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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 10:11 AM
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Before I go with the standalone ECU (which if according to plans should be in May) I need a setup that will keep my turbo running reliably on low boost

As you may know the internals will be built up with Con rods and 8.0:1 compression pistons.

I was thinking of Apex-i AFC, Blitz boost controller, and a HKS turbo timer for my car for the time being.

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-Would I need anything in addition to this? Would I be able to leave the computer stock?

-Would getting bigger injectors allow me to run higher boost levels on the stock ECU? If so, what kind?
(I have currently 550cc injectors and I have heard that they will not work with the stock ECU. Also the fuel pump has been upgraded with an RX-7 unit)

-Would I need a gasket? What thickness would I need? Remember, the pistons will already lower the compression of the engine.

-Also running the stock computer, what level of boost would could I run reliably with my setup?
I have heard that 6-7psi is what should be run at. However, I did build up my internals

-The conrods i've seen for sale are the Pauter units sold by you know who.....
However, they are $690 for the set. Are there any other out there for sale that may be cheaper?

I might have more questions to ask and I will post them on here as they come. I know that my questions may seem a little "newbie-ish" but the only way for me to learn is if I ask and research Hope you guys can help me out. I dont want to go through any problems if they can already be prevented from someone elses mistake smile.gif
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 12:48 AM
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S-AFC: Need to know what year your car is.

HKS this and that: You will also need some method of pulling ignition timing. My best advice would be an MSD DIS2 ignition system with the optional boost retard module. You can set this to pull (x) degrees of timing per 1psi of boost -- adjustable from like 0.5 to 3 degrees per pound.

Big injectors: This again depends on the S-AFC, which depends on what year your car is. 440 is probably as big as you can go even on an S-AFC; if you're keeping the stock computer, you're probably stuck at around 350cc or so.

Gasket: No. Stock only.

Safe boost: Boost it until it's lean or starts wanting to detonate on pump gasoline. There is no "general rule" until you strap it to a dyno and tune it for around 11.5:1 air/fuel ratio.

Rods: Crower = $675, incl shipping, for a set of BETA 2.0L rods. Call 'em up, ask for the import guy, tell him you've got a 2.0L Tiburon and you want a set of rods. They already have the specs needed; it takes about 6 weeks to pump out a set. They're rated at 600lbs of torque at 8000RPM, so unless you make more than 914BHP, you'll never break one.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 03:12 AM
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ooo..those crower rods sound good.

Got the contact information?

The year of my car is a 2001.

Also have a BTB (61mm) for my car. I dont have the BIM though. Would it be a waste of time putting it in? Could I run into complications if I install it?
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 03:14 AM
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I'm not keeping the stock computer for long (up to May of 2003).

As for the injectors, what do you recomend?

Thanks Red and anyone else who helped me out. If it wasn't for guy like you, I probably would not have done the turbo. Kudos to you guys
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 03:28 AM
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2001 Tiburon right? You're in one of those wierd years -- do you have a MAF sensor or a MAP sensor? That's the actual determining factor on the S-AFC working.

If you have a MAF, then you can use the S-AFC, which means you can use 440cc/min injectors with some luck and tweaking. That's about the biggest you can go...

Crower? Just look 'em up on the internet and call the 800 number. Doesn't matter who you talk to, so long as it's one of the import guys. The specs are already in the computer; you will not need to send a sample.

As for your big bore equipment, it's fine.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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checked with a friend of mine, it has a MAF sensor. smile.gif

So AFC, here I come smile.gif

I also searched quite a bit for the MSD ignition unit you were talking about Red. The only one I found was the Holley Annhilator ignition. Is this any good?

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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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I have no clue what the Holley part is...

You want the MSD DIS2 unit with the optional ignition timing retard module. It's not too very hard to find.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 09:31 AM
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Summit Racing has it. www.summitracing.com
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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Thank you skierd! Your a lifesaver and a burden smile.gif

You saved me by getting me a link where I bought the part.

You are a burden b/c you just got me into bigger debt

J/k

Thanks alot guys
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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quick question from a newbie,

All all AFC's the same?

My friend is trying to get rid of his from his Supra for an HKS unit.

Would this work in my car?
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