1.8l Beta1 Block With 2.0l Beta2 Cvvt Head?
08-11-2005, 02:20 PM
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ok i want to make a high revving beta motor. i know that i cant do it with the 2.0L beta2 because the strok is to long so that is why i am going with the 1.8L. now i want to use the cvvt head becuse vvt is a good thing for na. i want may beta to rev up to 9000rpm. so can i put the cvvt head on the beta 1 1.8L block???
08-11-2005, 02:26 PM
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so people on hp told you to not do it and no one would give you help so you decided to post here lol
the beta 2 cvvt head is designed different than the beta 1 and 2 setup in fact i dont even think you could bolt it to the beta 1 look at pics of both and you would see what im talkin about
the beta 2 cvvt head is designed different than the beta 1 and 2 setup in fact i dont even think you could bolt it to the beta 1 look at pics of both and you would see what im talkin about
08-11-2005, 02:57 PM
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I think you will use power band at the highest RPM, so why to use CVVT head?
Simply use aftermarket cams with cam gears and tune them for 8000-9000 RPM.
How much hp are you gonna to get?
Simply use aftermarket cams with cam gears and tune them for 8000-9000 RPM.
How much hp are you gonna to get?
08-11-2005, 04:07 PM
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The 2.0 Beta bearly reaches 6900 rpm, although the 1.8 could have more rpm capabilities, it's not going to reach even 8000rpm, maybe it could savely reach 7700 or so.
As Dimitry said, if you want to go for a high rpm engine why would you need CVVT? (Do you know what that's for?)
Also, why do you need your engine to revv that high, do you have a power figure in mind?
The Beta is not a revver, if rpms are your dream, I'd advise you to get another engine, a Hondafor instance, our engines strong point NA is torque (and it's not even a huge torque) and also that they are strong motors that can take boost.
As Dimitry said, if you want to go for a high rpm engine why would you need CVVT? (Do you know what that's for?)
Also, why do you need your engine to revv that high, do you have a power figure in mind?
The Beta is not a revver, if rpms are your dream, I'd advise you to get another engine, a Hondafor instance, our engines strong point NA is torque (and it's not even a huge torque) and also that they are strong motors that can take boost.
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What is the purpose of 9000 RPM? And why 9000 RPM?
To run sucha high RPM you need to do a lot of engine work: balancing, blueprinting, head work, etc, then you need new internals (light weighted pistons, rods, valves), then lightweighted flywheel and many others.
Also you need to disable rev limiter. And you need to be sure that you have enough fuel at 9000 RPM, cause if you run lean - KABOOM.
To run sucha high RPM you need to do a lot of engine work: balancing, blueprinting, head work, etc, then you need new internals (light weighted pistons, rods, valves), then lightweighted flywheel and many others.
Also you need to disable rev limiter. And you need to be sure that you have enough fuel at 9000 RPM, cause if you run lean - KABOOM.
08-11-2005, 08:26 PM
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to answer the one question that was not... the Beta2 head will bolt to the Beta1 block.. Jaws has one on his engine.
And yes. CVVT is NOT Vtec... so do not be expecting a high end kick in the rear when it hits.
And yes. CVVT is NOT Vtec... so do not be expecting a high end kick in the rear when it hits.
08-12-2005, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (Zman @ Aug 11 2005, 05:07 PM)
The 2.0 Beta bearly reaches 6900 rpm, although the 1.8 could have more rpm capabilities, it's not going to reach even 8000rpm, maybe it could savely reach 7700 or so.
As Dimitry said, if you want to go for a high rpm engine why would you need CVVT? (Do you know what that's for?)
Also, why do you need your engine to revv that high, do you have a power figure in mind?
The Beta is not a revver, if rpms are your dream, I'd advise you to get another engine, a Hondafor instance, our engines strong point NA is torque (and it's not even a huge torque) and also that they are strong motors that can take boost.
As Dimitry said, if you want to go for a high rpm engine why would you need CVVT? (Do you know what that's for?)
Also, why do you need your engine to revv that high, do you have a power figure in mind?
The Beta is not a revver, if rpms are your dream, I'd advise you to get another engine, a Hondafor instance, our engines strong point NA is torque (and it's not even a huge torque) and also that they are strong motors that can take boost.
watch bestmotring - battel at 10,000 rpm and you will learn the point of na tuning and why i want vvt. also higer rpm = fasrter cornering
08-12-2005, 03:56 PM
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Why not answer the questions given to you?
How do you plan on controling the CVVT?
What do you plan on it doing for you? It gives, at most, 2 to 3 HP.
How the hell does higher RPM mean faster cornering?
How do you plan on controling the CVVT?
What do you plan on it doing for you? It gives, at most, 2 to 3 HP.
How the hell does higher RPM mean faster cornering?
08-12-2005, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (anthonyfa18 @ Aug 12 2005, 04:32 PM)
watch bestmotring - battel at 10,000 rpm and you will learn the point of na tuning and why i want vvt. also higer rpm = fasrter cornering
Dude, I know some little things about NA tuning, and though I am no expert, I know some basic internal dynamics and why they limit the Beta capacity to revv higher.
I think you need to get a good book about engine internals and read about bore vs stroke, cylinder wall loads, etc, etc and you will understand what we are talking about here nana.gif . Also, to make a Beta engine revv to 9000 rpm is going to cost you like putting together two Honda B16 engines (I am not a big fan of them, but if you want revs and revs alone, they are a better path than the Beta).
Go to Hyundaiaftermarket and do some searches there, it really will help you with most of your questions.
Also, CVVT is more like a iVtec which is variable valve timing oriented to help with torque at low-mid rpms, as opossite to the Vtec technology, which aims to change cam profile at high rpms to achieve more power; so Hyundai's CVVT is not going to help you at all with that because it doesn't change cam profile nor timing in a noticeable way.
08-12-2005, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (REDZMAN @ Aug 12 2005, 09:56 PM)
How the hell does higher RPM mean faster cornering?
Don't question the rice.
I pity da fool who question's da rice.
I'm gonna have a CVVT/bored/stroked/ported/polished/lsd/VTEC/ballanced/NOS/MIVEC/Carbon Fibre/Titainum shiznit. (all runnin' on the stock ecu, naturally)
I'm warnin' ya. DON'T question da rice.