Fuel injectors
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Ok, my two cents...
Based on the very limited information you have provided (both Bruce and Dynasty), Shaddoh was on the right track with calling BS. Maybe he could be nicer in the future; funny tho because I doubt I would have been called out if I made such a statement.
If you are running mostly stock N/A (which I/H/E is definately mostly stock) then bigger injectors will do nothing but kill your gas mileage and make you go slower. That goes for both of you...
Since Bruce has produced no further information on how he calculates gas mileage, what modifications he has done, what fuel pressure changes may have occurred (if he even knows), what year Accent and what year Sonata the parts came from and other such supplimentary information, I cannot speculate on his results.
The final verdict: Dynasty, based on the information you provided, you do not need injectors.
That is all.
Based on the very limited information you have provided (both Bruce and Dynasty), Shaddoh was on the right track with calling BS. Maybe he could be nicer in the future; funny tho because I doubt I would have been called out if I made such a statement.
If you are running mostly stock N/A (which I/H/E is definately mostly stock) then bigger injectors will do nothing but kill your gas mileage and make you go slower. That goes for both of you...
Since Bruce has produced no further information on how he calculates gas mileage, what modifications he has done, what fuel pressure changes may have occurred (if he even knows), what year Accent and what year Sonata the parts came from and other such supplimentary information, I cannot speculate on his results.
The final verdict: Dynasty, based on the information you provided, you do not need injectors.
That is all.
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IF YOU HAVE CHANGED THE INJECTORS COULD YOU BUY A TURBO CHARGER FOR A 99 ACCENT GL TO ADD MORE AIR FLOW OR WOULD A K&N CONE FILTER ADD THE SAME AMOUNT AIR FLOW NOT FOR CERTAIN ON THIS TOPIC. LOOKING TO ADD MORE POWER TO MY ACCENT NOT SURE WERE TO START. 
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I have a 97 Accent L. My current mods are: Custom cool air intake, Accel Thundersport wires, Bosch Patinum +4 plugs, header flex pipe replaced with 2 1/2* low restriction pipe, Sonata injectors.
My plans in the next couple weeks are to pick up my bbtb, port match and pollish the intake manifold and, have my exhaust replaced with 2 1/4* from the header back. In the near future my plans are to pick up a Scoupe turbo w/manifold and its return fuel system. I have these items set aside already.
I got the injectors off an older Sonata, don't remember the exact year offhand but i'd like to say 94. I removed my stock dual port spray injectors and replaced them with the Sonata's single port fan spray pattern injectors.
Ok thats the details... I went from getting 280-90 miles per tank to 330-40 miles per tank of gas. Those are my results. Like it or not. No lies here, just plain test and results. I will continue to try new things and rely on my own findings. I'm not recomending this for everyone but i like hands on results rather than posted topics.
My plans in the next couple weeks are to pick up my bbtb, port match and pollish the intake manifold and, have my exhaust replaced with 2 1/4* from the header back. In the near future my plans are to pick up a Scoupe turbo w/manifold and its return fuel system. I have these items set aside already.
I got the injectors off an older Sonata, don't remember the exact year offhand but i'd like to say 94. I removed my stock dual port spray injectors and replaced them with the Sonata's single port fan spray pattern injectors.
Ok thats the details... I went from getting 280-90 miles per tank to 330-40 miles per tank of gas. Those are my results. Like it or not. No lies here, just plain test and results. I will continue to try new things and rely on my own findings. I'm not recomending this for everyone but i like hands on results rather than posted topics.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Bruce Marks:
I have a 97 Accent L. My current mods are: Custom cool air intake, Accel Thundersport wires, Bosch Patinum +4 plugs, header flex pipe replaced with 2 1/2* low restriction pipe, Sonata injectors.</div>Um, let's restate this: your POWER making modifications are intake and exhaust. This is nothing that requires more fuel.
Your *future mods* are neither here nor there, but even with BBTB/BBIM an even bigger exhaust will not require new injectors either. The turbo would, but that's neither here nor there...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I got the injectors off an older Sonata, don't remember the exact year offhand but i'd like to say 94. I removed my stock dual port spray injectors and replaced them with the Sonata's single port fan spray pattern injectors.</div>Ok, now here's where it gets important. Was the Sonata a V6 or an I4? What displacement?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I went from getting 280-90 miles per tank to 330-40 miles per tank of gas. Those are my results.</div>Ok, I absolutely positively HATE people who do this shyt. PEOPLE, LEARN HOW TO COMPUTE MILEAGE CORRECTLY.
Let me help you. Gas mileage is MILES divided by GALLONS. Guess what, you have VERY ACCURATE measurement devices already IN YOUR CAR to help you do this. This BS *ooh I get blah miles on my TANK* doesn't work, because you don't always fill the tank when it's BONE empty.
Here is how to PROPERLY do it.
Drive to Target. Buy little black book and a ballpoint pen, and maybe a cheap calculator if you don't like long division. Then continue driving until your gas guage is on E.
Pull into nearest gas station and fill the car TO THE VERY TOP with your fave gas. Get out your little black book and write down the following:
Date, Odometer Mileage, Gallons of gas you just put in (down to the 10ths, round accordingly), how much you paid for the tank, number of miles ON this tank (leave this blank for your first entry) and MPG for this tank (leave this blank for your first entry too)
Now, if your car has a TRIP odometer, reset it right now back to 000.0 -- or if it doesn't, your regular odometer will have a 10ths of a mile digit. Make sure you wrote that 10th of a mile down in your book.
Ok, now continue driving. Pick up the girlie friend, drop off the girlie friend, pick up other friends, drop off friends in wierd places of town. Deliver pizza for a day. Take a scenic drive through the country. Continue ad nauseum until gas gauge again reports E.
Pull back into the gas station, fill up the car to the very top, and get out your book. Again, write down todays date, total odometer mileage, the amount of gas you just put in (down to the 10th of a gallon), the amount you paid, and how many miles (either from your trip odometer, or from your regular odometer) you just drove on this tank.
Now, take the total number of miles (332.8) divided by the total gas you JUST put in (11.2) and get miles per gallon (29.7mpg)
THAT IS HOW you figure mileage correctly. If you ever talk to me about mileage and don't figure your mileage EXACTLY this way, then I won't even consider your numbers.
Until then,
I have a 97 Accent L. My current mods are: Custom cool air intake, Accel Thundersport wires, Bosch Patinum +4 plugs, header flex pipe replaced with 2 1/2* low restriction pipe, Sonata injectors.</div>Um, let's restate this: your POWER making modifications are intake and exhaust. This is nothing that requires more fuel.
Your *future mods* are neither here nor there, but even with BBTB/BBIM an even bigger exhaust will not require new injectors either. The turbo would, but that's neither here nor there...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I got the injectors off an older Sonata, don't remember the exact year offhand but i'd like to say 94. I removed my stock dual port spray injectors and replaced them with the Sonata's single port fan spray pattern injectors.</div>Ok, now here's where it gets important. Was the Sonata a V6 or an I4? What displacement?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I went from getting 280-90 miles per tank to 330-40 miles per tank of gas. Those are my results.</div>Ok, I absolutely positively HATE people who do this shyt. PEOPLE, LEARN HOW TO COMPUTE MILEAGE CORRECTLY.
Let me help you. Gas mileage is MILES divided by GALLONS. Guess what, you have VERY ACCURATE measurement devices already IN YOUR CAR to help you do this. This BS *ooh I get blah miles on my TANK* doesn't work, because you don't always fill the tank when it's BONE empty.
Here is how to PROPERLY do it.
Drive to Target. Buy little black book and a ballpoint pen, and maybe a cheap calculator if you don't like long division. Then continue driving until your gas guage is on E.
Pull into nearest gas station and fill the car TO THE VERY TOP with your fave gas. Get out your little black book and write down the following:
Date, Odometer Mileage, Gallons of gas you just put in (down to the 10ths, round accordingly), how much you paid for the tank, number of miles ON this tank (leave this blank for your first entry) and MPG for this tank (leave this blank for your first entry too)
Now, if your car has a TRIP odometer, reset it right now back to 000.0 -- or if it doesn't, your regular odometer will have a 10ths of a mile digit. Make sure you wrote that 10th of a mile down in your book.
Ok, now continue driving. Pick up the girlie friend, drop off the girlie friend, pick up other friends, drop off friends in wierd places of town. Deliver pizza for a day. Take a scenic drive through the country. Continue ad nauseum until gas gauge again reports E.
Pull back into the gas station, fill up the car to the very top, and get out your book. Again, write down todays date, total odometer mileage, the amount of gas you just put in (down to the 10th of a gallon), the amount you paid, and how many miles (either from your trip odometer, or from your regular odometer) you just drove on this tank.
Now, take the total number of miles (332.8) divided by the total gas you JUST put in (11.2) and get miles per gallon (29.7mpg)
THAT IS HOW you figure mileage correctly. If you ever talk to me about mileage and don't figure your mileage EXACTLY this way, then I won't even consider your numbers.
Until then,
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accent 9 doing what ? 92hp?
94 I4 sonata is 128hp and the v6 is 148hp.
either injector should not affect mileage very much. I doubt its enough increase that the ecu cant compensate for.
but isn't the 94 a mitsu engine? I thought mitsu used low ohm compared to the high ohm hyundai uses. I'll let red correct me smile.gif
94 I4 sonata is 128hp and the v6 is 148hp.
either injector should not affect mileage very much. I doubt its enough increase that the ecu cant compensate for.
but isn't the 94 a mitsu engine? I thought mitsu used low ohm compared to the high ohm hyundai uses. I'll let red correct me smile.gif
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Ok be anal people....the Sonata was an I4. No, not much of a diff. Just a change in the spray type/pattern. As for gas mileage to make it simple for those that hate having to use math skills.... I went from 27 mpg to 33 mpg roughly. Anally i went from 26.3 mpg to 33.9 mpg. That is calculated on 11 gallons of gas. A difference of 7.6 mpg.
As for the Mitsu. injectors, i'm not sure. Just another test... I'll remember to be more anal when i post here. If i ever post here again... Happy tuning!
Don't forget to follow what everyone says now, you wouldn't want to actually come up with your own ideas and mods now would you?
As for the Mitsu. injectors, i'm not sure. Just another test... I'll remember to be more anal when i post here. If i ever post here again... Happy tuning!
Don't forget to follow what everyone says now, you wouldn't want to actually come up with your own ideas and mods now would you?
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More like we wouldn't want to follow some blind fool who wasn't smart enough to SCIENTIFICALLY BACK what he was testing. 11 gallons? You filled the tank EXACTLY to 11 gallons each and every time? Doubtful.
We're supposed to 100% take the word of someone who installed bigger injectors from a Sonata, but has no clue what the injectors are rated at electrically OR flow-wise? Doubtful.
Then with these *bigger injectors*, you expect us to automagically assume that you A: got more power and B: got BETTER gas milaege -- on a car that has ZERO use for more fuel? Doubtful.
Furthermore, you expect that *oooh, installing bigger injectors is DIFFERENT and UNIQUE and I thought of it myself and everyone who doesn't agree is a hater?* is really a true statement? Doubtful.
And finally, you expect that your absence of 'tuning wizardry' is going to vastly affect the tuning potential outcome of this website.
I'll let you guess that answer...
Gee, was that too harsh? Maybe I'm in a bad mood today. Or maybe I'm just telling it how it really is, whether you like it or not. Hell, I usually do it that way no matter what; why change now?
We're supposed to 100% take the word of someone who installed bigger injectors from a Sonata, but has no clue what the injectors are rated at electrically OR flow-wise? Doubtful.
Then with these *bigger injectors*, you expect us to automagically assume that you A: got more power and B: got BETTER gas milaege -- on a car that has ZERO use for more fuel? Doubtful.
Furthermore, you expect that *oooh, installing bigger injectors is DIFFERENT and UNIQUE and I thought of it myself and everyone who doesn't agree is a hater?* is really a true statement? Doubtful.
And finally, you expect that your absence of 'tuning wizardry' is going to vastly affect the tuning potential outcome of this website.
I'll let you guess that answer...
Gee, was that too harsh? Maybe I'm in a bad mood today. Or maybe I'm just telling it how it really is, whether you like it or not. Hell, I usually do it that way no matter what; why change now?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Since Bruce has produced no further information on how he calculates gas mileage, what modifications he has done, what fuel pressure changes may have occurred (if he even knows), what year Accent and what year Sonata the parts came from and other such supplimentary information, I cannot speculate on his results.</div>And until you provide otherwise, you continue to get the rolleyes.gif I may be funny, but at least that's curable.