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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TibMinn
If you guys go look, I had to remind REDZ to pay a few times even before he claimed he sent it to the wrong place.
Sorry man, I do have a life and am not on here 24 hours a day. Despite what some folks think, I DO miss a dozen or so posts a day. With midterms I also haven't been on here EVERY day for the past 2 weeks either.

That claim was even 2 weeks after the money was due.
Just a piece of advice in case you ever do a GB again, when you set a date for money to be due, put it around a payday, like the first of the month, and don't set it for 2 or 3 days from "NOW".

I left him messages, IM's, PM's, I even had java tell him to post in here, I posted in here for him and know what? nothing.
Tell you what man. You take my account on here for one day. I come home from school and have 14 to 20 PM's a day, and oh, let's say 100 to 110 IM's open. I don't owe you shit.

And thats not even about the money,
EXACTLY! Who is out of ANYTHING? Just ME! I didn't get the heat pads, no one lost out on any money in the deal as the brakes didn't change.

the guy is fricken impossible to get ahold of and therefore do business with.
Sorry man, I do have a life, and other stuff beyond your group buy.

It is for that fact AND the fact that he told me in this thread 3 times that he WOULD pay me and then AFTER that said that he would not
Now where did I say I wouldn't pay? You said that payment was sent in to the company, I saw the thread the next day, and I posted. You said

that I left him negative feedback.
Hence yours. I didn't see a problem.

Yes, I admit he said "I guess Ill have to get mine somewhere else" but look at any of REDZ posts after he missed something. They are all very sarcastic.
Huh?

My only post after I said NEVERMIND on the GB was the one to lock it. Nothing sarcastic in it. If you mean elsewhere, I guess you really ARE new. I'm the king of sarcasm.

I thought he was giving me a hard time and still asking if he could be included all in the same sarcastic statement. Nevertheless, my dealings with him were negative BEFORE that point.
Before what point? Sorry mang, I ain't perfect, only Shark Racing is. rolleyes.gif

Oh and sorry REDZ, I wasnt aware you had to "warn" someone with a disclaimer that if they did crappy business you would let other people know.
It's a good idea, makes folks understand that there are consequences for failing to live up to a promise. And what business? I didn't do any business with you, or that company.

Im pretty sure that if anyone on this site (especially you...) got a product that was a piece of crap or <u>completely opposite of what that person had said</u> they would<u>nt</u> have <u>not</u> left negative feedback JUST becuase they didnt give the guy a warning before hand that if his stuff was crappy they would tell people. And who cares if there was a deposit?
Someone get Kit Fox in here, I need a translation. LOL

I didn't sell you anything so I didn't sell any crap. I didn't buy anything, so I didn't buy any crap. There were no final payment dates listed before or after my last post in there, and no one in the GB got hurt by my actions. I did send the money, but to the stupid email address you had listed. Hmm...

The only thing I completely understand out of that whole paragraph of gibberish is the deposit thing. Deposits are important. I've run over 15 successful GB's in my years on the net, and the ones without deposits were the hardest to get folks to pay. It's a fact.

Also, I tried to keep this out of the threads so no one esle would have to deal with it.
I did too. I was mad i missed out on it but stayed out of the rest of the GB as it was going well.

I simply left him the feedback and described what happened that I was not happy with by using the few letters it would let me.
Awwww... I guess I did better then you eh?

NO WHERE did I attack him. Yet REDZ, in his very "professional" manner responded with this:

publically calling me a moron. hmm very professional of him.
I don't know you "publically", but it certainly met with what I wanted to say. I didn't think it was perfessional at all, I thought I was a bit of an ******* in there, but thanks for the compliment. Positive contact is a biatch eh?

and for why?
I don't know, for why?

because I didnt have a good expirience with his business!!!
Uhm... I wasn't selling you anything. I SHOULD sell you a spell checker though.

why was his there? well apparently he uses feedback to give people feedback about giving feedback!
Call it a lesson learned. Since there was NO TRANSACTION, there was no sale. Both of them should just be deleted anyways. I was tempted to just delete both of them, but I figured that would look bad so I didn't. I left you one. If Java thinks they should go, they BOTH can go.

what was his complaint about my doing business with him? I'M the one that tried to contact him.
You were the one doing the GB, it's your place.

Also has anyone ever thought that the title "admin" might imply that someone is a leader and therefore model?
Uhm. No. On the internet it usually goes to the ******* that is online the most that will respond the most, judge things the most, make the best decisions and cut out the BS. You have no clue how much work some of this stuff takes, the GB you ran was just the TIP of the iceberg. Ask any of the newly promoted Moderators. They know.

cuz I know java does a damn good job and sticks to the rules, but I see REDZ way too often break the sites own rules.
So now this changes from a Group Buy, to a discussion of the feedback, to the rights of regulating internet forums. Off topic anyone? Java does a great job (brown noser), but doesn't post a lot, and lets the mods and I enforce the majority of the rules. If anyone does, JAVA has my back. Yup, I may break a rule here and there, but so does everyone else. And some of them slide, others are edited and warned for.

HMMM now EVERYONE in the trader ratings sees that Im a "MORON".
Maybe you'll think before you leave Negative Feedback for a non-transaction next time.

and now everyone in this thread saw him call me retarded.
Did not. I called you a retard.

Are those not personal attacks? would he not spaz if I had left him a feedback calling him a moron? weird.
Probably. Feel better?

And finally, does anyone wonder why REDZ closed this?
Probably not.

did it have ANYTHING to do with this GB??
Yup. Closed Group Buy, everyone has their items, it's done. Locked.

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He got pissed and decided to lock it because he was mad at me.
Not a bad idea, but no. The phrase "Don't piss where you sleep" does come to mind though.

He doesnt think about anyone else.
Sure I do. Uhm, why else am I here?

About the couple people that are still inquiring about more seat heaters.
Where? Sorry mang, you said CLOSED. So it's closed. The last 32 posts before mine closing this had no one asking to get in.

About the fact that I told people to post their questions/concerns in here.
You were wrong there, this isn't the place for that. This is a forum for selling items in a group setting. That thread would go in Interior.

Maybe someones hasnt shown up yet and they are getting concerned!
Oh my! Guess they should contact you!

My PM box was filled yesterday.
Mine is filled every day. Got ya beat.

But does REDZ care about these people?
Which people?

What does feedback have to do with this thread being LOCKED????
Dude, I don't have to state any reason to Queen Mary if I locked one of her posts. I stated them above. Have a nice day.

yeah Ill let you decided.
Well, when You gets here, he'll decided.

Guys Im sorry I had to fill this thread with this BS but I couldnt sit around and have Redz try and make me look like a fool.
Oh, I didn't need to try, you helped it right along yourself.

I personally think I did the right thing. My expirience was bad so I reported it.
I've got 24 positives, 1 negative and 1 neutral (goddamn Canadian customs). Your 1 Negative doesn't hurt. You have 4 positives and 1 negative.

Ouch.

Please, if you still have questions or orders you would like to place, feel free to post. Ill still be here and will try and help. Thanks guys!
Ehh, feel free to PM or email him.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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*DOUBLE POST )WHUPS, I BROKE A RULE!( DUE TO POST BEING 2.6K LETTERS OVER LIMIT*

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TibMinn 03-01-2005 @ 14:39)</div><div class='quotemain'>And its over!!! this group buy is officially <u>CLOSED</u>. All the info is on the first post above the list of who is in this buy. Thanks guys!

EDIT: if for some reason someone JUST saw this, we might be able to work something out on you getting in. the sooner the better the chances tho.</div>

No note on when payment is due.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TibMinn 03-07-2005 @ 20:34)</div><div class='quotemain'>recieved mad. only REDZ and TBlake left wink1.gif (I'm not gunna wait too much longer guys, so I hope you see this)

If any one else wants in, NOW is the time. I wont accept anything else after redz and tblake pay.</div>

No note on when payment is due.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TibMinn 03-09-2005 @ 19:33)</div><div class='quotemain'>I sent it two days ago. Unless Tblake contacts me somehow real soon, as soon as I get redz's payment Im placing the order.</div>

No note on when payment is due.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TibMinn 03-11-2005 @ 11:47)</div><div class='quotemain'>I just want to apologize to the people that paid immediately on the 1st. Sorry this is taking so long. Redz, man, times runnin out pretty quick here</div>

Still no note on when payment is due.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (REDZMAN 03-11-2005 @ 18:28)</div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry bro, but i'm in school and pretty much haven't been online for a few days. just for a minute or 2.
I'll get it sent out tonighg.</div>

Date Paypal was sent, by clicking on email address in your FIRST POST. Hence the reason you make a spam free email that the bots won't get by PUTTING SPACES AROUND THE @ SYMBOL

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TibMinn 03-14-2005 @ 11:43)</div><div class='quotemain'>REDZ.... are you in or are you out?</div>

No note on when payment is due.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (REDZMAN 03-15-2005 @ 14:43)</div><div class='quotemain'>I just saw this.
WTF happened? I sent payment like 3 days ago. It's out of my bank. WTF?!!!??
I guess I'll just go get my own somewhere.
...
I just checked.
I SENT IT TO NOSPAM blah blah blah...
Oh well. Refunded.</div>

This happens to be where I said nevermind, no one got hurt from it, and that I'd get mine elsewhere since payment was allready sent in. I then found out via paypal's site that the email address didnt' have an account and I refunded my money. I recieved it back on the 18th in my bank account. No deposit due, so no foul I thought. Also, it's not cold enough that I need these here right now so I can wait to get them till this fall.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TibMinn 03-16-2005 @ 01:07)</div><div class='quotemain'>Redz, I double checked with them and if you want I can still order them for you at the discounted price. just let me know what you want to do</div>

Posted after I was done with this group buy and stated I would get my own. Still no notice about a pending negative trader rating or anything else.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TibMinn 03-16-2005 @ 01:07)</div><div class='quotemain'>if you want</div>

I didn't want, otherwize I would have checked back in.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TibMinn 03-18-2005 @ 14:37)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hey man, I can still hook you up if you want more. I dont know how much longer theyll let me do this, but i told them we had a few people that hadnt paid yet so they are lettin me throw in some straglers. I got tibby01 just a couple days ago.</div>

*YAWN*
Still no notice of a final pay date, or any thing else.


Anyways, I'm done here, again. Since Java unlocked it, I'll wait for him to tell me to go ahead and lock it.

Let the drama fest CONTINUE! popcorn.gif :drillserg
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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3 things.

1. I cant believe you whipped out the spell checker remark. Omg I'm one of the 40,000 people on here that's spelled a word wrong. BUT, if you are going to use it, next time try spelling your words right too... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (REDZMAN)</div><div class='quotemain'>perfessional</div>

2. Ask ANYONE that paid attention to this GB. THE MOTHER F*CKIN PAY DATE WAS ON THE FIRST PAGE UNTIL THE VERY LAST TIME I EDITED IT!!!!!!!!! (which was on the 20th!! it had stated payment was due the first. dont believe me? check hp. that was almost a direct copy paste) But I guess you over looked that... I also edited it in all the other posts and took out the "closed" in them too, cept the one that you managed to find

3. This is rediculous. I know your one of the oldest people on here, but man, grow up! Why must you try and offend everyone you have the slightest problem with? I never did understand you, and as much as you think everyone has your back, Ive already had a few comments on this supporting me (as Im sure you have your people as well.) Now, Can we please end this? Who knows if anyone will even post now that this is completely gone stupid.

Im gunna edit this and add a 4. and a 5.

4. you post up when your payment was sent, but as we all know, I never got it. You did not even find out yourself until 4 days later. So hows that relevant?

5. This is just stupid now and we both know it. Doubt youll even care, but I just want to say sorry. I didnt think youd take it so badly man. Either delete our posts or just lock it again. After this who would even want to post...
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TibMinn)</div><div class='quotemain'>1. I cant believe you whipped out the spell checker remark. Omg I'm one of the 40,000 people on here that's spelled a word wrong. BUT, if you are going to use it, next time try spelling your words right too...</div>

Damn man, out of 12,324 characters, I misspelt one word. I SUCK! laugh.gif:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>2. Ask ANYONE that paid attention to this GB. THE MOTHER F*CKIN PAY DATE WAS ON THE FIRST PAGE UNTIL THE VERY LAST TIME I EDITED IT!!!!!!!!! (which was on the 20th!! it had stated payment was due the first. dont believe me? check hp. that was almost a direct copy paste) But I guess you over looked that... I also edited it in all the other posts and took out the "closed" in them too, cept the one that you managed to find</div>

How do I know you didn't edit that in there 2 days ago?

LOL

I'm just kidding man. Hell, I didn't look at the first post again, except for when I paid to the nospam address.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>3. This is rediculous.</div>

Agreed.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I know your one of the oldest people on here,</div>

AM NOT! I'm only 30 man. Geesh.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>but man, grow up!</div>

I don't wanna grow up, I'm a Toys R' Us kid.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Why must you try and offend everyone you have the slightest problem with?</div>

It's called "The Redhead Defence".

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I never did understand you, and as much as you think everyone has your back, Ive already had a few comments on this supporting me (as Im sure you have your people as well.)</div>

Who are they so I can ban all of them? :drillserg rolleyes.gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Now, Can we please end this? Who knows if anyone will even post now that this is completely gone stupid.</div>

Surreeee....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Im gunna edit this and add a 4. and a 5.</div>

I guess not on the ending it part.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>4. you post up when your payment was sent, but as we all know, I never got it. You did not even find out yourself until 4 days later. So hows that relevant?</div>

No, I found out you didn't get it the day after you closed it. It's relavant because I sent the payment, and thought all was cool. As I stated, I'm in college (I know, an old bastard like me in college! eyeroll.gif ) and doing midterms, so I wasn't around for a LOT of last week. Checking in on something I thought was fine wasn't a priority.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>5. This is just stupid now and we both know it.</div>

No doubt dog.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Doubt youll even care, but I just want to say sorry.</div>

I care too man. I didn't want any of that stuff to happen, that's why I just left it alone. I'm a perty good deal finder, so I wasn't worried about it. Besides, who wants to install seat heaters when it's gonna be 115 Degrees soon?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I didnt think youd take it so badly man.</div>

Me neither. I suck.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Either delete our posts or just lock it again. After this who would even want to post...</div>

Probably some comedian.

Hell, maybe Dave Chappelle will drop in.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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eyeroll.gif This became so pointless it reads better Here eyeroll.gif

^ You must be irish to huh? I know some irish readheads... (granted their women) they just love to start something (and end it) tongue.gif:
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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dear lord... that was a lot to scroll through.... rolleyes.gif

I recieved my heaters today! YAY
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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Still 2 heaters left maybe confused.gif

any idea what shipping to The Netherlands will be
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Glad to hear you got them Hob!! and Viper, there are seat heaters available, Ill check with them tonight about the shipping ok?
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Viper- They say they can do it, but unfortunately international customers DO have to pay for shipping. He doesnt think it'll be too bad though. PM me your address and Ill have him figure out the cost if you still want.
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