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dvanderk 01-11-2007 10:13 AM

i just got my header leak fixed... and all of a sudden my car isnt running 11.8 rich, its runnin 13.5 at WOT. I had to add +25% fuel on my SAFC2 in order to bring it down to 12.0. I am using airbornes ecu, but I had a major header leak in the past and i was running rich. The car pulls hard, so im assuming the timing was being pulled back because of the previous leak?

Could this be a result of the sealed header leak? I ran a code check and everything is fine, I even replaced my primary 02, spark plug, spark plug wires, and it still runs the same. It just all happened when the header leak was sealed (atleast when I noticed it).

Mad_john 01-11-2007 10:19 AM

ITs his ecu and dtm programing..

whats your fuel pressure raise it to 3.2 bar to 3 bar

Loneshark 01-11-2007 12:10 PM

i really wouldnt say 13.5 is lean, i run 14.0 to 13.9 at WOT.


for a N/A car, 14.0 is great

if it was a turbo engine, i would say no more than 13.3 or 13.4 to be safe !!!


with out the SAFC2 on i run like a 12.

but with about -24 correction evenly thruout the RPM range, its a steady, 13.8 to 14.0

i think you should be ok with that !!
have you dynoed yet with with a 13.5

what i dont get is you are adding 25 ????? i am taking away 24 and run a 14.0

at zero correction im pig rich at 12.0

hamhead 01-11-2007 01:44 PM

^^ He's running more power than you, hence he has to add more fuel obviously. He's also running larger injectors (440cc).

If you had a large leak I can see why it might throw the A/F off.

13.5:1 isn't OMGLeanDeadMotor bad, I'd try to knock it down to 12.5:1.

Did you have to use the SAFC-2 before, or was Airborne's ECU running 11.8:1 on its own?

dvanderk 01-11-2007 01:54 PM

I just threw a check engine light now. I went to advance auto and its not showing a code coming up at all.
I added +25% fuel but it doesnt bring the a/f ratio down by much. The car fights what I say in order to keep it at 13.5. I can tune the low settings therefor I know its not in a limp mode, any ideas? Fordfaster told me its ok if im in boost at 13.5 as long as im not pinging. However me adding this much fuel to bring the a/f ratio down is making my car bog bad.

Loneshark 01-12-2007 06:30 AM

oh so you have the flashed airborne ECU !!!!


so why do you have to add fuel to try and lean it out ??

hamhead 01-12-2007 09:33 AM

^^ Eh? He's adding fuel to richen it? lol

I guess the CEL doesn't show up cause you have that modified ECU. And I guess the Hyundai ECU still screws with the S-AFC, even yours. Reset the battery?

Dunno what to tell ya man. Maybe poke a hole in your header so it runs like before? lmao.gif

Loneshark 01-12-2007 10:49 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dvanderk @ Jan 11 2007, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>...I added +25% fuel but it doesnt bring the a/f ratio down by much. The car fights what I say in order to keep it at 13.5....</div>


dude so what is he trying to say here ???

hamhead 01-12-2007 11:02 AM

He is adding fuel to bring down the ratio from 13.5:1 (lean) to something like 12.5:1 (richer). However, the ECU isn't letting him, as he adds fuel, the ecu leans out the mixture on its own and fights with the S-AFC. Thats the common problem and why we don't recommend the S-AFC.

What are your Long Term and Short Term fuel trims like? I've heard that if those get out of whack with the S-AFC the ECU will mess with the fuel more than it normally would.

dvanderk 01-19-2007 01:18 PM

Now my car is stuck at 14.0 even at WOT. Im completely stumped, I even replaced my 02 sensor. Everytime i richen it, it doesnt do anything, and when i decrease fuel the car stalls. I need idea's please!


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