Like mad-machine said, simply wait until the option is available here in the US.

 

What are you talking about Hamhead confused.gif
You shouldn't have any problems at all with your ECU if you change your transmission...

 

^^^ He is right. Manual trans swap has no effect on ECU. The ECU does nothing in reguards to the tranny.

 

Its plan a simple ITS NOT WORTH IT, i mean lawd why would u wanna spend that much on just a stock trannny, How much faster you think u will get from it, save your money and buy a VHR kit and start on a trubo project if u want speed. Besides i have drove a GK 6-speed there really isnt anything extra there. If u wanna swtich auto to stick , thats fine loneshark did a DIY on it and that will help u alot, plus you'll fined the 5-speed tranny in your local junkyard for a hell of alot cheaper

Edit:well u do have to wire the tranny the right way, or the ECU will give u a CEL telling u a code that it cant tell if its a auto or 5-speed even though you will drive with no prob also ifu wire it wrong every time u go to put it in gear a CEL will pop up because it wont know which gear its in, that was jsut a few trouble shooting loneshark ran into while doing the 5-speed swap, so the ECU does play a part with your tranny smile.gif

 

NO the only reazson i asked is i have done the turbo uprgades and now when im on the freeway im in the 4000s running at 80 i just wanted to know if there was somthing i could do to raise my final drive io love 1rst though 4th cant be beat but when im on the freeway it just stinks. what final drive numbers are we talking here? to lower my rpms in fith for a better freeway cruisiung gear? so the six speed is out it can be done but its toocostly to even thinkabout right now cool. thanks


waht would be better for freewaydriving? a final gear ratio 4.5 gear or a 4.1 gear? i tried to get ahold of real engineering but they said the email adressses are bunkand it wouldnt send my messages.

 

Grammar corrected

i agree that being able to keep all our gears and just shifting into 6th would be perfect but that seems very improbable...as far as adjusting the gear ratios to get a higher speed at lower rpms use this calculator

http://www.rdtiburon.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5186

i would like to tell you staight up but i dont have excel fully installed...i lost my cdkey...any one got one i could use?

 

Oh really...

Then how come i have a beta II 5 speed on my beta I? Also what part of your ecu controls your manual tranny?


Ok.. im not saying the 6 speed in the US will fit.. but think about this.

From what i remember.. the 03 elantra and 03 tiburon (i4s that is) share the same engine/ tranny mounts.

Both are beta II's and pretty much identical (talking I4 terms).

Ive researched this as well.. and it seems that the v6 and i4 do share similar manual trannies if not identical.
I have seen diagrams of the v6 manual tranny.. and it looks like it will bolt up (not completely).

Ok.. so going by that.. if an 03 tranny can fit in our cars.. then we can consider a 6 speed swap to be not that far fetched.

Well i do have an 03 elantra tranny in my car. The drivers side mount is not the same. The front mount i think is the same. But the rear one is not...
HOW EVER
All my beta I trannie mounts fit perfectly on the 03 tranny, with the exception of the rear mount.
I had to grind off a bit from the mount and the tranny to make it fit..

IT DID FIT though..

So..

In reality... i think its possible. The only thing we need to confirm is the bolt pattern (which looks ok to me).

Then you would need to get a new shifter, new cables, the mounts will have to be tested and made sure they fit ok, your speedo will go haywire, and you will need to get the harness and wires for the back up switch.

In all honesty.. i think it will work. Some customizing will need to be done, but i think it will be easier then the auto to manual swap.

I was actually waiting for my local junk yard to buy a new v-6 manual so i can rape it before it got parted out, with the intentions of taking pictures and finding out how hard it would be.

I am not sure i will spend the money to do so... im loving this 03 tranny.. and i dont want to deal with the possible nightmare of wondering how fast im going... (ive been there, done that).

i can do 80mph at about 3k

 

Kspec.com sells the FGR's, they are on our site.

 

kool

either way.. i still wouldint do it:p:


The only reason i see a STRONG need for the 6 speed.. is reliability. Our tranny has been the strongest.. i out of all people know. Onpol used to say the same...

Going to one of the "new gen" trannies, im guessing will be much more reliable then the ones we have now.

This is another reason why i opted for the 03 beta II tranny.

I really havent heard of anyone with the newer I4s brake trannies.. so im hoping this tranny will be much more reliable.

Performance wise.. the 6 speed will slow you down or cause you to loose more traction.

Economy... well.. with my elantra tranny i do 3k-3.2K at 80mph. Thats not bad at all..

So.. i dunno.. i just dont see the point of all the hassle unless you wanna be special..

I have the only beta I/II hybrid, so thats all the specialness i need:

 

of course, if you are after economy, it has been mentioned that the elantra wagon manual tranny has a lower ratio rear than the tiburon.