Have you seen/tried what weed and alcohol combined can do.. LOL.
Its actually bad if you not used to it.

About smoking on the job..
Its different to drinking as drinking you will see/smell it.
When you are high on the job(probably smoke one up at home and then shower and eye-drops)
No one will know...
Dont get ideas guys...

So it shouldnt be legalised...
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Personally I feel that the drinking age should remain 21 for the general population. I think that military members should be able to drink at the age of 18 as long as they are drinking in the Enlisted Club, Airman's Club, Bowling alley, or some other venue on a military installation. I think in order to do that they should be required to either walk to their dorms, catch the base shuttle, or have an identified designated driver. Too many times I have seen outstanding airmen get booted or reduced in rank for alcohol use even though there were no incidents. For example, 8 airman are at another airmans house (base housing) drinking, security forces is doing a patrol because a peeping tom was reported, they looked in the window of this guy's house and saw underage alcohol consumption. Two airmen were kicked out, 6 got suspended busts in rank, and the provider also received a suspended bust. All the airmen were spending the night at his house and there would have been no problems otherwise. Why do I feel the general population should remain at 21, simply put they are not putting there lives on the line to better our country. As for drugs, keep them illegal, send troops to the borders to keep them from being imported.

 

I agree with Java on the drinking age.


Make Weed legal, tax it and put it towards medical research.

 

The drinking age used to be 18 in the states, but raised. I personally dont really care if they lower it or keep it at 21, but then again....when I see how many underage kids get into the clubs each weekend when I'm spinnin, and see what kind of immature ass-hats they turn into when they get their hands on alcohol....I tend to think that it should remain at age 21 for the limit.


As for marijuana....give it time. I seriously think it will be legal in our lifetimes. Its getting closer and closer to being legal now, and all it will take is to get someone in office whos young, open minded, and can understand what the revenue from taxing the hell out of it, will do for the country. smile.gif

 

This is all written from a college student's point of view because that is the path i have taken and can't rightly speak about ones I haven't

I believe that for the general population the drinking age should remain at 21. I say this being 20 and under the expectation and knowledge that the vast majority of people drink before they're 21. I think that underage drinking actually provides a lot of benefits in most cases. Think about it, a bunch of people go off to college at 18 and still can't drink for 3 year, but they are going to and some of them will get busted for it and a couple might fail out because of it but the rest of them will learn moderation and balance. If you're aware that what you are doing is illegal and that there are cops walking around looking for people doing it, that tends to make you learn rules about what you can mix and what you can't, how much you can drink and still be able to walk past a cop, and that unless you have a good escort, when you drink stay the hell where you are until you sober up. Yes, some bad things will happen, they'll happen without the alcohol too, a@@holes who do the crap will find another way. People need time to grow up and to learn moderation and responsibility that most people don't get being at home with their parents, cause even if you got yourself up in the morning and didn't have a curfew there was still some oversight and would you rather people learn to do do these things on their own at the cost of a few 8 am classes that no one wants to go to anyway, or at the cost of their first three jobs? The bottom line is people are always going to find some way to rebel a little when they're growing up, its part of life and like it or not all you old guys did it and young guys, you're going to do it, that's just life.

As for people in the military, I don't think any of the rest of us really have any ground to stand on and tell them they can not drink on base if its handled correctly. That being said, it doesn't mean we should say they can either, that should be up to the military to decide, not us.

As for marijuana, I'm all for legalizing it, it's commonplace anyway, go to your local high school and shake a few people upside down, you'll find enough stuff to keep you happy for quite a while. The least we could do is make some money off of it. By the way, I don't smoke pot, so I'm not just saying that cause I think it would be fun to go get high and not worry about getting busted, I just don't see the point in wasting the massive resources that we do on something that is not that bad.

 

As a libertarian, I'm all for people getting to do what they want to their own bodies. It is not the government's right to tell an adult what they can/can't do as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of other people.

So yeah, if 18 is considered adult, which it is for smoking/adult pornstarring/military, then it should be.

Weed and other recreationals are the same as alcohol. Make it legal to do it in your own home, illegal to drive under the influence. If you're hurting no one (or, if you think so, no one but yourself) then it should be fine.

 

Your average soldier enters the army at age 18. Say he goes through training and gets deployed in 20 weeks. Say he has the same experience as I did, he got shot at and blown up a couple of times, and relied on his buddies the entire time to keep himself sane.

When he comes back from combat, he's 19, about to turn 20. His buddies tell him to play xbox while they go out and do grown-up stuff.

So basically, he got rejected by his comrades because he's not a grown man. He was grown enough to do things that most people will never do. He was grown enough to cary a weapon and fend for his life and the life of the guy next to him. He was man enough to pass basic training. He was man enough to do all of the training that your average soldier does 9-5 in the military to be able to react to any situation as it comes up. But he's not old enough to hang out with his friends at the bar?

So now he's sitting at home depressed, alone, unable to go out with his friends, wondering WTF is going on out there and how his buddies are doing, dealing with his PTSD on his own. Psychologically this is bad and could lead to suicide easily.

Ok, now, say he didn't just play xbox. Say, he went down town and people bought him beers for telling his war stories(happens alot), then he got arrested, how would this look for the military to have a underage combat veteran arrested for stupid stuff like that?

Say he redeploys at age 20 and dies. Never knowing what it's like to have a drunken party like all of us have had? That man is more of a man then any of us, but LEGALLY could not have rights of the rest of his buddies.

Why would you make a soldier wait until he's 21 to drink? Statistically speaking, his life span is signifficantly shorter then yours. Let them get all of that out of their systems early instead of building up the urge for 3 years to go out and party. Let them do that when they're young and dumb and still alive.

The US military is not all fun and games. They work hard so that people like us can enjoy our freedoms. I say people like us because although I am a soldier and I have deployed, I work 7-5 at a hospital to support the basic combat training mission and will not deploy for my remaining 37 days in the military.

I don't drink much. I had a 6 pack go bad in my fridge recently. However I feel that right is right. These problems could be easily avoided by simply lowering the drinking age to veterans or combat veterans on-post so that they could go out and have a beer with a friend. The military can take care of it's own people if they get out of line, especially on post.

 

I dont think drinking age should change. I used to when I was underage but really its good where its at. I dont think it will ever be 18 because then it will be more in high schools than it is now.

As for the drugs, I am with Majik. Drug dealers will not go get real jobs. They will sell more hardcore drugs and turn to other ways for the easier money. Sure the Gov can tax it, but there will still be sales elsewhere and witht eh taxes it will cost more than going to your dealer. I dont think we will ever see it legalized.

 

Germany has a legal age of 16 and it does not seem to effect them poorly. Everyone knows they make some decent cars and it's a nice place to live.

look at this table.

http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/LegalDrinkingAge.html

 

I say keep the drinking age 21 and do not legalize marijuana.
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Other countries that have lower drinking ages and less crime are often found to be behind are social standards. Remember that in America we are much more abusive then any other country. That's why we are in a recession (not to be misconstrued with the word Depression like so many did above), people abused the chance to make money easy and fast and now the rich are richer or fallen flat on their face, the poor are stuck poor, and the middle class has dropped several of its members while bringing down the average middle class wage rate. Because we abuse things we need such laws as a 21 year old drinking age and a no tolerance on marijuana.

I don't even think military should be able to drop the drinking age. If your man enough to die for your country then be man enough to suck it up and wait a couple years to lose your head in a bottle of booze. I think it's awfully dumb to think that because your treated like an adult you should be able to reward yourself like a "mature adult", what's so mature about getting wasted, blacking out and/or puking your guts out? Whats so mature about needing to have alcohol involved to have a good time? I was parenting my sister at a young age, working 40-50 hours weekly and going to school. I was an adult at 12 pretty much, but that's pretty far from being a mature adult.

Really we should raise the drinking age all around.

I smoke marijuana often, smoked it more then daily until I left FL six months ago. I love the drug but that's simply what it is. I don't mind having a vice but I know better then to wish it legal. Go to Amsterdam and you will see the corruption that comes with legalizing drugs. I couldn't walk two blocks without 5 strangers offering me illegal drugs. Ever been to a hippie fest in the US? It's the same, maybe worse. I wouldn't want creeps who can't hide their vices plaguing the streets I walk down. That's why I left FL in the first place. Too many drugged up idiots that think its someone else's fault they have a vice that they can't control.

The government isn't always right but prohibiting idiots from the ease of access to things that will make them dumber is right.

If they do legalize weed I'm gonna abuse it myself and I'm willing to admit that. http://www.rdtiburon.com/style_emoti...fault/cool.gif