S-AFC vs SMT-6
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well as far as my plans go, i plan on building a setup that will be running on stock internals for a year or so.. so i'll be starting out small.. boosting about 7 psi daily driving and at most 10 psi on the track. But once pistons get inthere then i'll be boosting to around 14 ... in the end i dont see myself going past 16 or so.. im not going to hardcore.. but i know ppl are goingn to tell me that everyone says that and ends up going hardcore after they taste boost..
but yea right now i just want to get started and even though i run 7 psi i know im not gonna need an SAFC or such but i want to have it anyways and be ready to up the boost.
but yea right now i just want to get started and even though i run 7 psi i know im not gonna need an SAFC or such but i want to have it anyways and be ready to up the boost.
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like it was told..
only advantage i can see to the safc are the looks and the fact that's it's a bit simplier to set-up/work with
to reprogram the smt-6 you could just take the unit of the car and program it with your desk top by hooking up the smt to a 12 volts power source.
I've used both on my car, both worked well on the fuel side for my N/A set-up (minor adjustements)
but you have much more function with the SMT
with the safc. .you have a low and a high fuel value.. and the unit "guess" what the engine need between those 2 points (see Agarwal's safc plotter)
with the smt6 you can set up the correction for each point of rpm and tps (or map) to the one you want ..i've seen a few engine having a dip or spike in fuel requirements so the smt is better on this part
the smt can also clamp the MAF signal (low and high value) so the ecu won't see if you maxed out the MAF sensor
you could simply use the smt6 with larger injectors on a turbo sytem and cheat the maf values and still retard the timing
or run additional injectors and make the car think it'S stock while not in boost
you could use it to activate nitrous based on rpm,coolant temp,tps position
you could even activate nitrous in a progressive manner
smt6 versus e-manage..
with the smt6 you get the unit itself,the program,the harness wich does,fuel tuner, extra injector,timing,switch control....
with the e-manage you get a basic box with 5 dials on it and the "basic" harness" you need to get the EIC harness, timing harness program,....
on my car i'm doing some timing adjustements without problems, (usufull with cams now)i did get a crank sensor code in the beginning, but it might not be related to the smt, i need ot check a few thing first and if it's because of the way i wired it. .i can wire it another way wich should get the code away
basicly i feel the smt6 is the next best thing to a reprogramemd ECU or standalone
in the worst case.. if you NEED a safc for looks get the rev/speed meter or the AVCR boost controler. .at least they will be usefull,don't get me wrong, the SAFC is a good unit, but you can reach it's limits quite fast even on a basic N/A motor
only advantage i can see to the safc are the looks and the fact that's it's a bit simplier to set-up/work with
to reprogram the smt-6 you could just take the unit of the car and program it with your desk top by hooking up the smt to a 12 volts power source.
I've used both on my car, both worked well on the fuel side for my N/A set-up (minor adjustements)
but you have much more function with the SMT
with the safc. .you have a low and a high fuel value.. and the unit "guess" what the engine need between those 2 points (see Agarwal's safc plotter)
with the smt6 you can set up the correction for each point of rpm and tps (or map) to the one you want ..i've seen a few engine having a dip or spike in fuel requirements so the smt is better on this part
the smt can also clamp the MAF signal (low and high value) so the ecu won't see if you maxed out the MAF sensor
you could simply use the smt6 with larger injectors on a turbo sytem and cheat the maf values and still retard the timing
or run additional injectors and make the car think it'S stock while not in boost
you could use it to activate nitrous based on rpm,coolant temp,tps position
you could even activate nitrous in a progressive manner
smt6 versus e-manage..
with the smt6 you get the unit itself,the program,the harness wich does,fuel tuner, extra injector,timing,switch control....
with the e-manage you get a basic box with 5 dials on it and the "basic" harness" you need to get the EIC harness, timing harness program,....
on my car i'm doing some timing adjustements without problems, (usufull with cams now)i did get a crank sensor code in the beginning, but it might not be related to the smt, i need ot check a few thing first and if it's because of the way i wired it. .i can wire it another way wich should get the code away
basicly i feel the smt6 is the next best thing to a reprogramemd ECU or standalone
in the worst case.. if you NEED a safc for looks get the rev/speed meter or the AVCR boost controler. .at least they will be usefull,don't get me wrong, the SAFC is a good unit, but you can reach it's limits quite fast even on a basic N/A motor
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could someone get wiring diagrams for SMT6?
If the install is not too much harder than SAFC, I'm seriously going to consider it over SAFC. I have a laptop and it would be a piece of cake to programm this thing!!
If the install is not too much harder than SAFC, I'm seriously going to consider it over SAFC. I have a laptop and it would be a piece of cake to programm this thing!!
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Tim has it on his turbo hyundais forum...
http://www.turbohyundais.com/modules.php?n...69d82bd080ebfec
http://www.turbohyundais.com/modules.php?n...69d82bd080ebfec
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thanks man smile.gif
doesn't look hard at all, same crap, just clamp couple wires and connect the rest!!! wow
I wonder if it comes with everything and I won't have to buy any additional crap.
you are right, Stand alone does it all smile.gif
doesn't look hard at all, same crap, just clamp couple wires and connect the rest!!! wow
I wonder if it comes with everything and I won't have to buy any additional crap.
you are right, Stand alone does it all smile.gif
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so with the smt is there any way to change the settings on the unit itself without a laptop? because the reason i ask is i want to have 2 settings saved. One for daily driving and one for the track. If you could only change the settings on the smt with a laptop then that sucks because i would have to drag my laptop all the way to the track and everywhere else if i wanted to change the settings.
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The SMT6 is OBDII friendly, for it is a piggy back and works with the current ecu. If tuned properly I see no reason why you should get error codes.
From what I understand, the SMT6 can clamp the MAF signal (at its high point) and then dump fuel its self if equipped with a MAP.
From what I understand, the SMT6 can clamp the MAF signal (at its high point) and then dump fuel its self if equipped with a MAP.
