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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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WIN ^
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 09:17 PM
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WIN ^


WIN.



As education slowly reaches more of thep populace, and standards rise, degrees have become less of a guarantee than they were say 40 years ago. I think its just a case of supply and demand, its not like the standards to get a degree have suddenly dropped.


I agree. I've read a lot about what the early environmentalists predicted will happen (depletion of resources) no matter what and it's bad. Really bad.



It is a little disconcerting to see congress debating at the final hour whether keynesian theory is correct; they've come this far whilst being unsure about it?


Are they? that's unsettling! i do know that jobs are hiring/keeping only the best people and having others overwork like crazy. right now some employees are overloaded or doing twice what they were originally supposed to be doing because others got fired.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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Wheel_of_steel, your post is made false by the one above it . . . the education system in our country is failing, and a college degree from today is about as useful as an 8th grade education was a couple hundred years ago. There is more to know these days, but most children are not taught to know it, or even to think for themselves . . . which is why HKC can write so many words and be so convinced of his right-thinking, and be so wrong.



The only thing a degree tells a potential employer is that the applicant has a little bit of capacity for sticking with something long enough to get their degree.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 10:26 PM
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^i agree that education isn't as good as some European countries, but it is very good granted it's at a State University and many are being hired (just not enough). but your claims are not explaining why people of all walks aren't getting hired all during the same time. you're taking the recession out of the equation as if it never happened.



you have to consider that until now, jobs were willing to hire fresh college students because young people are cheap labor and need less hospitalization. young people also adapt better, faster, and can do more work than older employees.



you can't disprove that these are intelligent well-educated people protesting. there might be some bums mixed in but for the most part, they know more than we know about how THEIR money is being [mis]used.



you can't disprove overpopulation either. i think that's logical.







the planet isn't big enough. there are not enough resources. no enough jobs. urban vs. rural India is a great example of where things are heading. you mix that in with corrupt business, corrupt politics, and our output and i think that's where we stand today.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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OWS... brought to you by Goerge Sorros... he funded this movement through a group in canada... some anti capitalist group... I dont remember the exact details but if your interested enough it can be searched. Just another puppet master pulling strings...
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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From wikipedia:



In October 2011 a Reuters story titled "Soros: not a funder of Wall Street protests" was published after several commentators pointed out errors in an earlier Reuters story headlined "Who's behind the Wall St. protests?"with a lede stating that the Occupy Wall Street movement "may have benefited indirectly from the largesse of one of the world's richest men [Soros]". Reuters' follow-up article also reported a Soros spokesperson and Adbusters' co-founder Kalle Lasn both saying that Adbusters – which was the catalyst for the first Occupy Wall Street protests – had never received any contributions from Soros, contrary to Reuters' earlier story which reported that "indirect financial links" existed between the two as late as 2010.[57][58]
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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You know it's true if you read it on the internet! Soros could never have a rebuttal argument planted! Also the journalists reporting on the story have done nothing to drive the "agenda" of the protestors! HA HA! whatever dude.



If you think youth is an advantage in the hiring process you are mistaken. I can't tell you the number of times I have heard people in positions to hire new employees or train new workers that say the same thing: young people today suck. My generation and the one coming into the workforce after us are full of dummies who think they are smart, and who can't and don't want to learn OR work hard. The exceptions tend to come from rural areas and non-government schools.
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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The standards of education in japan and metropolitan china and india FAR exceed those in america, britain and australia. Iirc the gap between them was the same as the gap between america and tunisia. There are more factors at play here.



Also, there are degrees and there are degrees. A five year civil engineering bachelor's degree is a different qualification to a three year bachelor's in womens' studies. Your grades, work placements and extra-curricular contributions all contribute to how fleshy a degree is.



In any case, I think getting hired is about what the individual brings to the position. Qualifications are only part of the whole package.
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