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^^ Yup, could not get through their voice-recognition automated system. Gave up after 10 minutes of saying No, Yes, Main Menu...
If I get no answer to my email I'll have to call back the stupid machine.
If I get no answer to my email I'll have to call back the stupid machine.
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From: Los Lunas, New Mexico, USA.
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Well that's the thing Brake. if he refunded you but PAYPAL refunded him because it looked like a fraudulent transaction, WTF is THEIR deal? It's not Rick's fault that they did it.
I'm not standing up for him, I'm out more money than all of you combined, but Paypal has been known to do stuff like that.
I'm not standing up for him, I'm out more money than all of you combined, but Paypal has been known to do stuff like that.
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From: Montreal, Qc, Canada
Redz is right, I would like to know what triggered this situation at Paypal.
Did they choose to revert the transaction themselves because they saw multiple refund operation for a single (REAL) account?
Or did they receive a call from REAL to cancel the refunds?
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Ok, just called PayPal. Here is what the guy explained to me.
It's actually Paypal that decided to hold these funds (mine, 01importshark, etc.) because they have reasons to think the money used to refund us was obtained fraudulently.
For example, I paid REAL 780USD. After that, they could have spent the 780USD and got another 500USD by selling stuff and never sending products. If my 180USD refund and 01import's 200USD were initiated using any of the 500USD, they will be considered obtained fraudulently.
He could not tell me a timeframe for the resolution of this problem or why it is under investigation. I guess they have received a lot of buyer complaints and they fear that we were refunded using this money, thus making our refund illegal (like my example above).
Only time will tell.
Btw, does anyone know how to contact the "new" REAL Engineering entity?
Did they choose to revert the transaction themselves because they saw multiple refund operation for a single (REAL) account?
Or did they receive a call from REAL to cancel the refunds?
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Ok, just called PayPal. Here is what the guy explained to me.
It's actually Paypal that decided to hold these funds (mine, 01importshark, etc.) because they have reasons to think the money used to refund us was obtained fraudulently.
For example, I paid REAL 780USD. After that, they could have spent the 780USD and got another 500USD by selling stuff and never sending products. If my 180USD refund and 01import's 200USD were initiated using any of the 500USD, they will be considered obtained fraudulently.
He could not tell me a timeframe for the resolution of this problem or why it is under investigation. I guess they have received a lot of buyer complaints and they fear that we were refunded using this money, thus making our refund illegal (like my example above).
Only time will tell.
Btw, does anyone know how to contact the "new" REAL Engineering entity?
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From: Dayton, OH
QUOTE (REDZMAN @ Dec 12 2005, 05:30 PM)
Well that's the thing Brake. if he refunded you but PAYPAL refunded him because it looked like a fraudulent transaction, WTF is THEIR deal? It's not Rick's fault that they did it.
I'm not standing up for him, I'm out more money than all of you combined, but Paypal has been known to do stuff like that.
I'm not standing up for him, I'm out more money than all of you combined, but Paypal has been known to do stuff like that.
The prob is, I never got a refund. It looks like only 2 or 3 doodes did.
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From: Montreal, Qc, Canada
Just received an email from PayPal :
The refund I received has just been reverted and cash is sent back to REAL.
I just sent another Request Money to Artec/Real Engineering. I'll send one each day if needed.
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We have conducted a review of a payment that you received. In this case, returning the funds to the sender was determined to be the appropriate action, and we have completed a reversal of the payment. Good selling practices, like trackable shipping, prompt shipment, and communication between buyer and seller help prevent disputes.
The refund I received has just been reverted and cash is sent back to REAL.
I just sent another Request Money to Artec/Real Engineering. I'll send one each day if needed.
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same thign happened to me bro, only it was a week or so after i had money, which i transferred to my bank, then spent it.. now i have negative 193.50 in my paypal account, which is bullshit..
i am going to prob. just cancel my paypal account, remove bank account and credit cards from there and let paypal be f***ed over.. not my problem.. i spent money that i received, so they CANT take that back.
i am going to prob. just cancel my paypal account, remove bank account and credit cards from there and let paypal be f***ed over.. not my problem.. i spent money that i received, so they CANT take that back.
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From: Montreal, Qc, Canada
Yeah, I transfered it to my bank account too, -213CAD in my Paypal. But I didn't spend it yet.
I'm wondering what are the legal actions they have at their disposition if you do that? I'll go check the agreement...
I'm wondering what are the legal actions they have at their disposition if you do that? I'll go check the agreement...
