2000 Elantra (timing Questions)
Hi guys;
So this morning we starting putting things back together after NOT being able to get the crank pulley bolt to break loose. This afternoon we finally get everything back together (due to my friend putting the wrong bolts in the pulleys for the water pump and it not turning lol), and start the car up. It doesnt sound very good, a squeaking belt is heard at first, but tightening up the alternator quickly made that go away. Afterwords, we start it back up and it idled at 1k, and then started dropping back down, but we shut it down quickly due to the car not revving. When the car is running, it sounds like the timing has been retarded, and when you rev it up it halfway dies.
It doesnt make sense since we took the extra steps of marking lines on both the belt and the cam sprocket, just to ensure that we got it back to where it needs to be. The only thing that was changed (since we couldnt get the crank bolt to break to change the belt and whatnot) was the tensioner.
Is there any way to reset the timing? I have a timing light, but working on imports is not my forte and I would have to have my dad show me how to use the timing light anyway. The cam was not turned at all while the belt was off, neither was the crank. The only time either was turned was when the belt was still on, and so they both turned at the same rate at the same time.
Any help would be much appreciated so I can get his car out of my driveway, since I already lost a days pay mad.gif lol
Update:
So my friend apparently watched my dad when he was setting the timing on my truck, and went ahead and checked the timing on his car. If he is correct, the timing is 45 degrees off. Would it be as simple as pulling the belt and turning the cam CLOCKWISE 45 degrees? Or would turning it clockwise be removing timing (like turning a distributor clockwise on a SBC v8 would REMOVE timing)? Never dealt with anything like this before, so your input would help greatly. Thanks!
So this morning we starting putting things back together after NOT being able to get the crank pulley bolt to break loose. This afternoon we finally get everything back together (due to my friend putting the wrong bolts in the pulleys for the water pump and it not turning lol), and start the car up. It doesnt sound very good, a squeaking belt is heard at first, but tightening up the alternator quickly made that go away. Afterwords, we start it back up and it idled at 1k, and then started dropping back down, but we shut it down quickly due to the car not revving. When the car is running, it sounds like the timing has been retarded, and when you rev it up it halfway dies.
It doesnt make sense since we took the extra steps of marking lines on both the belt and the cam sprocket, just to ensure that we got it back to where it needs to be. The only thing that was changed (since we couldnt get the crank bolt to break to change the belt and whatnot) was the tensioner.
Is there any way to reset the timing? I have a timing light, but working on imports is not my forte and I would have to have my dad show me how to use the timing light anyway. The cam was not turned at all while the belt was off, neither was the crank. The only time either was turned was when the belt was still on, and so they both turned at the same rate at the same time.
Any help would be much appreciated so I can get his car out of my driveway, since I already lost a days pay mad.gif lol
Update:
So my friend apparently watched my dad when he was setting the timing on my truck, and went ahead and checked the timing on his car. If he is correct, the timing is 45 degrees off. Would it be as simple as pulling the belt and turning the cam CLOCKWISE 45 degrees? Or would turning it clockwise be removing timing (like turning a distributor clockwise on a SBC v8 would REMOVE timing)? Never dealt with anything like this before, so your input would help greatly. Thanks!
QUOTE (majikTib @ Jul 16 2007, 02:30 PM)
when you say, "putting things back together" ... what were you doing? What did you replace or remove?
We started by taking all the accessories off (well he did, I worked on my own engine lol), then pulled the belts. Since we couldnt get the bolt to break loose on the crank, to get the pulley off, he decided to leave the belt on there (since it looked good, no fraying/cracking). Saturday (when we started the project) while trying to get the crank bolt out, the engine kept turning. So we tried stopping it from turning with an extension (NEVER EVER had this happen on any car that I have worked on, nor has my dad (to whom I learned it from), but of course, never had to use the cam sprocket before to keep an engine from turning, always used accessories), and ended up breaking one of the legs in the cam sprocket. Went to the salvage yard this morning and got a replacement and put it on. Marked the exact same place on the new one as the old one, and also marked the belt before taking it off the broken one. I cant see how it would take the timing out of it, since the belt was put onto the new sprocket in the exact same spot as on the old one. The only thing I can think of is when the tensioner was put in, when moved against the belt maybe it rotated the cam while taking the slack out of the belt???



