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how to f**k up your tranny...again :(

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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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ok, well some of you know that i tried to break my auto by doing a little trick i figured out...how to make it slam into second and chirp the tires (i really didn't care what happened to my auto because i was preparing to swap it for the manual smile.gif ). well, i deliberately did that. i didn't deliberately (or knowingly would be a better choice) put gl5 gear oil in my manual tranny during the swap to damage/break that. so, i've been driving for 13,000 miles since the swap, with gl5 oil eating away at my synchros. in florida, when the weather was always warm/hot, i NEVER had a shifting problem. up here in connecticut, shifting is quite a bit notchy. so, i ordered some redline mt90 and changed the oil tonight. now to the good part (if you can call it that). when i drained the old oil, it was extremely shiny. why? because there was an a$$load of metal in it. you guessed it, metal from something inside my tranny. i'm pi$$ed. with the mt90, shifting is better. it's not the best it's been, but it's noticably better. so, i'm thinking about rebuilding my tranny this summer, when i go home to florida for the break. does anyone have any experience rebuilding a manual tranny? i know that i need some special parts, but is it REALLY hard? i mean, consider it in the spectrum of doing "the swap." if i can do it in a day or two, with or without the right tools, for a few hundred dollars, then i'd like to know that. if it's worth having a shop rebuild it, i'd like to know that, too. any advice would be appreciated.

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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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Wow man good question. I personally think that your best bet would be to source a new tranny. Rebuilding something like that...

I dunno. Especially with the way things in the "Crooked H" world are these days. Someone may want to take it on as a project and get it ALL screwed up.

Why don't you price it all ways and see what's the cheapest?

1. Dealer.

2. Pricing for internals (Ones you KNOW will need replaced).

3. Pricing on all internals.

4. Pricing a NEW manual tranny.

5. Pricing a used / junk tranny.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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If you have the proper tools. Just ash Gear pullers and the spline holders.

Its not hard. As long as you keep track of everything!

As you pull a part off you set it aside and label it.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 05:44 AM
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::update::

well, i've been really thinking about what has happened to my tranny to create all of these metal shavings/shards/pieces in the gear oil. a while back, i tried to see how many gears i could spin through when it was really slippery out (the fl roads get really slippery after it rains because they get oily). normally, when both of my tires are spinning from a dead stop (like i'm doing a 6500 rpm clutch drop burnout), the car "skates" a little to the right. like the front tires don't pull the car straight as they're slipping. but when i did this particular "burnout" in the rain, the car didn't skate to the right...it stayed straight, which leads me to believe that, perhaps, not both of my tires were spinning, or they weren't spinning at the same rate. so, for the next few days, there was a "burnt" smell coming from the tranny. i thought it was my clutch, and that my clutch may have been slipping during this attempted burnout, but what if it were my diff making that smell? what if i messed up the diff during this event? i guess another question would be, does anyone have any ideas what these metal pieces may be? i smelled the drain plug after i took it out of the tranny, and it had a burnt/melted smell to it. i swiped my finger over the magnetic tip of the drain plug to assess the metal pieces that were floating around in there, and the pices weren't too gritty; they were more like tiny chunks, rather than fine grits.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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Well...


If the DIFF was ****ed up. The car would drive crappy now, if at all.

The plug will always have shaving on its ,its magentic ,its ment to pick them up. Its not the necessarily the gear, also the syncros metal being shaved off some.

The burnt smell might be the heavy amount sulfur used in the GL5 lubricants.

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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very feasible, shadohh. i also think the cold weather has something to do with the degraded shifting ease. when i was home in fl for for xmas break, the shifting was absolutely perfect, like it always has been until winter came up here. i'm just gonna ride it out until springtime. if it's still all messed up, then i'm most likely gonna rebuild it.
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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 04:20 AM
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Just to let you know. When a car pulls to one side during hard acceleration, its called torque steer. Its caused by unequal lengthed front drive axles. The shorter drive axle getting more torque, of course.
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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 05:24 AM
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Thanks smile.gif
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