Quick Oil Drains.
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Red, go re-read your thread title. You asked for OPINIONS. So we gave you each our opinion on why there isn't a point for this drain plug unless you have a hard time changing your oil.....
Red, go re-read your thread title. You asked for OPINIONS. So we gave you each our opinion on why there isn't a point for this drain plug unless you have a hard time changing your oil.....
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Yup. I wanted opinions on whether or not anyone here had one, and what they thought of it. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.
I could care less what most folks think about if it's worth the money or not, I like putting new products on my car that make it quick and fun to work on.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SOCKS @ Mar 16 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>we are sissies?</div>
As I said, some of you are, yup.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>cuz we are willing to spend the extra 30 seconds to not get a product that has a chance, even if it is a SLIM chance, to fail.</div>
My OEM plug probably has the same chance of failure as this. I've had the FRAM one on for what, 4 years now, with no failures. I think I'll take the risk.
If my low oil light comes on, I'll make sure I take a look under the car.
haha.gif
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>if someone has to worry about cross threading or damaging something while they take the drain bolt out, they are morons. they should be having someone else change their oil.</div>
Unfortunately, that's usually when it happens. Happened on my Excel when I lived in Kansas, I couldn't get my oil changed in time to go on leave (long story), so I had the local Wal Mart do it, and they tore up my oil pan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>unless you are jacking your car up to the high heavens, when you take your plug out, its not gonna splash everywhere. thats why they make drain pans.</div>
I'm not stupid dipshit. I've changed my oil more times than I need to mention, I know exactly how it acts when the plug is pulled out. Cleaning my drain pan is enough reason alone to get another hose solution.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>you get oil on your hands while you are draining your oil? maybe you should be one of those people that get it changed. i have never had hot oil splash on my hands while draining the oil. and it makes no mess. drains right into drain pan and voila. all done.</div>
Oh well, you aren't me, and I'd tend to think you are lying anyways. Laying under my car, trying to get the 1/2 broken Fram Quick Flow out before the oil comes is almost impossible.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>without this thing, that wouldn't be a worry anyway. and when you hit something in the road, you wont have to worry about the valve being turned and instantly releasing your oil.</div>
I don't drive like a moron, and I don't bottom my car out, so there is no chance of that happening. Moreover, if you looked at the pictures of it installed, or the sample gif that was put up on the first page, you'd see the the lever assembly is on TOP of the valve when installed. No chance of hitting that. If something were to go under my car to hit it, it would have to push it up, then swing it 90 degrees to the rear of the car. Not likely to happen.
Anyone that knows the layout of our oilpan should know this.
As for how far it sticks out, it says no more than 1/2 inch more than the OEM plug. That's fine with me. It also says that the inside of the valve, in almost all cases does not protrude into the oilpan, so no sediment or oil should be left in, at least no more than if you were using the stock plug.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>there no point to having this, unless your too lazy to use a socket and 15 seconds or less of your time. OR if your worried that you will cross thread or damage your drain bolt.</div>
There are plenty of reasons. I've listed several, including the fact that my current one is almost impossible to get off, and you can't use a wrench on it. It's in the first post I believe.
I DO know, that when my Fram Quick version worked, it was very clean, with a hose that allowed you to fill your drain pan, milk jug, oil jug, whatever, with no mess to clean up at all.
Sorry I like a tidy garage and honestly, this will pay for itself in the cost of papertowels in one year.
LOL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>of course dozens of lazy members will recommend something that lets them save a few seconds of time. and the incompetant members that have to worry about getting oil on their hands, cross threading and damaging stuff during this simple, mindless task.</div>
Whoa, you are calling me Incompetent? I'm all about keeping my car working great, and making normal chores easier and cleaner. Some of us don't give up on our cars here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (01steve @ Mar 16 2008, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>your still gonna need a drain pan for when you replace the oil filter.
it's not my money-... spend it however you'd like!</div>
Very true. And I still have one. And I'll still use it. But now I'll just run the hose directly to the drain pan hole and have no mess at all, except for the oil filter, and that will be fixed soon enough (Oil Filter Relocation Kit?).
Thanks for all of the comments guys and gals, it made me look into this further and do some more research, and I'm for sure getting one now. Pics and such to come after install!
^^^
Yup. I wanted opinions on whether or not anyone here had one, and what they thought of it. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.
I could care less what most folks think about if it's worth the money or not, I like putting new products on my car that make it quick and fun to work on. There are plenty of reasons for this, as I listed previously, and are posted on the site.
* One Touch Operation
* Reduces Oil Changing Time and Expenses
* Eliminates Stripped Thread
* No More Contact with Hot Oil
* No Messy Hands or Cloths
That's enough for me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SOCKS @ Mar 16 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>we are sissies?</div>
As I said, some of you are, yup.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>cuz we are willing to spend the extra 30 seconds to not get a product that has a chance, even if it is a SLIM chance, to fail.</div>
My OEM plug probably has the same chance of failure as this. I've had the FRAM one on for what, 4 years now, with no failures. I think I'll take the risk.
If my low oil light comes on, I'll make sure I take a look under the car.
haha.gif
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>if someone has to worry about cross threading or damaging something while they take the drain bolt out, they are morons. they should be having someone else change their oil.</div>
Unfortunately, that's usually when it happens. Happened on my Excel when I lived in Kansas, I couldn't get my oil changed in time to go on leave (long story), so I had the local Wal Mart do it, and they tore up my oil pan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>unless you are jacking your car up to the high heavens, when you take your plug out, its not gonna splash everywhere. thats why they make drain pans.</div>
I'm not stupid dipshit. I've changed my oil more times than I need to mention, I know exactly how it acts when the plug is pulled out. Cleaning my drain pan is enough reason alone to get another hose solution.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>you get oil on your hands while you are draining your oil? maybe you should be one of those people that get it changed. i have never had hot oil splash on my hands while draining the oil. and it makes no mess. drains right into drain pan and voila. all done.</div>
Oh well, you aren't me, and I'd tend to think you are lying anyways. Laying under my car, trying to get the 1/2 broken Fram Quick Flow out before the oil comes is almost impossible.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>without this thing, that wouldn't be a worry anyway. and when you hit something in the road, you wont have to worry about the valve being turned and instantly releasing your oil.</div>
I don't drive like a moron, and I don't bottom my car out, so there is no chance of that happening. Moreover, if you looked at the pictures of it installed, or the sample gif that was put up on the first page, you'd see the the lever assembly is on TOP of the valve when installed. No chance of hitting that. If something were to go under my car to hit it, it would have to push it up, then swing it 90 degrees to the rear of the car. Not likely to happen.
Anyone that knows the layout of our oilpan should know this.
As for how far it sticks out, it says no more than 1/2 inch more than the OEM plug. That's fine with me. It also says that the inside of the valve, in almost all cases does not protrude into the oilpan, so no sediment or oil should be left in, at least no more than if you were using the stock plug.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>there no point to having this, unless your too lazy to use a socket and 15 seconds or less of your time. OR if your worried that you will cross thread or damage your drain bolt.</div>
There are plenty of reasons. I've listed several, including the fact that my current one is almost impossible to get off, and you can't use a wrench on it. It's in the first post I believe.
I DO know, that when my Fram Quick version worked, it was very clean, with a hose that allowed you to fill your drain pan, milk jug, oil jug, whatever, with no mess to clean up at all.
Sorry I like a tidy garage and honestly, this will pay for itself in the cost of papertowels in one year.
LOL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>of course dozens of lazy members will recommend something that lets them save a few seconds of time. and the incompetant members that have to worry about getting oil on their hands, cross threading and damaging stuff during this simple, mindless task.</div>
Whoa, you are calling me Incompetent? I'm all about keeping my car working great, and making normal chores easier and cleaner. Some of us don't give up on our cars here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (01steve @ Mar 16 2008, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>your still gonna need a drain pan for when you replace the oil filter.
it's not my money-... spend it however you'd like!</div>
Very true. And I still have one. And I'll still use it. But now I'll just run the hose directly to the drain pan hole and have no mess at all, except for the oil filter, and that will be fixed soon enough (Oil Filter Relocation Kit?).
Thanks for all of the comments guys and gals, it made me look into this further and do some more research, and I'm for sure getting one now. Pics and such to come after install!
No more OPINIONS are needed, as my mind is made up.
Yup. I wanted opinions on whether or not anyone here had one, and what they thought of it. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.
I could care less what most folks think about if it's worth the money or not, I like putting new products on my car that make it quick and fun to work on.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SOCKS @ Mar 16 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>we are sissies?</div>
As I said, some of you are, yup.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>cuz we are willing to spend the extra 30 seconds to not get a product that has a chance, even if it is a SLIM chance, to fail.</div>
My OEM plug probably has the same chance of failure as this. I've had the FRAM one on for what, 4 years now, with no failures. I think I'll take the risk.
If my low oil light comes on, I'll make sure I take a look under the car.
haha.gif
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>if someone has to worry about cross threading or damaging something while they take the drain bolt out, they are morons. they should be having someone else change their oil.</div>
Unfortunately, that's usually when it happens. Happened on my Excel when I lived in Kansas, I couldn't get my oil changed in time to go on leave (long story), so I had the local Wal Mart do it, and they tore up my oil pan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>unless you are jacking your car up to the high heavens, when you take your plug out, its not gonna splash everywhere. thats why they make drain pans.</div>
I'm not stupid dipshit. I've changed my oil more times than I need to mention, I know exactly how it acts when the plug is pulled out. Cleaning my drain pan is enough reason alone to get another hose solution.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>you get oil on your hands while you are draining your oil? maybe you should be one of those people that get it changed. i have never had hot oil splash on my hands while draining the oil. and it makes no mess. drains right into drain pan and voila. all done.</div>
Oh well, you aren't me, and I'd tend to think you are lying anyways. Laying under my car, trying to get the 1/2 broken Fram Quick Flow out before the oil comes is almost impossible.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>without this thing, that wouldn't be a worry anyway. and when you hit something in the road, you wont have to worry about the valve being turned and instantly releasing your oil.</div>
I don't drive like a moron, and I don't bottom my car out, so there is no chance of that happening. Moreover, if you looked at the pictures of it installed, or the sample gif that was put up on the first page, you'd see the the lever assembly is on TOP of the valve when installed. No chance of hitting that. If something were to go under my car to hit it, it would have to push it up, then swing it 90 degrees to the rear of the car. Not likely to happen.
Anyone that knows the layout of our oilpan should know this.
As for how far it sticks out, it says no more than 1/2 inch more than the OEM plug. That's fine with me. It also says that the inside of the valve, in almost all cases does not protrude into the oilpan, so no sediment or oil should be left in, at least no more than if you were using the stock plug.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>there no point to having this, unless your too lazy to use a socket and 15 seconds or less of your time. OR if your worried that you will cross thread or damage your drain bolt.</div>
There are plenty of reasons. I've listed several, including the fact that my current one is almost impossible to get off, and you can't use a wrench on it. It's in the first post I believe.
I DO know, that when my Fram Quick version worked, it was very clean, with a hose that allowed you to fill your drain pan, milk jug, oil jug, whatever, with no mess to clean up at all.
Sorry I like a tidy garage and honestly, this will pay for itself in the cost of papertowels in one year.
LOL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>of course dozens of lazy members will recommend something that lets them save a few seconds of time. and the incompetant members that have to worry about getting oil on their hands, cross threading and damaging stuff during this simple, mindless task.</div>
Whoa, you are calling me Incompetent? I'm all about keeping my car working great, and making normal chores easier and cleaner. Some of us don't give up on our cars here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (01steve @ Mar 16 2008, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>your still gonna need a drain pan for when you replace the oil filter.
it's not my money-... spend it however you'd like!</div>
Very true. And I still have one. And I'll still use it. But now I'll just run the hose directly to the drain pan hole and have no mess at all, except for the oil filter, and that will be fixed soon enough (Oil Filter Relocation Kit?).
Thanks for all of the comments guys and gals, it made me look into this further and do some more research, and I'm for sure getting one now. Pics and such to come after install!
^^^
Yup. I wanted opinions on whether or not anyone here had one, and what they thought of it. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.
I could care less what most folks think about if it's worth the money or not, I like putting new products on my car that make it quick and fun to work on. There are plenty of reasons for this, as I listed previously, and are posted on the site.
* One Touch Operation
* Reduces Oil Changing Time and Expenses
* Eliminates Stripped Thread
* No More Contact with Hot Oil
* No Messy Hands or Cloths
That's enough for me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SOCKS @ Mar 16 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>we are sissies?</div>
As I said, some of you are, yup.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>cuz we are willing to spend the extra 30 seconds to not get a product that has a chance, even if it is a SLIM chance, to fail.</div>
My OEM plug probably has the same chance of failure as this. I've had the FRAM one on for what, 4 years now, with no failures. I think I'll take the risk.
If my low oil light comes on, I'll make sure I take a look under the car.
haha.gif
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>if someone has to worry about cross threading or damaging something while they take the drain bolt out, they are morons. they should be having someone else change their oil.</div>
Unfortunately, that's usually when it happens. Happened on my Excel when I lived in Kansas, I couldn't get my oil changed in time to go on leave (long story), so I had the local Wal Mart do it, and they tore up my oil pan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>unless you are jacking your car up to the high heavens, when you take your plug out, its not gonna splash everywhere. thats why they make drain pans.</div>
I'm not stupid dipshit. I've changed my oil more times than I need to mention, I know exactly how it acts when the plug is pulled out. Cleaning my drain pan is enough reason alone to get another hose solution.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>you get oil on your hands while you are draining your oil? maybe you should be one of those people that get it changed. i have never had hot oil splash on my hands while draining the oil. and it makes no mess. drains right into drain pan and voila. all done.</div>
Oh well, you aren't me, and I'd tend to think you are lying anyways. Laying under my car, trying to get the 1/2 broken Fram Quick Flow out before the oil comes is almost impossible.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>without this thing, that wouldn't be a worry anyway. and when you hit something in the road, you wont have to worry about the valve being turned and instantly releasing your oil.</div>
I don't drive like a moron, and I don't bottom my car out, so there is no chance of that happening. Moreover, if you looked at the pictures of it installed, or the sample gif that was put up on the first page, you'd see the the lever assembly is on TOP of the valve when installed. No chance of hitting that. If something were to go under my car to hit it, it would have to push it up, then swing it 90 degrees to the rear of the car. Not likely to happen.
Anyone that knows the layout of our oilpan should know this.
As for how far it sticks out, it says no more than 1/2 inch more than the OEM plug. That's fine with me. It also says that the inside of the valve, in almost all cases does not protrude into the oilpan, so no sediment or oil should be left in, at least no more than if you were using the stock plug.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>there no point to having this, unless your too lazy to use a socket and 15 seconds or less of your time. OR if your worried that you will cross thread or damage your drain bolt.</div>
There are plenty of reasons. I've listed several, including the fact that my current one is almost impossible to get off, and you can't use a wrench on it. It's in the first post I believe.
I DO know, that when my Fram Quick version worked, it was very clean, with a hose that allowed you to fill your drain pan, milk jug, oil jug, whatever, with no mess to clean up at all.
Sorry I like a tidy garage and honestly, this will pay for itself in the cost of papertowels in one year.
LOL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>of course dozens of lazy members will recommend something that lets them save a few seconds of time. and the incompetant members that have to worry about getting oil on their hands, cross threading and damaging stuff during this simple, mindless task.</div>
Whoa, you are calling me Incompetent? I'm all about keeping my car working great, and making normal chores easier and cleaner. Some of us don't give up on our cars here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (01steve @ Mar 16 2008, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>your still gonna need a drain pan for when you replace the oil filter.
it's not my money-... spend it however you'd like!</div>
Very true. And I still have one. And I'll still use it. But now I'll just run the hose directly to the drain pan hole and have no mess at all, except for the oil filter, and that will be fixed soon enough (Oil Filter Relocation Kit?).
Thanks for all of the comments guys and gals, it made me look into this further and do some more research, and I'm for sure getting one now. Pics and such to come after install!
No more OPINIONS are needed, as my mind is made up.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jay-M @ Mar 16 2008, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>it's nice, but i'll be losing my magnetic oil drain plug</div>
thats the reason I won't get one. I like my magnetic drain plugs. I never got one till I had ~ 90k on the tib. The first time I changed my oil I couldn't believe all the fine stuff that was on there (looked like a glob of graphite). Of course now it's down to about nothing but it would also give me an early alert if suddenly more metal started being picked up.
However something like those filter magnets might be a good compromise. Anyways I have to take off my wheels at oil changes to grease my ball joints so having a drain really wouldn't make my life much easier.
thats the reason I won't get one. I like my magnetic drain plugs. I never got one till I had ~ 90k on the tib. The first time I changed my oil I couldn't believe all the fine stuff that was on there (looked like a glob of graphite). Of course now it's down to about nothing but it would also give me an early alert if suddenly more metal started being picked up.
However something like those filter magnets might be a good compromise. Anyways I have to take off my wheels at oil changes to grease my ball joints so having a drain really wouldn't make my life much easier.
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I've never had one on this car,so I'm not that worried about it.
I'd read something about magnetized dip sticks though. Wonder how that works.
Filter magnets?
...
Hmm, DO TELL?!?!?
That would keep all the BS in your filter, so it gets thrown out right? Not to mention, you wouldn't have to worry about getting tons of build up on your magnetic plug, then get knocked off when you pull it out. I've seen that happen. Let me look into those.
I'd read something about magnetized dip sticks though. Wonder how that works.
Filter magnets?
...
Hmm, DO TELL?!?!?
That would keep all the BS in your filter, so it gets thrown out right? Not to mention, you wouldn't have to worry about getting tons of build up on your magnetic plug, then get knocked off when you pull it out. I've seen that happen. Let me look into those.
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never seen em?
I think they sell them at autozone and places like that. The only think I don't like is not being able to see how much metal your catching.
They look like those oil filter coolers a bit, but actually have a function. wink1.gif
edit: this site seems to think they work better than the plugs.
http://www.synlube.com/oilfilters.htm
I think they sell them at autozone and places like that. The only think I don't like is not being able to see how much metal your catching.
They look like those oil filter coolers a bit, but actually have a function. wink1.gif
edit: this site seems to think they work better than the plugs.
http://www.synlube.com/oilfilters.htm
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I started another thread on the magnets.
I'm going to close this thread, as I've made my mind up. Thanks folks.
I'm going to close this thread, as I've made my mind up. Thanks folks.