Too much power for your tires? Try this
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well if your in a race and your doing 20 in 2nd. you done lost. unless you got you foot still on the gass and your roasting your clutch. But i don't know about you guys, when i drag race my rpm is no where close to 2k it's more like 3.5-4k.
I know the tibby's greatest power in from 4-6k All you gotta do is get doing donw the highway in 5th and get cloe to your 4k line and the car actually picks up much quicker. It's usually about 80-85 and then your at 100-120 before you know it.
[ September 06, 2002, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: Solo-Baric ]
I know the tibby's greatest power in from 4-6k All you gotta do is get doing donw the highway in 5th and get cloe to your 4k line and the car actually picks up much quicker. It's usually about 80-85 and then your at 100-120 before you know it.
[ September 06, 2002, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: Solo-Baric ]
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Sorry Boom, no slight to the WRX's or other turbo cars out there. wink My point was that rapid power changes are not unique to turbocharged cars.
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I will concur with the crowd. A well sized turbo on any car / track should not give you any problems. No one should be reving at 2000 rpms during a turn.... you should downshift to remain in your power/boost band.
The only situation where there might be a boost on / off problems is in sequential turbos that are not well balanced... like the TT RX-7's. When boosted above the stock 10 psi level, the problem is extreme. Right at 4500 rpms when the second turbo kicks in... you get a 100 hp kick in the pants. Very tricky to drive smoothly on a road course, thank god for the power to weight ratio and a good suspension.
The only situation where there might be a boost on / off problems is in sequential turbos that are not well balanced... like the TT RX-7's. When boosted above the stock 10 psi level, the problem is extreme. Right at 4500 rpms when the second turbo kicks in... you get a 100 hp kick in the pants. Very tricky to drive smoothly on a road course, thank god for the power to weight ratio and a good suspension.
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Guys Guys Guys, if you read closely i did not say this was specific to turbo's read again please. And who are you to say well good driving is PERFECT DRIVING. Noone here can say they can't use something like this on any car here,. Turbo or otherwise. Simple fact remains, there are turbo's out there that lag, there are cars out there with more power than their tires can harness. Now if you put together a car and you realize one of these situations, what would you rather do, Buy another turbo, buy a close ratio tranny, buy a limited slip or put in a $10 throttle stop yourself. See me at the track and the first time you loose traction too much because you gave it too much gas I will laugh at you and pass you by, since you think you are too good to use in this case i can think of it as being a safety device.
ON another note, similar to this is preventing bad things from happening to a nitrous'd manual tranny car. How many people reccomend or use an RPM activated switch to prevent from spraying nitrous below and above a certain RPM band? Well why not say that is like this situation here. Useless because the driver should know better not to floor his car with nitrous engaged below 3000RPM or miss shift and keep his foot on the gas. Well stuff like that happens. No matter how good you are. When something like that happens and you think you are too good to use something like that and something bad happens to your engine because of it, I will not feel sorry for you because I mentioned it and you said you dont need it you dont do things like that. When will you guys realize, mistakes happen to the most perfect driver, let someone give others advice instead of flaming them for giving someone ideas to miniumize or prevent bad things from happening.
Back onto subject here, the 2 step rev control that is on the MSD DIS-2. I love this thing. You guys here with the exception of Rd i think has not used this ignition. And I am not sure if Red is even using that feature of that box. I like the fact i dont have to thik about where my foot is on the gas while sitting at a light tree. Allowing me to concentrate my entire attention to reacting to the green light. I would much rather use that than accidently giving too much gas, frying my tires in first and getting a .9 second reaction time. Stuff like that looses races. Whynot use something to minimize those chances. So in a way using this at the drag track did make me a better driver. I am now more consistant at my 60ft times, and more consistant and better with my reaction times than I was before the MSD box. None of you guys can say yeah its a good idea to use or not to use a device similar to a 2 step rev control. Because you have never used it and can not comprehend how much easier it makes things. Thank you.
Red how about your input on using the staging limiter and this similar throttle stop for those situations in drag racing?
ON another note, similar to this is preventing bad things from happening to a nitrous'd manual tranny car. How many people reccomend or use an RPM activated switch to prevent from spraying nitrous below and above a certain RPM band? Well why not say that is like this situation here. Useless because the driver should know better not to floor his car with nitrous engaged below 3000RPM or miss shift and keep his foot on the gas. Well stuff like that happens. No matter how good you are. When something like that happens and you think you are too good to use something like that and something bad happens to your engine because of it, I will not feel sorry for you because I mentioned it and you said you dont need it you dont do things like that. When will you guys realize, mistakes happen to the most perfect driver, let someone give others advice instead of flaming them for giving someone ideas to miniumize or prevent bad things from happening.
Back onto subject here, the 2 step rev control that is on the MSD DIS-2. I love this thing. You guys here with the exception of Rd i think has not used this ignition. And I am not sure if Red is even using that feature of that box. I like the fact i dont have to thik about where my foot is on the gas while sitting at a light tree. Allowing me to concentrate my entire attention to reacting to the green light. I would much rather use that than accidently giving too much gas, frying my tires in first and getting a .9 second reaction time. Stuff like that looses races. Whynot use something to minimize those chances. So in a way using this at the drag track did make me a better driver. I am now more consistant at my 60ft times, and more consistant and better with my reaction times than I was before the MSD box. None of you guys can say yeah its a good idea to use or not to use a device similar to a 2 step rev control. Because you have never used it and can not comprehend how much easier it makes things. Thank you.
Red how about your input on using the staging limiter and this similar throttle stop for those situations in drag racing?
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how bout this: if you don't like the idea then don't do it. and if you do then use it.
what a bunch of whining babies......
like scca said noone is a perfect driver so why give yourself the chance to screw up.
what a bunch of whining babies......
like scca said noone is a perfect driver so why give yourself the chance to screw up.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>See me at the track and the first time you loose traction too much because you gave it too much gas I will laugh at you and pass you by, since you think you are too good</div>Uhmmmmm...... 