Little lesson OP, listen up. smile.gif

Ok, we have a turbo. The turbo spins from the exhaust gases, running the compressor. The compressor compresses the outside air, but heats it at the same time to compress it. This is why intercoolers were invented, at high PSI the temperatures can get extremely high. Lets say 7-9PSI on a T3, which is comparable to a 75 shot of nitrous. T3s are smaller turbos. Which means they create even more heat than the average turbo. You run it through the intercooler and your still having pretty high temperatures when you hit the intake path. The intercooler cools it off but slows it down. You lose PSI through intercoolers, as intercoolers arent 100% efficient. But the cooler charge is going to create more power than running hotter more PSI into the engine, and less damaging. When you run that hot intake charge into the engine, yes, the air and fuel burning make it even hotter in there. Which is why you ceramic coat the top of pistons sometimes as well, to keep the heat off the top of it and melting the piston.

Nitrous, on the other hand, is kept relatively cool. You keep it in a shady spot of your car, like behind the front seats. If you sit it in the back, exposed to the sun, the heat causes the PSI to build up, losing power and forcing hotter nitrous into the engine. Bad idea. Most nitrous bottles should be kept at 900-1050 PSI.

 

Dude, you can teach other Noobs, but not me, so save the lesson for yourself smile.gif

Happy that you gave me a bunch of numbers that most of the people already know! thanks for repeating something that was said only 1000X before smile.gif

Ever heard of breaking and melting spark plugs with nitrous??? safe isn't it??

Turbos and nitrous kits are pretty much do the same damage to your engine, and as I stated before nitrous kits are less hassle and pretty much maintance free, except filling up the bottle smile.gif

 

Only reason you blow plugs on nitrous is because your either:

A) Running a too hot plug
B) Running a bad plug
C) Gapped it wrong

That can happen on turbocharged engines as well. You run colder plugs with turbos just the same way you run colder plugs on nitrous. You don't gap it right you fry the plug as well. Or you could just have gotten a bad plug. People blow plugs on turbocharged engines as well, its just the newbs that gave nitrous a bad name for running it on stock plugs and not gapping them right.

 

I'm not gonna argue with you about this. I had my $.02 in this thread smile.gif

The point is, if you don't know what the hell you are doing, don't get into it!!!

"If nothing is broken, don't touch it"

 

I know this post is old as hell, but here is the skinny on nitrous. Nitrous is safer than a turbo if you know what your doing. If you go to the ZEX website, it has a lot of good info on reading your spark plugs. When you install the nitrous you want to do some test runs and see what kind of deposit you are getting on your spark plug electrodes, check all plugs not just one. You want to make sure that you are getting enough fuel w/ nitrous, otherwise you get engine detonation. Oh yeah, you always want to run cooler plugs with nitrous. The best way to do it is to get an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator that you can adjust, a fuel/air ratio guage, and a fuel pressure guage. You want to see what your stock fuel pressure and a/f ratio is for a baseline. When you are setting it up, run it rich. Then lower it until you don't get too much deposit from it. Nitrous enables you to burn more fuel during combustion. You have to give it the fuel to burn, otherwise it will detonate your engine. You can get a bottle guage too, if you want. However, the nitrous solenoid should control the pressue on the nitrous line going to the nozzle. However, better safe than sorry, so why not get a bottle guage. Make sure you have your bottle angled correctly too. Otherwise the nitrous won't flow towards the valve. I know someone that ran nitrous all the time on a civic and never had any problems from it. It is definetly the cheaper and safer alternative to a turbo setup.

 

^^^ The only one post wonder I ever liked so far. smile.gif

 

Nitrous is only for experienced "racers"... could do a lot of damage a Turbo is a little safe than a Nitro......


My stepfather has a the wet Kit in his VW New Beetle 1.8T... Upgraded.... like E/T 13.3... he was runing a race and something goes wrong with the nozzle (it goes off).... and its broke giving the engine the a FULL Charge of Nitro ...... the engine just blow off..... so sad......


But feel the Nitro is cool...... just don't mess with it or it will mess your Tibby...

BTW.... Great Luck of your dad!!!! i'm jealous

 

Sounds like your stepfather had too much bottle pressure... Either way, there are a lot more things that can go wrong with a turbo than with nitrous. Nitrous is an overall more simpler system then a turbo with less moving parts and less parts overall. Much more can go wrong with a turbo than with nitrous. Coming from someone boosting a little above 17PSI daily, I get problems all the time... and I drive the car once a week. I go over the entire system for twenty minutes before I even start it. As long as:

1) car gets fuel it needs
2) plugs are colder/gapped correctly
3) bottle pressure is kept where it should

You should have no problems with nitrous. With a turbo, oil lines, malfunctioning electronics, mis-fueling, bad ignition timing, predetonation, too hot of an intake charge, cracked welds, boost leaks, vaccum leaks, everything comes into play.

 

yea im excited about it but i dont think i have enough experience to throw it in yet... im going to mod my car some more and save it under my bed until im ready smile.gif

 

hamhead, I kinda agree with you in way, but any 16 year old kit can put $600 out of his or his dad's pocket, buy a nitrous kit and install it.... but since he can be stupid and not knowing anything about anything, he could do something wrong and it might work for a little while and be fine, but next time he decides to spray something goes wrong, and boooom his engine is gone.

Now look at a turbo setup, can a 16 year old kit spend 3 grand and install the kit? Very rarely you will find something like that, and if someone decides to spend $3000 on a kit I think they will go and read some things before installing it, or will simply pay money to someone to install it. If the kid does install turbo kit succesfully and his car does start after it he definitely knows what he's doing and should be able to take care of his car for the rest of the time he has it.