Airram Compatible 1 Piece Front Strut Bars.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Crimson @ Sep 20 2006, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would the fronts AND rears be produced at the same time? What about center bars?</div>
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<span style="color:#FF0000">Read the frigging thread!!!</span></span>
No center bars are being considered at all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkypc @ Sep 20 2006, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the example in the picture does look really skinny. I may be in if this would be for both front and the rear, or if we can get some measurements on the thickness and stuff.</div>
Skinny or thick doesn't matter, it's the strength of the steel piping.
Measurements will come out when he buys the hardware, which will be after 10 folks are in.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HyundaiKitCoupe @ Sep 20 2006, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would recommend piping a wee little thicker only if possible, as thick as can fit. And where are the strut brackets for the studs?</div>
The piping will be THICK, but the diameter will not be much bigger. There's no reason to go bigger. This style is one of the favorites by the GK guys, and their cars are much heavier than ours.
Strut brackets for the studs? There are none. It's a one piece unit, it bolts on as shown.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SOCKS @ Sep 20 2006, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i would be INTERESTED in these.. a center bar added to the set would be a good idea.. like 150-175 shipped for front, rear, and center would be really nice..
even thought this ELIMINATES pivot points wouldnt it be better if it had a mount welded to the bar that bolted to ALL 3 strut tower bolts? would this be possible to do, even for a lil more $$. what type of steel is that tubing and how thick is the actual tubing.. not dia. of the tube, but the thickness of the tube wall?</div>
Center bar isn't being considered. There is a JDM Universal center bar on Ebay that is beefier than hell, and cheap. Trust me, it's cheaper than we could make it for.
$175 for both the front and rear is POSSIBLE, but it's up to Viper.
No, it wouldn't be better at all. Consider how a strut bar works, it doesn't really matter how many bolts it mounts to. As said above, material and specs will be figured out when Viper see's that it's worth his time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>but going in front of the air ram would be imperitive.. screw looks.. not what a strut bar is for.. and with my fuel spacer, and air ram, under engine tourque, my stock TB hits the firewall. i know i need poly mounts, but having the strut bar behind air ram would NOT be a good idea..</div>
Agreed.
NO FURTHER ARGUMENT ON THE DIRECTION OF THE STRUT BAR, <span style="color:#CC0000"><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%">IT IS GOING IN FRONT OF THE AIRRAM.</span></span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>and with a 3 mount bracket, welded to the bar, you could have the bar STRAIGHT, instead of have bends.. even if that upped the price 50-75 bucks, i am SURE people would still be in for it..</div>
No reason to do this though. The only other consideration that may be made is a bracket to brace the engine or to the firewall.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hotrod @ Sep 20 2006, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Add me in for front strut bar only (polished). Finally a strutbar for airram compatible
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mister_Sinister @ Sep 20 2006, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm in fo shizzle! Front AND rear!</div>
As soon as you guys put your info as in the first post, I'll add you to the list.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zoned019 @ Sep 20 2006, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can we get something a bit beefier? That looks pussy..</div>
You want a strutbar for looks, go elsewhere. The "Beefy" strut bars are usually hollow or have big cavities under the bar to lighten them. A circular tube will work perfectly. It'll be plenty thick, Viper, you guys should know, is NOT known for doing stuff half assed or short term.
For more info on bars...
http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/strutcompare.htm
Here is what they say about theirs...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Road Race Supercharger Strut Bar
This is a single tube strut bar. It will more than meet your needs to stiffen flex between front struts. One bolt design withstands 2200 lbs of stress across front struts. It is a rally spec bar and way stiffer that those bolt together TAIWAN strut bars! If you drive harder than that, we will build you a custom strut bar! Bar comes powder coated. If you want an over-engineered, over priced stress bar, I'm sure you can find one. FITS BOTH 4 and 6 cylinder! SILVER & RED colors only.
129.00</div>
One last thing for everyone talking about "BEEFIER".
Almost every strut bar out there that you see, all the beefy ones (To include my current strut bar), are aluminum.
The RRM style in the picture is steel.
Guess I should sell my current bar.
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<span style="color:#FF0000">Read the frigging thread!!!</span></span>
No center bars are being considered at all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkypc @ Sep 20 2006, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the example in the picture does look really skinny. I may be in if this would be for both front and the rear, or if we can get some measurements on the thickness and stuff.</div>
Skinny or thick doesn't matter, it's the strength of the steel piping.
Measurements will come out when he buys the hardware, which will be after 10 folks are in.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HyundaiKitCoupe @ Sep 20 2006, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would recommend piping a wee little thicker only if possible, as thick as can fit. And where are the strut brackets for the studs?</div>
The piping will be THICK, but the diameter will not be much bigger. There's no reason to go bigger. This style is one of the favorites by the GK guys, and their cars are much heavier than ours.
Strut brackets for the studs? There are none. It's a one piece unit, it bolts on as shown.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SOCKS @ Sep 20 2006, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i would be INTERESTED in these.. a center bar added to the set would be a good idea.. like 150-175 shipped for front, rear, and center would be really nice..
even thought this ELIMINATES pivot points wouldnt it be better if it had a mount welded to the bar that bolted to ALL 3 strut tower bolts? would this be possible to do, even for a lil more $$. what type of steel is that tubing and how thick is the actual tubing.. not dia. of the tube, but the thickness of the tube wall?</div>
Center bar isn't being considered. There is a JDM Universal center bar on Ebay that is beefier than hell, and cheap. Trust me, it's cheaper than we could make it for.
$175 for both the front and rear is POSSIBLE, but it's up to Viper.
No, it wouldn't be better at all. Consider how a strut bar works, it doesn't really matter how many bolts it mounts to. As said above, material and specs will be figured out when Viper see's that it's worth his time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>but going in front of the air ram would be imperitive.. screw looks.. not what a strut bar is for.. and with my fuel spacer, and air ram, under engine tourque, my stock TB hits the firewall. i know i need poly mounts, but having the strut bar behind air ram would NOT be a good idea..</div>
Agreed.
NO FURTHER ARGUMENT ON THE DIRECTION OF THE STRUT BAR, <span style="color:#CC0000"><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%">IT IS GOING IN FRONT OF THE AIRRAM.</span></span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>and with a 3 mount bracket, welded to the bar, you could have the bar STRAIGHT, instead of have bends.. even if that upped the price 50-75 bucks, i am SURE people would still be in for it..</div>
No reason to do this though. The only other consideration that may be made is a bracket to brace the engine or to the firewall.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hotrod @ Sep 20 2006, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Add me in for front strut bar only (polished). Finally a strutbar for airram compatible
</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mister_Sinister @ Sep 20 2006, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm in fo shizzle! Front AND rear!</div>
As soon as you guys put your info as in the first post, I'll add you to the list.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zoned019 @ Sep 20 2006, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can we get something a bit beefier? That looks pussy..</div>
You want a strutbar for looks, go elsewhere. The "Beefy" strut bars are usually hollow or have big cavities under the bar to lighten them. A circular tube will work perfectly. It'll be plenty thick, Viper, you guys should know, is NOT known for doing stuff half assed or short term.
For more info on bars...
http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/strutcompare.htm
Here is what they say about theirs...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Road Race Supercharger Strut Bar
This is a single tube strut bar. It will more than meet your needs to stiffen flex between front struts. One bolt design withstands 2200 lbs of stress across front struts. It is a rally spec bar and way stiffer that those bolt together TAIWAN strut bars! If you drive harder than that, we will build you a custom strut bar! Bar comes powder coated. If you want an over-engineered, over priced stress bar, I'm sure you can find one. FITS BOTH 4 and 6 cylinder! SILVER & RED colors only.
129.00</div>
One last thing for everyone talking about "BEEFIER".
Almost every strut bar out there that you see, all the beefy ones (To include my current strut bar), are aluminum.
The RRM style in the picture is steel.
Guess I should sell my current bar.
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Glad you mentioned that.
If you would have done it earlier, I bet nobody would be asking for anything beefier.
BUT we'll see how my money situation ends up, I was supposed to get a student loan check which never came..and I don't have a job yet. I'm heading to the financial aid office tomorrow, i'm already broke. LOL.
zoned019, Both, (Polished preferred, Red is okay too)
If you would have done it earlier, I bet nobody would be asking for anything beefier.
BUT we'll see how my money situation ends up, I was supposed to get a student loan check which never came..and I don't have a job yet. I'm heading to the financial aid office tomorrow, i'm already broke. LOL.
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Redz, read what you wrote:
"Even BETTER news, <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">is if this goes well</span></span>, he MAY do a complimentary set for the back, again in ONE piece. "
This implies that the rear bars would be produced after the front ones. But you signed up for both, so I was confused on whether they are being produced at the same time or not. Infact, I still don't have an answer.
Viper, please consider making centre bars too. There is obviously a demand. I can't see them being too difficult to make, compared to the fronts and rears. Although I prefer speed to looks, I like my things to match. I don't want bars that look different because it will bug me like crazy. If you can make a set of 3 (or even make less then 10 centre bars for those of us that want them), I would be on this FOR SURE.
"Even BETTER news, <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">is if this goes well</span></span>, he MAY do a complimentary set for the back, again in ONE piece. "
This implies that the rear bars would be produced after the front ones. But you signed up for both, so I was confused on whether they are being produced at the same time or not. Infact, I still don't have an answer.
Viper, please consider making centre bars too. There is obviously a demand. I can't see them being too difficult to make, compared to the fronts and rears. Although I prefer speed to looks, I like my things to match. I don't want bars that look different because it will bug me like crazy. If you can make a set of 3 (or even make less then 10 centre bars for those of us that want them), I would be on this FOR SURE.
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Center bars don't really do much for your flex anyway. With a bar in the front and rear, the car will be plenty stiff. Also, be considerate to your passengers. As it is our backseat makes people lean over so they don't bounce their head on the hatch, now you're trying to take away their foot room with a center bar too! lmao.gif
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guys its been said more than once center bars ARE NOT being considered. Get the one on ebay. works great. Oh, and noone can see three bars at once and noone will care. If thats a problem buy the kspec ones. those all match. have fun spending like $300 or whatever the set is though
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Crimson @ Sep 20 2006, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This implies that the rear bars would be produced after the front ones. But you signed up for both, so I was confused on whether they are being produced at the same time or not. Infact, I still don't have an answer.</div>
It doesn't imply anything, it says it directly. IF this goes well, then he MAY. This directly tells you that if this buy goes well, he MAY do the rears.
Since this is just an INTREST THREAD right now, then we are showing intrest for BOTH. Why waste time with another thread? So, your answer has been there from the start.
<span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%">STOP FILLING UP THIS THREAD WITH WORTHLESS POSTS FOLKS.</span> Warnings will be issued for further posts about CENTER BARS, or anything else already discussed. You guys wonder why some of these GB's never finish, it's because you are too goddamned lazy to read or too stupid to understand what's been said. NO MORE.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Viper, please consider making centre bars too. There is obviously a demand. I can't see them being too difficult to make, compared to the fronts and rears.</div>
He's not considering it. Discussion is done. Maybe at a later time, but with the price of the beefy ones that work perfect on ebay, don't count on it. No one said anything about difficulty.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Although I prefer speed to looks, I like my things to match. I don't want bars that look different because it will bug me like crazy. If you can make a set of 3 (or even make less then 10 centre bars for those of us that want them), I would be on this FOR SURE.</div>
You obviously haven't seen the universal one on Ebay. It'll match these perfectly. Take some time, go look, and shut up about the center bars.
Don't post in here again unless it's about coming into the buy or a valid question. Damn.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zoned019 @ Sep 20 2006, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Center bars don't really do much for your flex anyway. With a bar in the front and rear, the car will be plenty stiff. Also, be considerate to your passengers. As it is our backseat makes people lean over so they don't bounce their head on the hatch, now you're trying to take away their foot room with a center bar too! lmao.gif</div>
Exactly. Remember, only reason these bars are being made is that there are NO airram compatible strut bars easily accessable right now.
NONE.
If there were, this wouldn't be happening. Only reason the backs are being considered is because the current flimsy ones sold by Kspec and other sites don't let your rear seat backs lock in place.
The universal center bar that is on Ebay fits perfectly, and lets passengers sit in the back.
It doesn't imply anything, it says it directly. IF this goes well, then he MAY. This directly tells you that if this buy goes well, he MAY do the rears.
Since this is just an INTREST THREAD right now, then we are showing intrest for BOTH. Why waste time with another thread? So, your answer has been there from the start.
<span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%">STOP FILLING UP THIS THREAD WITH WORTHLESS POSTS FOLKS.</span> Warnings will be issued for further posts about CENTER BARS, or anything else already discussed. You guys wonder why some of these GB's never finish, it's because you are too goddamned lazy to read or too stupid to understand what's been said. NO MORE.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Viper, please consider making centre bars too. There is obviously a demand. I can't see them being too difficult to make, compared to the fronts and rears.</div>
He's not considering it. Discussion is done. Maybe at a later time, but with the price of the beefy ones that work perfect on ebay, don't count on it. No one said anything about difficulty.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Although I prefer speed to looks, I like my things to match. I don't want bars that look different because it will bug me like crazy. If you can make a set of 3 (or even make less then 10 centre bars for those of us that want them), I would be on this FOR SURE.</div>
You obviously haven't seen the universal one on Ebay. It'll match these perfectly. Take some time, go look, and shut up about the center bars.
Don't post in here again unless it's about coming into the buy or a valid question. Damn.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zoned019 @ Sep 20 2006, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Center bars don't really do much for your flex anyway. With a bar in the front and rear, the car will be plenty stiff. Also, be considerate to your passengers. As it is our backseat makes people lean over so they don't bounce their head on the hatch, now you're trying to take away their foot room with a center bar too! lmao.gif</div>
Exactly. Remember, only reason these bars are being made is that there are NO airram compatible strut bars easily accessable right now.
NONE.
If there were, this wouldn't be happening. Only reason the backs are being considered is because the current flimsy ones sold by Kspec and other sites don't let your rear seat backs lock in place.
The universal center bar that is on Ebay fits perfectly, and lets passengers sit in the back.
