People can debunk these so-called myths all they want...the planes alone did not cause those buildings to collapse.

The climax of the damage occured at the base of the buildings, there was liqued metal caused from the high heat at the BASE of the building. Not where the planes hit - heck, the heat where the planes hit was much LOWER than the metal at the base of the buildings was 4 WEEKS AFTER the disaster. No amount of jet fuel is going to melt steel, and leave it in a molten state for a split second, let alone an entire month.

Do you honestly think it's just coincidence that Bush's cronies took out large insurance claims on the buildings litereally weeks before it happened?

Is it just coincidence that Bush's brother was tied to the security of the buildings - security that included procedure that employees say had the buildings "strangely evacuated" except for a few select "officials" in the days leading to the disaster?

And the Pentagon is a whole other story. You show me some debris that belongs to the said plane (the debris at the crash site has been proven to NOT belong to the commercial aircraft), show me the skid of the plane crash (not the one that was mysteriously there DAYS before the incident), show me some damage to the building caused by the large wings, and I'll believe your falsely-patriotic warped agenda.

Until then, call me a terrorist, say I'm un-American and tell me to leave the country all you want. But it would be a silly thing to do so, because it's folks like me, folks who know the governemnt is not the Bible-clenching, peace-spreading entity it claims to be that are trying to save YOU. It's folks like me who aren't afraid to to speak against a brainwashed majority and be called unpatriotic - because I assure you, if anything is unpatriotic, it is letting terrorist in your home land change your country, it's people, and allowing them to destroy what the country was founded on.

Wake up people. The terrorists aren't living in desert caves, wearing turbans and riding camels. They're driving BMW's, living in milliondollar penthouses wearing suits and ties.

The truth is not what the government tells you it is. The truth is here, and if you decide not to believe it, that's fine - I will not debate this issue with anyone. The fact that it would even need to be debates is a testament to the poor intellectual state of this nation and it's people.

Americans hate to see another country's leader kill his own people, and will pick up their guns and declare war the second it occurs. But once it happen's in their own country, they not only sit idle and watch their countrymen die, they encourage and protect the people responsible for it. I don't know who everyone is waiting for to come along and change things, but that person is never going to come. The one who can change things is not a single person, but PEOPLE. Americans who aren't afraid to use their voice, take action, and stand up for themselves and their country - even if that means standing up against your very own government. Our constitution gaurantees our right to do that.

You want to be a patriot? Excercise that right.

 

this is almost as rediculous as www.weatherwars.com

 

I agree that the "flash" and "missile" theories in this video are pretty much BS.
Has anyone seen "Inside 9/11" ?

Anyway, the guy in this video almost got me convinced that what hit the pentagon wasn't a boeing 757..
In fact, on the day OF, when we were all watching this on NBC in school, that was my initial reaction. I was like, it just doesn't look like a plane crash landed there..
And why would the FBI take the security tapes from the gas station?
What happens to the two 6-ton titanium engines?
Just watch like minutes 11-17 on that video, what you think?

I'm pretty sure I've always suspected that Bin Laden tape to be fake too..

 

i thought at first that it didnt look like a plane had hit it.

then i got to thinking.

even before whatever "planned" reinforcements were made, you have to understand how the thing was built, and what it was built for. its #1 purpose is pretty much to control the american military. do you think that even the sections that werent allegedly improved upon before the hit weren't eleventy billion times stronger than ordinary building walls.

i really dont know, but im pretty sure that thing is built like a bomb shelter, because if it goes down, we would be royally screwed.

 

WTF happened to the engines?
Like the video states, it's impossible for 12 tons for Titanium to be vaporized by jet fuel, as the melting point of Titanium is higher than that of the maximum burning temp of kerosene .. even in a pure oxygen-rich environment.

I believe that anyone could manipulate and takes bits and pieces from stories to create any viewpoint that THEY want, but science is science, and you can't BS that.

Also, common sense shows you a plane did not crash and skid across the front lawn..

 

Okay, due to ignorance of some folks and my lack of control for wanting to just choke the hell out of some of you, I'm closing this before it gets everyone really pissed off like it did last time.

Just remember that 3000 of our fellow citizens died that day, in an unprovoked attack.

With all the coincidences right before Pearl Harbor, why aren't folks saying THAT didn't happen?


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Okay, you all know I love ya. Sorry I got so pissed, but I just have had enough of this. Let's keep all the 9/11 topics off the forums. We don't need lost friendships over this stuff.