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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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^^ You need to name the type of clutch you're talking about.

I'm seeing a pattern. All of these aftermarket high performance clutch kits are coming with 312 stamped on one of the spring's blades. I'm thinking that designates 60% increased clamping force

Ok, so Afterthoughts on XTD clutch. THE THROW OUT BEARING f***ING SUCKS. It had bearing noise from the moment I installed the first one. The TOB popped out of the pressure plate spring 4 times, so I called the e-bay vendor and they replaced it for free. After about 3,000 miles, the same thing happened... It popped out when I revved the engine to 5,000 RPM as a tonal display of force to a friend who was parked next to me. I e-mailed them and they said simply, "we've never had this happen before". Today I was driving to work and I got on the highway, not super fast or anything.. Just getting on the highway. When I shifted from 2nd to 3rd, the TOB popped out of the PP.. I thought, no biggie, it's happend before. So I RPM matched into 4th, and then 5th, and pulled over before my exit to fix it. I got it popped back into place and was on my way. It lasted for 2 more drives, then it popped back out, but this time it would not go back in. I explained to my boss that I needed some time off to fix this and he was understanding because he owed me a day off from earlier.

So, when 1300 rolled around I went to the shop. I had Advanced Auto Parts deliver a new clutch to me, It's called Perfection Zoom I found this.

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Further research shows that the TOB is mal-manufactured
XTD TOB inner spring diameter:

XTD TOB outter spring retaining diameter:


Perfection Zoom TOB inner spring diameter

Perfection Zoom TOB outter spring retaining diameter


As you can see, in the XTD kit, the spring has more room to wiggle and less of a lip to retain the spring into the groove, so obviously, that must be what was causing it to pop out.




Now. Onto the Perfection Zoom. I had a parts cleark at Advanced auto deliver it onsite to me, along with 2 bottles of synthetic blend gear oil for around $250. Nothing but praises. It is exactally what I wanted. It has an increased clamping force pressure plate, and it also has an organic disk. This means it will hold more power and not jerk the car around even when you slam it into gear. The XTD's light engagement is more of a shock then the Perfection's heavy engagement.

Here's some pictures

perfection zoom box


I usually take detailed pictures, but I was in a rush to get this done in 7 hours. The packing was excellent, no way anything could be damaged. IT was plastic wrapped and heat shrank. Great packaging.

As you can see in this picture, it looks like they used a Hyundai for writing the installation guide. Also, it bears the 312 mark on the PP spline as does the XTD, the Southbend and others, signifing a model number noting the increased clamping force I suppose.


Here you can see the Perfection Zoom pressure plate and organic clutch on the left and the XTD Stage III pressure plate and 6 puc ceramic on the right. Notice the pressure plate is the same.



That's all I have to say. I like my new setup more then any previous setup. Now I've just got to break it in so I can hit the nitrous.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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QUOTE (DTN @ Mar 9 2009, 08:28 PM)
^^ You need to name the type of clutch you're talking about.


We will deal with the moderating here, not you Adam. He DID post what clutch it was, near the top of this page.


So, we've told you what clutches to get like 12 times, you've gone through about 12 clutches.

There's a REASON the high HP clutches even over in Korea come with an OEM TOB.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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I would have ordered an ACT street disk if they had them in town. Even Hyundai Did not have an OEM clutch. This was a emergency repair.
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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I have put 1,000 miles on the perfection clutch.

It engages VERY smooth, but it can be dropped hard if i desire because I've done the slave restriction mod. However, it's dropped engagement is not as hard as a normal engagement from the ceramic XTD clutch which I used to have.

I must say that the clutch really impacts the driver's feelings about a car. When I had the 6 puc ceramic, I hated driving because it took alot of concentration to find the engagement point and I was jearked around quite a bit. This clutch almost takes care of itself. It's very forgiving if you're not paying full attention to the pedal, but it can be driven for performance as well.

I love it, it is exactally what I wanted. It's a nice smooth clutch that holds alot of power due to the increased clamping force. It can be driven as smooth as a automatic luxury car if I desire... and it holds nitrous!

I'm very happy with this clutch. Perfection Zoom roxorz my soxorz!!11!!111!!!!one!!!11
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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Over the Past 4 years I've gone threw many stages of progressive engine and drivetrain modifications.
Ok here it goes in order of occurance:

1) OEM setup - Brand new i.e. disc,plate,flywheel, release bearing - Stock 2.0 Beta 1 Engine

The Good: Makes you feel like you are driving a lexus. Burnouts are really nice, shifting superb, soft and hits luxury and comfort all over. Overtaking on highways is very assertive and the car pulls better than automatic on starts, stops, down and uphill starts, stops and gear changes.

The Bad: Gives in no way a feeling of high performance. Leaves you wanting alot more. It makes a driver feel somewhat unaccomplished in getting the best out of his driving experience.

Bottom Line: There is nothing better than stock. Absoluteling nothing. Hands down if the OEM clutches could have accomodateded 200WHP with mild driving on boost and or nitrous, this it where i would have stayed. Perfection. Note this clutch will roast if you turn from mild to 100% wild. If you hit rev limit at every gear while driving for 1 1/2 to 2 months just expect to make changes.

2) Stock Clutch Disc Material Changed to 6 - 100% pure copper pads locally and new oewm Pressure Plate** Note: Used push type system - all othe systems pull type**. - 2.0 Beta 1 engine with CAI and header exhast work (4-1 Headers and 2 1/2 inch catback

The Good: Who says monster burnout? Who says: "Takeoff is a b****!". Who also says: " Chirping tyres from 2nd to 3rd?". This setup calls High Performance tuuning all the way. Agressive. Sticky. Gives the car a sporty apperance on the go and in fact, when the b16a civics line up, you wont look like no mamas boy.

The Bad: Who says chirp tyres even when you dont want to? Who says "traffic is a b****" or "I didn't even know my dashboard could make such noises(chattering)". Who says plase hope you don't have many hills/mountains where you live. Hope that you never go up a reasonably steep incline fron road level - Like going into a Building parking lot. Believe me - Tokyo Drift - Seoul Edition.

Bottom Line: If you have light modifications and want to be a street beast, take this setup. If you live in urban or traffic prone/hill areas, good luck.

3) ACT Street/Stip Kit w/stock Flywheel - 2.0 Beta 1 engine with CAI and header exhast work (4-1 Headers and 2 1/2 inch catback)

The Good: Nice Grip. No chatter on takeoff and runs through the gears quite nicely. The pedal Feel is a bit more firm and give a sporty feel to it.

The Bad: If you are thinking about turbo/super charging, nitrous injection or even simply driving hard alot, forget about this.

Bottom Line: If you want some cool stickers, want better than stock performance and you are not ever thinking about racing or adding more ponies to the engine, this is the clutch setup for you. I love to call this the "Pretty Boy" setup.

4) ACT XXTREME Kit - 4 Puck(max/full setup) With Stock Flywheel - 2.0 Beta 1 engine with CAI and header exhast work (4-1 Headers and 2 1/2 inch catback

The Good: Absolute Demon. As bad as you get at this level. What more can I say?

The Bad: Firstly you are thanking God that hyundai has a nice hyudraulic clutch setup. Believe me, I've tried to pump the clutch on a cable type clutch system installed on a Nissan Skyline 92' and as I said. I tried. It's either in or out with this setup. You are making all sort of road noises with your tyres even if you upgrade to a 17 or 18" wheel package.

Bottom Line: With most full or copper based clutch systems, it's the aggression of the setup that if the main factor. If you can handle it, fine. If you like to cruise and coast at times then you are thinking in the wrong direction.

5) Spec Stage 3 full kit with stock flywheel - Turbocharged 2.0 beta 1 Running 10psi Boost, Low compression Forged Pistons & Phanton Grip LSD 2.0 Gearbox

The Good: Almost like stock Feel and engagement. Burnouts very smooth and the clutch has been performing well over the past 2 years. I break traction shifting into every gear( if driving aggressively). Absolutely no chatter with this carbon graphite 6 puck disc, spring loaded mind you. upshifting or downshifting, this clutch detup makes you feel like you are in the right gear each shift. No Complaints. Hooks like it's supposed to.

The Bad: Doesn't give you the Bad Boy feel even though the performance is there.

Bottom Line: I am very satisfied with this series produced by spec. For those who may have heard thoughts of spring loaded clutch discs exploding, let us re-examine our driving pattern. Beta 1 & 2 cars are Front wheel drive. Thus there is no way you should max out at 1st and 2nd gears when driving. The traction loss is unbelievable. I prefer to save "launching" from the start off line for the rear wheel drive guys who love wheelies. A quick cuise through 1st and 2nd (or just 2nd), and then from gear number 3, your power builds. I have no problem dragging a quarter mile and seeing an EVO or a Nissan 4-Throttle pulsar hook and take a good leap infron after the first 50. I guarantee at the end of the 1/4 i'm ahaed by at least 2 car lengths. Anything less than 2 is not a win in my book. After the race I just love to ask the guy in the next lane: " Were my both taillights working when I was stopping?"

Conclusion: Take some time, a good long time. Think of where you want to reach in terms of performance. Your driving style, and your personal tolerance for chatter. Make a decision on your target HP and know that drivablility of your vehicle changes as you add more ponies to the herd.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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looking for any thoughts on a clutchmasters fx400 6 puck clutch with a fidanza flywheel setup. i am pretty sure this is what i will be going with.

thanks in advance.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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my clutch fully broken in; clutch masters stage 1 with fidanza light weight. i can chirp 3rd gear. second is hard when it grips thrid grips it's smoother than second.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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^^^ i'm thinking about either fx200 or fx300, thanks for the insight bud.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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I had pretty good luck with the stock clutch in my car. It lasted 220,000 miles and the vehicle is autocrossed monthly in the summer since new. I used another stock one just because I didn't have any problems.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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The Perfection Zoom is still holding strong. I think I have found the perfect clutch here. It holds around 200hp and it has a smooth stock-like engagement. This is the first Clutch I found out of all of my testing that handled nitrous and maintained a stock, yet slightly more springy feel. This is THE clutch.

I can't say it enough. You can go out and spend $700 on a act, or less then 1/2 on a perfection zoom
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