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Changing brake pads for the track

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Old May 2, 2013 | 12:50 PM
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Does anyone have a dedicated set of brake pads they use solely for track days? I have my Hawk street pads which are fine but I have been wondering about getting a set of EBC Yellows and only using them for the track where the brakes will be used way heavier than regular street cruising.
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Old May 3, 2013 | 12:08 AM
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Not a bad idea, I wouldn't bother replacing them until you find the stock pads are actually failing you. It must be a pretty high speed circuit...
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Old May 3, 2013 | 08:41 AM
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option 1:swap to performance pads, like ebc green or red and retain stock brake hardware, but i heard red stuff recommends new rotors or it will squeal on some cars.



option 2:Stainless steel brake lines..more firm feel and less mushiness from the brake pedal.



option 3:bigger rotor & caliper swap..using oe components from other hyundai's may be a alternative to pricey BBBK's..but it also add's a considerable increase in weight and noticeably slower acceleration since the axles have to turn a heavier rotor



also keep in mind that front tire lockup will be more evident for cars with strong modified brakes..especially in the wet..so dont use cheap gripless tire's especially with a poor UTQG rating.."traction AA" is recommended.
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Old May 3, 2013 | 09:17 AM
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Option 4: do nothing

cost: free



I've tracked my X3 a few times, and had zero problems with brake fade. Until firewalling the brake pedal doesn't lock up all fours, you're fine. Save the cash money for other things.
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Old May 3, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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steel..what pads YOU riding on?
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Old May 4, 2013 | 01:08 AM
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Whatever pleb $30 brake pads that came with the car, they actually work fine. You'd have to be doing lots of laps of a high speed circuit to actually smoke the brakes on an accent.
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Old May 6, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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My LC2 boiled the friction material and delaminated the brake pads with performance (non-race) pads at a lapping day on a short course.



In the wet on a long course I burned through a new set of pads (non-performance) down to metal on metal in 4 laps...in the wet.



My solution is a Wilwood BBK with the quick swap Dynalite calipers. Pull a pin, remove street pads, replace with track pads, replace pin.
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Old May 6, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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What the hell man?? Your driving style isn't that far different from mine, how is there such a difference in results?







I guess the track I use is only approximately one mile long. If you have long straights and lots of laps then I guess you could cook pads.
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Old May 7, 2013 | 12:54 AM
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Pad damage:









Delaminated friction material





I brake very late and very hard.



This damage was after seven 15 minute sessions on this track:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsZf2xHzYZY&list=UU7N0YZTBdJBeEG9gnr-7RxQ[/media]

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Old May 8, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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hey floyd, u ever thought of routing some duct hose to the calipers to cool them down?



with brakes broiled to a crisp charr, i'd be compelled to install a aftermarket tpms kit on the wheels to keep the air pressure in the tires in check..heat from brakes to wheel+ heatsink effect onto the tires..overinflated compromised tire contact patch.
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