>_> wtf is this? lol.

I have a 2006 Dodge Charger R/T. Love it. But it weighs freaking 4100+ lbs!

I also have a 2001 Hyundai Tiburon. Love it too. And weighs only 2600 lbs.

The Charger maybe faster, but the tib will out corner the Charger any day of the week.

Umm... Body Kits. You know.. alot of people get Carbon Fiber Body replacements, etc. Fiberglass/Carbon Fiber weighs alot less. And as we all know, making a car weigh less improves overall performance.

Hell, if you spend 600 bux for a kit to lower the weight by 120 lbs, that means alot. At least .1-.2 on the 1/4 mile.

But I guess lowering the weight while being stylish is Rice... hmmm ok.

Domestics can't be "Rice" They should be known as "Potato!"

So from now on, any domestic that adds an alluminum wing, body kit, carbon body pieces, chrome wheels will be known as POTATO!!! cool.gif

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Onyx Dragon @ Nov 29 2006, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Motorsports does not include car shows. There's no motoring, there's no sport. That's just a show. Now the other four, most definitely are sports.</div>

Now this shows your thinking. Car Shows ARE a Motorsport. What's the difference? Why do you see cars that have the performance at a Car Show too? I'll tell you why, it's because they are well rounded and can do more than just go fast. Motorsport = Sports involving motors.

Nascar isn't anything in my opinion. What skill is there? Wow, I can drive 230MPH and turn left for 4 hours.

WOOHOO!

Now that's my opinion, but it's still a Motorsport.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Can't call stock rice, regardless of if it's regular factory spoiler or the factory upgrade spoiler. Though, there are some things..(cobalt SS for instance) that should be rice from the factory, but again, it's factory and that's always been exempted</div>.

So are the folks on your site just morons or what? I again bring up the whole "Take off that horrible bodykit" statement. The entire body on that car was stock, plus a 747 wing. So the fact that you guys don't know what is stock or aftermarket on our cars gives you the right to call it rice?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As you said, if they are happy, they'll do it I guess. The problem I have is the ones that slap rice on their car, think they are now 600 HP civics/integras/cobalts/neons/cavaliers/sunfires/whatever, and race around like idiots, eventually careening into some poor mom and her kids.</div>

That's called street racing, which we do not discuss or condone in any manner here. Rice does not equal street racing. A lot of street racers are ricers, but LED lights in my dash don't make me break the law.

 

Ok... I found out what site you guys were talking about. Anti-Rice.com

And I found the thread.

I think someone from here got hot headed too fast.

All it was, before there was a reply from someone here and it blew up, was one idiot posting:

"That's so rice, take off the body kit and wing, blah blah blah..."

Alot of guys were saying stuff like:

It makes impressive numbers, but I still don't like it.

That's cool. It's their opinion. I think you guys took offense too quickly. They don't like Hyundai. That's cool. Same as how I hate Ford. My opinion. Everyone has one, who really cares. The car proves itself without any other comments. Makes great numbers, but the owner make a mistake putting on the big wing.

Best thing about it.. wing can be removed. laugh.gif

Damn you guys are touchy somtimes. lol

 

I still dont friggin get why the wing is such a big topic. who the fvck cares what it does and why the fvk should he have to go get his car tested in a wind tunnel... to prove a point to a bunch of morons who actually are argueing over what rice is and isnt... you guys act like there is an opinion to the word rice... your so totally wrong.. its a fvcking food get the hell over yourselves. Shit man, me and my ex had more relative arguements and she was dumber then dirt

 

yeah I think the term rice is a bit overused anywhere now.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>dont take this the wrong way, but it seems by reading the way people at AR talk, its like they act like theyre the judges of what's rice and whats not.

Like it has been said before, whats rice is an opinion, so to pretend your the definitive rice definer is absurd.

One of your own (from AR) said "money spent for looks as apposed to performance is rice"

"is rice" not "in my opinion its rice", just flat out is rice.</div>

have to interject again because its me your quoting... however you didn't finish the thought...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>To answer a subjective question no... Because a body kit on anything other then a full out race car tuned for aero is for looks... And money spent for looks as apposed to performance is rice... Now mind you I'm not saying all body kits are ugly... I have seen a few I like myself... But thats where the real problem becomes... Every car enthusiast has bit of a ricer in them because its their pride and joy machine... And they wanna tweak the looks and the style to suit them... (even the ratrod guys with the fuzzy coon tails)</div>

As you can see yes I did say that... But I also stated its not an evil... Hell we have guys on anti-rice that will flat out tell you they have done rice mods to their cars such as blacking out the tail lights and other little stupid things to make the car appeal to their eye... And I think that is what your missing... Rice isn't just ugly to us... And since the question was initally raised on our board yes we do talk like we are the judges because its our home... And how we have been defining it there for over 5 years... So yes we are a bit strong worded about it... But think of it as if we came here and tried to tell you that the tiburon was a second rate korean chick car... (Yes a harsh statement, not at all what i think, but in essense coming to a board and telling them their whole basis is wrong is what it transends to)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Now this shows your thinking. Car Shows ARE a Motorsport. What's the difference? Why do you see cars that have the performance at a Car Show too? I'll tell you why, it's because they are well rounded and can do more than just go fast. Motorsport = Sports involving motors.</div>

Now see here we're going to disagree and i'll explain it the same way I did on our board a while back... The basic of our belief is function over form... And the basic function of a car is conveyance and motion... a show car goes directly against that because by its nature it has to sit still to be a show car... its the form being put ahead of function... Also I have to disagree because of the last part... Motorsport = sports involving motors... How is a car show a sport... Thats like saying a bikini contest or a wet t-shirt contest is a sport... Granted I'm not saying I'm against car shows... I enjoy them as much as the next guy... I just don't see them as a sport...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Umm... Body Kits. You know.. alot of people get Carbon Fiber Body replacements, etc. Fiberglass/Carbon Fiber weighs alot less. And as we all know, making a car weigh less improves overall performance.

Hell, if you spend 600 bux for a kit to lower the weight by 120 lbs, that means alot. At least .1-.2 on the 1/4 mile.

But I guess lowering the weight while being stylish is Rice... hmmm ok.</div>

Agreed... but removing them completely would be even less weight correct... Or if the car came without them even though your using lighter materials your still adding weight... Which is adding seconds... Again taste and opinion are always going to vary... Its a personal thing...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Domestics can't be "Rice" They should be known as "Potato!"

So from now on, any domestic that adds an alluminum wing, body kit, carbon body pieces, chrome wheels will be known as POTATO!!!</div>

Cute... we usually just call it domestic rice (which is just as popular if not more so as import rice, hell look at a cavailer site) ... I do like the potato thing... Although I would have thought corn myself... but either way laugh2.gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That's cool. It's their opinion. I think you guys took offense too quickly. They don't like Hyundai. That's cool. Same as how I hate Ford. My opinion. Everyone has one, who really cares. The car proves itself without any other comments. Makes great numbers, but the owner make a mistake putting on the big wing.</div>

Exactly what i have been trying to get across except for the hate/dislike hyundai... Its a car company... they will have good and bad, same as any company... Yes everyone will have their personal feelings towards certain companies (we both agree on the ford thing) but the board as a whole has no hatred for one particular company... Ok thats a lie... but nobody like Yugo laugh.gif lmao.gif

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Now see here we're going to disagree and i'll explain it the same way I did on our board a while back... The basic of our belief is function over form... And the basic function of a car is conveyance and motion... a show car goes directly against that because by its nature it has to sit still to be a show car... its the form being put ahead of function... Also I have to disagree because of the last part... Motorsport = sports involving motors... How is a car show a sport... Thats like saying a bikini contest or a wet t-shirt contest is a sport... Granted I'm not saying I'm against car shows... I enjoy them as much as the next guy... I just don't see them as a sport...</div>

Talk about not completeing thoughts... im not gonna say anything to this, im gonna let you rephrase it so it makes sense...otherwise this is just ranting about your opinion on what sports are and arent...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As you can see yes I did say that... But I also stated its not an evil... Hell we have guys on anti-rice that will flat out tell you they have done rice mods to their cars such as blacking out the tail lights and other little stupid things to make the car appeal to their eye... And I think that is what your missing... Rice isn't just ugly to us...</div>

I see what your saying now, you guys dont JUST use rice as a degrading term, you use it as a word given to any cosmetic mod, not neccessarily being bad.

Which is different from here, where we only use the term 'rice' for a mod that is excessively gaudy (3' wing), worthless imitation product (fake hood/roof scoop), or a car thats just purely biased toward looks (bodykit, lambo doors, chrome rims, stock engine)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Agreed... but removing them completely would be even less weight correct... Or if the car came without them even though your using lighter materials your still adding weight... Which is adding seconds... Again taste and opinion are always going to vary... Its a personal thing...</div>

Hes not talking about adding weight or not removing something that is useless, hes talking about replacing <u>necessary</u> parts with lighter materials, such as CF hoods, trunks, and doors, etc

I know what you mean by removing unecessesary weight, ive removed about 100lb so far, check out the Weight reduction thread.

I wish we had trunks and doors, ugh, that would remove 100-150lbs alone, coupled with my other mods and some lexan and id be rocking a 2100-2200lb car, thatd be fun...

 

This is getting us nowhere but in circles.

I vote to close the thread. Let me get 4 more AYES and I'll close this. We aren't changing any minds or opinions, and they definately aren't changing ours.

 

Yeah i hear ya Redz AYE