.

It basically depends on the application.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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that is about the differences as far as I can tell. You CAN used a beta 2 head and block with our ancilleries and fuel injection. It is a simple matter of bolting everything to the head and block. I think you only run into problems if you get a head with the variable valve geometry.. you would have to disable that.

And HLAs never need adjustment. The solid lifters on the Beta2 use shims for adjustment. Do not worry about them though, if they are anything like my italian cars, they will stay in adjustment for 80,000 or more miles as the shims do not wear out easily if at all.
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