what the status on the beta 1 s/c kit?
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what the status on the beta 1 s/c kit?
there are a few of us over at hp.com wondering what the status of the kit is? did the unichip get fixed yet? can we still keep our warrenty? what's the deal with it all?
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First off, please accept my apologies for not replying in my normal timely manner. We have expanded our facilities and are re-organizing and getting our "house in order" while still trying to answer the hundreds of e-mail inquiries we're continually receiving daily.
Here's the latest update on where these applications are at now:
1.8L/2.0L (I4--BETA-I / BETA II engines) Hyundai--`96-`01 Tiburon/`96-`00 Elantra Turbo w/Intercooler Kit
The Turbo w/intercooler kit has been meticulously engineered for optimum performance and reliability, and designed to be bolted on to a stock engine, with no other modifications needed or required. The suggested retail price is $2800 plus shipping from Southern California. This system uses a Mitsubishi TD04H-15T turbo, and includes the exhaust manifold with built-in wastegate, fifth fuel injector, fuel pressure regulator, a front-mount air-to-air intercooler and plumbing, and all the required parts and mounting hardware, plus a "Unichip" controller (already pre-set) to work with your Engine Control Module to maximize performance (electrical wiring is required), and will work on MAP engines (except you will need to purchase 2 head gaskets for the decompression plate supplied). All kits are pre-assembled as far as possible.
Performance improvements for the turbo kit are approximately 75+ HP & 90+ ft/lbs of torque "to-the-wheels" @ 10 lbs./psi boost. (1.8L figures will be lower due to lower baseline figures, but the percentage of increase should be the same.) Dyno charts on U.S vehicles will be available soon. Our systems as an aftermarket item, carries a "1-Year / Unlimited Mileage Warranty "against defects in materials and workmanship.
Turbo Kit Updates as of 02/10/03
1) We are working on the re-location of the first catalytic converter (or sourcing a smaller replacement cat) for CARB certification.
2) We have been evaluating the mapping of the Unichip, and possible alternatives for ECU management for both the Beta I and Beta II engines, along with trying to simplify the kit. We anticipate having a solution by the end of February, and being able to implement in March.
3) Having discovered no opening large enough in the front of our `03 Elantra (applies to `01-to-`03) to plumb the intercooler piping, have made the decision to re-design and convert to our "AQUA-COOLED" liquid-to-air intercooler, and should aide in getting CARB approval (if cat issue can be resolved).
4) If catalytic and CARB issues can be resolved with the new "re-engineered Aqua-cooled" version, will make the decision to either discontinue the original "air-to-air" version, or decide to offer as a separate application.
5) Once the basic kit is ready, will re-evaluate the price of the kit, and plan to look into development of "stage one", and possible "stage two" upgrades.
6) This kit was recently re-tuned and dyno'd on our Dyna-Pak wheel dyno, on a `99 Tiburon (BETA I-engine w/over 60,000 miles on it, using 91 octane gas--no front cat) and got 180.6-HP and 198.9-ft/lbs of torque "to-the-wheels" at 11-lbs/psi of boost! This was our first kit ever installed in the U.S. (July of `01)!
1.8L/2.0L (I4--BETA I engine) `96-`01 Hyundai--Tiburon/`96-`00--Elantra Supercharger Kit
Our supercharger system also has a suggested retail price of $2800 uses the Eaton MP45 (4th gen.) "roots type" blower, and comes with an additional fuel injector, fuel pressure regulator, belt, hardware and everything else needed, plus a "Unichip" controller (already pre-set) to work with your Engine Control Module to maximize performance (electrical wiring is required), and will work on both MAP and MAF engines, without any other modifications required. All kits are pre-assembled as far as possible.
The supercharged kit improvements are 40+ HP & 50+ torque @ 4 lbs./psi boost (PLEASE NOTE: These are S.African vehicles tested with 97 octane gas, and no smog devices--U.S. vehicles increases will be slightly lower, and will update as soon as we've tested here). 1.8L figures will be lower due to lower baseline figures, but the percentage of increase should be the same--engine has a different bore & stroke. Dyno charts on U.S vehicles will be available soon.
The supercharger system has not been CARB certified yet, but are waiting to set up an appointment, and should pass testing and receive approval within the next couple of months (making it retroactively applicable to any kits sold prior to certification). We are in talks with Hyundai now, and as soon as each (both turbo and supercharger) is CARB certified, and with their approval, plans are to notify all of their dealers as to the availability of these kits (as a possible dealer installed option), and that it will not void any factory warranties. Our systems as an aftermarket item, carries a "1-Year / Unlimited Mileage Warranty "against defects in materials and workmanship.
Supercharger Kit Updates as of 02/10/03
1) After trying to "test fit" on our `03 Elantra, have discovered that the (I4) BETA II engines are using a slightly different intake manifold and different fuel injectors (among other things), and have made the decision to tool up a new intake manifold for the `01-`03 Elantra/`02-`03 Tiburon, and anticipate it's availability around March.
2) Our 2000 "Test mule" Tiburon is still undergoing tuning sessions and have been exploring alternative ECU management as well. We expect to have sorted out, and ready for CARB testing in March.
3) Once the basic kit is re-engineered for both Beta I and Beta II engines, will re-evaluate the price of the kit, and plan to look into development of "stage one", and possible "stage two" upgrades.
Literature
My apologies, but I have been waiting until we have complete information and images (including dynos on U.S. vehicles) on each application available before committing literature to print. We have chosen an agency to handle our literature and press releases (King-Tec Communications--same people who created AEM's and Greddy's catalogs and literature) and anticipate having some literature ready by March, and may be able to get you (electronically) the files on each flyer prior to printing.
Shipping & Packaging
We are now using Fed-Ex Ground Service as our regular carrier, and have found them to offer not only better care and handling of our products, but in most cases, are less expensive than UPS. All shipments will be insured at their retail value. All of our systems are shipped complete in one box (typically 28"x 18"x 18" w/hand-grip cutouts), and average in weight between 50-to-90-lbs, with custom Styrofoam packaging to insure our products arrive intact.
Warranty
All of our non-CARB approved applications carry a "1-Year / Unlimited Mileage" warranty against defects in materials and workmanship (unless otherwise specified). Any omission or addition of parts, deviation or modification to our kit from its original intent, design, and installation instructions, or any additional modifications that may affect the performance and reliability of our kit as intended, will void this warranty.
We are still hammering out the fine print at this point in time, but anticipate having a "3-Year / 36,000 Mile Power Train" backed by Dell Financial Services (same people who back GM's warranties) in place before the end of January. A Dell Financial representative or an "Authorized Alpine Developments Installation Facility" (which we are aggressively setting up across the country now) will be the only ones who can sign off on this. This may include and cover "official" upgrades from Alpine Developments . Details on this will be forwarded to you when this has been finalized.
Even more good news...we will be offering an optional "extended warranty" on the basic kit (no modifications at all). The consumer will have up to the full 3-years or 36,000 miles to decide if they wish to purchase this extended power train warranty, that will match the remaining factory power train warranty as long as the vehicle has less than 50,000 miles on it. (The price for this will vary depending on the length of the factory warranty being matched, but don't anticipate it being more than an extra $200-to-$300.) The details of this are not all set yet, but as with the other warranty, will have to be "signed off" by a Dell Financial representative, or "Authorized Alpine Developments Installation Facility". We should have all this in place by the end of February, and should be available to existing owners! Unfortunately, any upgrades (even our own "official" upgrades) will not be covered by this extended warranty package. Again, details on this will be forwarded to you when this has been finalized as well.
Upgrades?
Once each of the basic kits have been (re-)engineered (with fitments for various other models with same engine), and has been CARB tested, approved and ready for production, we plan to develop our own "stage one" and possible "stage two" upgrades that will both safely and reliably increase the performance of each application. We won't know what these upgrades will consist of until they are developed, but as long as they are "official" upgrades from S.A. Alpine Developments, they will not void our "3-Year / 36,000 Mile Power Train" warranty.
How to Purchase
We are in the process of aggressively setting up distributors, dealers, and "authorized" installation facilities across the U.S.and Canada, along with distributors in Central and S. America. Please contact us again, letting us know where you live, and we'll be more than happy to supply you with a list of current facilities that carry our products. Due to the popularity of these new applications, if you are interested, please keep in contact with us as lead times are changing constantly while we are getting settled in over here in our new offices. If you are serious about wanting a kit for your vehicle, and wish to purchase direct from Alpine, we would require a 50% deposit to order now, with balance due before shipping from our Southern California facility to your location. Payments for product can be pre-paid by sending a cashiers check or money order, or we can accept credit cards by phone or fax, or through Pay-Pal ( http://www.x.com ) to our account at: sbelanger@alpine-developments.us .
Don't hesitate to contact us if you have any other questions or concerns. Again, thank you for your interest. We look forward to hearing back from you soon.
Stephen M. Belanger
Sales & Marketing
S.A. Alpine Developments, Inc.
7581 Acacia Avenue
Garden Grove, Ca. 92841
sbelanger@alpine-developments.us
www.alpine-developments.co.za
Ph (714) 379-8066
Fx (714) 379-8166
Here's the latest update on where these applications are at now:
1.8L/2.0L (I4--BETA-I / BETA II engines) Hyundai--`96-`01 Tiburon/`96-`00 Elantra Turbo w/Intercooler Kit
The Turbo w/intercooler kit has been meticulously engineered for optimum performance and reliability, and designed to be bolted on to a stock engine, with no other modifications needed or required. The suggested retail price is $2800 plus shipping from Southern California. This system uses a Mitsubishi TD04H-15T turbo, and includes the exhaust manifold with built-in wastegate, fifth fuel injector, fuel pressure regulator, a front-mount air-to-air intercooler and plumbing, and all the required parts and mounting hardware, plus a "Unichip" controller (already pre-set) to work with your Engine Control Module to maximize performance (electrical wiring is required), and will work on MAP engines (except you will need to purchase 2 head gaskets for the decompression plate supplied). All kits are pre-assembled as far as possible.
Performance improvements for the turbo kit are approximately 75+ HP & 90+ ft/lbs of torque "to-the-wheels" @ 10 lbs./psi boost. (1.8L figures will be lower due to lower baseline figures, but the percentage of increase should be the same.) Dyno charts on U.S vehicles will be available soon. Our systems as an aftermarket item, carries a "1-Year / Unlimited Mileage Warranty "against defects in materials and workmanship.
Turbo Kit Updates as of 02/10/03
1) We are working on the re-location of the first catalytic converter (or sourcing a smaller replacement cat) for CARB certification.
2) We have been evaluating the mapping of the Unichip, and possible alternatives for ECU management for both the Beta I and Beta II engines, along with trying to simplify the kit. We anticipate having a solution by the end of February, and being able to implement in March.
3) Having discovered no opening large enough in the front of our `03 Elantra (applies to `01-to-`03) to plumb the intercooler piping, have made the decision to re-design and convert to our "AQUA-COOLED" liquid-to-air intercooler, and should aide in getting CARB approval (if cat issue can be resolved).
4) If catalytic and CARB issues can be resolved with the new "re-engineered Aqua-cooled" version, will make the decision to either discontinue the original "air-to-air" version, or decide to offer as a separate application.
5) Once the basic kit is ready, will re-evaluate the price of the kit, and plan to look into development of "stage one", and possible "stage two" upgrades.
6) This kit was recently re-tuned and dyno'd on our Dyna-Pak wheel dyno, on a `99 Tiburon (BETA I-engine w/over 60,000 miles on it, using 91 octane gas--no front cat) and got 180.6-HP and 198.9-ft/lbs of torque "to-the-wheels" at 11-lbs/psi of boost! This was our first kit ever installed in the U.S. (July of `01)!
1.8L/2.0L (I4--BETA I engine) `96-`01 Hyundai--Tiburon/`96-`00--Elantra Supercharger Kit
Our supercharger system also has a suggested retail price of $2800 uses the Eaton MP45 (4th gen.) "roots type" blower, and comes with an additional fuel injector, fuel pressure regulator, belt, hardware and everything else needed, plus a "Unichip" controller (already pre-set) to work with your Engine Control Module to maximize performance (electrical wiring is required), and will work on both MAP and MAF engines, without any other modifications required. All kits are pre-assembled as far as possible.
The supercharged kit improvements are 40+ HP & 50+ torque @ 4 lbs./psi boost (PLEASE NOTE: These are S.African vehicles tested with 97 octane gas, and no smog devices--U.S. vehicles increases will be slightly lower, and will update as soon as we've tested here). 1.8L figures will be lower due to lower baseline figures, but the percentage of increase should be the same--engine has a different bore & stroke. Dyno charts on U.S vehicles will be available soon.
The supercharger system has not been CARB certified yet, but are waiting to set up an appointment, and should pass testing and receive approval within the next couple of months (making it retroactively applicable to any kits sold prior to certification). We are in talks with Hyundai now, and as soon as each (both turbo and supercharger) is CARB certified, and with their approval, plans are to notify all of their dealers as to the availability of these kits (as a possible dealer installed option), and that it will not void any factory warranties. Our systems as an aftermarket item, carries a "1-Year / Unlimited Mileage Warranty "against defects in materials and workmanship.
Supercharger Kit Updates as of 02/10/03
1) After trying to "test fit" on our `03 Elantra, have discovered that the (I4) BETA II engines are using a slightly different intake manifold and different fuel injectors (among other things), and have made the decision to tool up a new intake manifold for the `01-`03 Elantra/`02-`03 Tiburon, and anticipate it's availability around March.
2) Our 2000 "Test mule" Tiburon is still undergoing tuning sessions and have been exploring alternative ECU management as well. We expect to have sorted out, and ready for CARB testing in March.
3) Once the basic kit is re-engineered for both Beta I and Beta II engines, will re-evaluate the price of the kit, and plan to look into development of "stage one", and possible "stage two" upgrades.
Literature
My apologies, but I have been waiting until we have complete information and images (including dynos on U.S. vehicles) on each application available before committing literature to print. We have chosen an agency to handle our literature and press releases (King-Tec Communications--same people who created AEM's and Greddy's catalogs and literature) and anticipate having some literature ready by March, and may be able to get you (electronically) the files on each flyer prior to printing.
Shipping & Packaging
We are now using Fed-Ex Ground Service as our regular carrier, and have found them to offer not only better care and handling of our products, but in most cases, are less expensive than UPS. All shipments will be insured at their retail value. All of our systems are shipped complete in one box (typically 28"x 18"x 18" w/hand-grip cutouts), and average in weight between 50-to-90-lbs, with custom Styrofoam packaging to insure our products arrive intact.
Warranty
All of our non-CARB approved applications carry a "1-Year / Unlimited Mileage" warranty against defects in materials and workmanship (unless otherwise specified). Any omission or addition of parts, deviation or modification to our kit from its original intent, design, and installation instructions, or any additional modifications that may affect the performance and reliability of our kit as intended, will void this warranty.
We are still hammering out the fine print at this point in time, but anticipate having a "3-Year / 36,000 Mile Power Train" backed by Dell Financial Services (same people who back GM's warranties) in place before the end of January. A Dell Financial representative or an "Authorized Alpine Developments Installation Facility" (which we are aggressively setting up across the country now) will be the only ones who can sign off on this. This may include and cover "official" upgrades from Alpine Developments . Details on this will be forwarded to you when this has been finalized.
Even more good news...we will be offering an optional "extended warranty" on the basic kit (no modifications at all). The consumer will have up to the full 3-years or 36,000 miles to decide if they wish to purchase this extended power train warranty, that will match the remaining factory power train warranty as long as the vehicle has less than 50,000 miles on it. (The price for this will vary depending on the length of the factory warranty being matched, but don't anticipate it being more than an extra $200-to-$300.) The details of this are not all set yet, but as with the other warranty, will have to be "signed off" by a Dell Financial representative, or "Authorized Alpine Developments Installation Facility". We should have all this in place by the end of February, and should be available to existing owners! Unfortunately, any upgrades (even our own "official" upgrades) will not be covered by this extended warranty package. Again, details on this will be forwarded to you when this has been finalized as well.
Upgrades?
Once each of the basic kits have been (re-)engineered (with fitments for various other models with same engine), and has been CARB tested, approved and ready for production, we plan to develop our own "stage one" and possible "stage two" upgrades that will both safely and reliably increase the performance of each application. We won't know what these upgrades will consist of until they are developed, but as long as they are "official" upgrades from S.A. Alpine Developments, they will not void our "3-Year / 36,000 Mile Power Train" warranty.
How to Purchase
We are in the process of aggressively setting up distributors, dealers, and "authorized" installation facilities across the U.S.and Canada, along with distributors in Central and S. America. Please contact us again, letting us know where you live, and we'll be more than happy to supply you with a list of current facilities that carry our products. Due to the popularity of these new applications, if you are interested, please keep in contact with us as lead times are changing constantly while we are getting settled in over here in our new offices. If you are serious about wanting a kit for your vehicle, and wish to purchase direct from Alpine, we would require a 50% deposit to order now, with balance due before shipping from our Southern California facility to your location. Payments for product can be pre-paid by sending a cashiers check or money order, or we can accept credit cards by phone or fax, or through Pay-Pal ( http://www.x.com ) to our account at: sbelanger@alpine-developments.us .
Don't hesitate to contact us if you have any other questions or concerns. Again, thank you for your interest. We look forward to hearing back from you soon.
Stephen M. Belanger
Sales & Marketing
S.A. Alpine Developments, Inc.
7581 Acacia Avenue
Garden Grove, Ca. 92841
sbelanger@alpine-developments.us
www.alpine-developments.co.za
Ph (714) 379-8066
Fx (714) 379-8166
