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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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I found these on ebay. Someone buy me one!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KAAZ-DBM205...sspagenameZWDVW
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Not bad. Please keep in mind guys that these diffs do require a special fluid to be added and changed as they are the clutch type.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Any idea on what horse power rating it might have?

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And how do they stand up to the quafie in quality? Would it just be better to buy a quafie?

Sorry for all the questions, it's just that I've never heard of the brand.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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kaazz is pretty pimp i think they are about equal to quaife. maybe someone else can chime in with their opinion on this one.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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As I said they require a special fluid to be added and changed. The Quaife is put in and basically left alone. Quaife would be a better buy for that reason. The quaife is a gear type differential that doesnt need any special fluid.

I dont think there is really a horsepower rating. If there is its more than anyone here has right now probably.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Hey, cool find!

As eric said, they require a special fluid to be used and changed something like every 15k miles.

Also remember they can be noisy due to the metal clutches slipping on each other in the corners, kind of like a shuffling noise.

I am not intrested, I would rather just spend the additional $250 on a quaife and not have to worry about fluid changes, spring changes for the proper effect (springs are used to hold a certain amount of pressure on the clutch plates, stiffer springs means more of a posi or locker diff, softer means more of an open diff effect.

Not to mention quaife's have a lifetime warranty no matter what mods you have and how much horsepower you are making, that says something about quaife quality and durability.

Here is the cheapest place I found to purchase the quaife for our cars:

http://www.manufacturersdepot.com/ProductD...0061-1180622061

Remember to purchase new diff bearings and output seals from the dealer or:

www.rockauto.com.

You will also need a mitsubishi eclipse speedo gear that needs to be pressed onto the diff as well, and possibly a shim kit from your local hyundai dealer.

If someone purchases a kaaz, please post up a thread that describes your experience with it.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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That is a GREAT site for that Quaife. The Kaaz would work good still. But wouldnt be the best way to go.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Yes I agree, the warranty on the Quaife is unbeatable. However, I thought that since it is a clutch type it'd be better for an all around LSD.

To my understanding the mechanical/gear type LSDs don't allow one tire to spin faster than the other at all, but the car needs that in the corners. Say you are taking a left hand corner, the right tire needs to travel at a slightly greater speed than the left. The clutch type would allow this to happen to a degree. This would allow it to provide an increase in traction(over stock), but keep the streetability at a maximum.

And before anyone says it, I know the point of an LSD is to lock the wheels together thus giving maximum traction. That works all good and well in a straight line, but I'm not interested in going in just a straight line.

Just my two cents.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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^^^ Well, you would ASSUME that is how the mechanical type works splinter, but in fact it is just the opposite.

Heck, if you wanted a full locked differential, just weld the spider gears in place and there you go, perfect for dragstrip use only (for the reasons you stated above). LSD means LIMITED slip differential, meaning it allows both wheels to spin at different speeds, but resists that activity during accel/deceleration. You won't have an issue with different wheel speeds needed when going around corners with any LSD (or at least you shouldn't).

But ACTUALLY, the quaife is what is called an ATB (Automatic Torque Biasing) differential. This means that in corners, the quaife actually transfers MORE power to the outside wheel than the inside, increasing traction substantially in comparison to an open diff, where all the power would go to the wheel with the least resistance (the inside wheel) and you would spin. With the quaife, getting on the throttle at the apex would PULL you through the corner instead of spinning which would ultimately result in understeer. You can go to quaife's website and read about this in more detail.

So, that is just ANOTHER reason why the quaife is a better diff.

However, only clutch types offer true posi traction even with only one tire getting traction, for example, one tire is on ice and one is on dry pavement. With a clutch type, you will still be able to accelerate no problem, because the clutches would generate friction and make sure the wheel with traction turned. I am not quite sure how the quaife would handle this particular situation, but I would guess it would drive quite well; but not as good as the kaaz. Kind of an off the wall scenario, but that is really the only one I could think of where the clutch type would be better than a quaife atb.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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After rereading my previous post I realized that it sounded, well, rude. My apologies for that. I was merely curious as to why you were so eager to spend the extra $250 on something that, to me, wouldn't work as well. I appreciate you clearing that up.
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