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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Okay so it finally was not below zero, and I had a day off work, so I spent a little time messing with the car.

I can't move the arm by hand, it takes way too much pressure. What can I use to do this?

Is there anyone who can tell me some simple things I can do to diagnose the problem? I'm clueless. How can I test if it is the throwout bearing or the slave cylinder? I think that's the first thing I need to do is determine if the problem is inside the tranny or not. Because if it is, I'll probably just buy a new transmission, since the whole thing will have to come out anyway.

Some troubleshooting techniques please!
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:13 AM
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You need a helper for this. Be sure the clutch fluid reservoir is full. With the engine off, push the clutch pedal. If the slave cylinder does not extend then the hydraulics are bad or something is bound up in the throwout portion of the clutch. Take the slave cylinder off the throwout arm and see if it will extend now, when you press the pedal. If it does, either the hydraulics are very weak or you need to separate the engine and transaxle and see WTF is going on in there.

If the slave extends, jack up one front wheel. With the transaxle in (any) gear and the pedal depressed, the drive wheel now off the ground should be able to be turned by hand. If it does not, the clutch has not released. If the wheel turns by hand, let the pedal out again. The wheel should now not be able to be turned by hand. That is the normal operation check you should do after replacing your clutch, by the way.

If that check fails, you need to separate the engine and transaxle and see WTF is going on in there.

Have I got that right guys?
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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TOB moved off the fork

thats what it sounds like and if it is good luck. i just had this happen to me
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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Stocker, I can see the cylinder extending, but how do I know if it is extending far enough?

Optimoprime, I remember reading your thread, didn't you just do a beta 2 tranny swap recently? Can you still get trannies for that cheap from that junkyard (you got yours for 150 right)?

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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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I can't imagine his TOB popping off the fork like that. Notice he said that the pedal got soft, and didn't say it's stuck to the floor. With the tiburon's pull type pressure plate, it would stick to the floor if it slipped off, since the pp diaphragm spring is actually what gives the pedal most of its return springyness. Maybe you had a catastrophic bearing-type failure of the TOB, and it's just got a whole lot of slop in it now. That could definitely give it some grinding/pulsing feeling with the clutch pressed in, and not allow your clutch to disengage.

At any rate, you need to get the trans off to see wtf is happening in there.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Also, I only felt the vibration that one time. Since then, when you push the clutch in I feel nothing. It is noticably easier to depress the pedal, but there is no vibration.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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QUOTE (AGreen @ Jan 26 2009, 06:56 PM)
At any rate, you need to get the trans off to see wtf is happening in there.


You may be noticing a trend in the responses here . . . lmao.gif
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (zoned019 @ Jan 26 2009, 10:11 AM)
Stocker, I can see the cylinder extending, but how do I know if it is extending far enough?

Optimoprime, I remember reading your thread, didn't you just do a beta 2 tranny swap recently? Can you still get trannies for that cheap from that junkyard (you got yours for 150 right)?

Thanks

Here's the information you wanted in video form. The video is still processing, you tube takes a few minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InZgxjuUgEw



If the throwout bearing popped out, you'd have one good no-resistance push of the pedal, then it would go right back up to the top and be stiff as a board. I've had this happen with a XTD clutch because the pressure plate spring was loose.

If you've got air in the lines it wouldn't move much and it would be easy to press the clutch.


what's the update on the situation?
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