majik

My idea was sparked with RED'z new home being built.

HOW can we do this? Have ethernet running to various outlets in his home (maybe 4?)

I'm sure with a home under construction, with the wall exposed, it'll be easy for Commicast to come out and run ethernet wherever he wants. How would he hook it up to a modem though?

My idea.... Have one central point (i.e., office) where the cable modem connects to the cable outlet, and then hits a router. One of the "outputs" from the router would plug into the wall to send the Ethernet throughout the house.
-- Would this plug need to have 4 input jacks, and each jack having a different cable going to a each room?
-- Could he have just one input into the wall that splits to 4 rooms?

My idea: http://www.keenzo.com/showproduct.asp?M=3C...7030&ref=GB
Just plug one output from the router into each of these plugs, then have the ethernet run from this outlet to the rest of the house.

REDZMAN

Not a bad idea, but that's $3200 for that setup, and it comes with like 20 sets of stuff.

If I can, I don't mind running ethernet myself, but the problem I have is...

1. Blown in insulation.

2. Gotta try to do it after the electrical inspection and before drywall.

I want to do my surround sound stuff too.

javageek

All you need is a 20 port smart-switch, a 20 port patch panel, a 19" wall mount rack to put the switch and patch panel in and your cable modem. Find a central closet that you would not mind this stuff being in, or the garage. Have the cable company run cable to that location. Have a company or individual run the CAT-6 from that location to each room. You would then wire the cables into the patch panel, then run patch cables from the panel to the switch. Plug your cable modem into the input port on the switch and you are good to go. I could do all this for you if I had the time to get up there. What you could do is see if the electrician could run all the cable and then I could wire it all up for you in a weekend after the house is built. You can get a 1000' roll of Cat-6 for $90 or so. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=...itle#ps-sellers

If the electrician runs the cable make sure he does not cross over any fluorescent lights also make sure what you buy "Plenum Cable" which is certified for use in ceilings and walls or else you will not pass your inspection.

majik

I wasn't really thinking of buying that setup... more just using a similar outlet and running the wire yourself. You could do what Java suggested, that just seems a little above a "basic" level of knowledge.

javageek

From what I remember most people charge about $50-75 per drop so if you were to have a company come in and do it the price could be higher than you would like. I had a friend in Florida who was having a house built and he asked the electrician to run all the cables and then gave him a side tip.

redturbulance

Speaking from an electricians point of view its really not that hard just go get a box of cat6 and a lowvoltage panel from home depot and start cutting holes for the low voltage panel and then where you want your wires in each room and run the wire from each room to that panel and then pull a main line to the outside of the house where the cable hookup for internet is and your done just put your modem in the lowvoltage panel which has a spot for a plug as well and there you go a house with ethernet....however....a electrician could do this for you but would charge you $100 an hour minimum and parts and it would probably take two guys to do it one in the attic or crawl to drill the holes to phish wire down or up whatever it may be but it really isn't that hard to do it yourself if you are a little handy.

JD

Mr. Muffin

just about every switch/router producer has products to use ur existing wiring... (only up to about 200mb per second theoretical max tho)
u plug an adapter into ur 3 prong outlet, and it adapts it to ethernet...

http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/PowerLine

supercow

^^the power line stuff is an ok option.

Thats a weird faceplate majik, the only downside I see to that is no expendibility and I don't like keeping the router and modem out in plain sight. Mine is in a cabinet in the basement along with my server.

I run about 15,000 ft. of Cat6 a year for the local hospital here. The way to do it is to get something like this:

1. patch panel - http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-N050-012-...t/dp/B000067SC6
2. gigabit switch - http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-EG008W-Gigab...9704&sr=1-3

Put all that in a closet somewhere, your router/modem will go at this same location on a small shelf. The ideal place for this is the same location the phones come into the house. Many newer homes have a board already mount with a punch down block for the phone. Often the Cable comes in at this same spot. That way you can either split it off immediatly for cable or you can put in ONE filter for the whole home rather than one on every phone if your using DSL.

So you run all your lines around the house back to this one location. you can have a bunch extra your not going to use right now since you punch them all down on the patch panel. Then you just jumper the one's your using to the switch, which is jumpered to the router, which is connected to the modem. If your only going to be using 4 of them right now you can probably get by without the switch for right now and just use the routers built in switch. Linksys's new line of gigabit wireless routers are very nice and from what I've seen very reliable.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

edit: btw I don't know what java's smoking! Plenum cat6 is EXPENSIVE, I get mine at $250 a box when I order it in bulk that price he gave of $90 is about right for non-plenum, chances are you can get by with non-plenum but I have to use plenum at the hospital. Check with whoever certifies that stuff to make sure but 99% of home wiring is non-plenum. All that plenum wire means is that it's non-toxic when it burns, if the smoke from the wire could spread then you have to use plenum. Since most homes don't have drop ceilings like a business does this is typically a non-issue.
http://www.phonicear.com/learnplenum.asp

btw, one last thing, have a local company do it. The phone/cable people are typically paid by the site, so they aren't concern about quality, just quantity of work completed.

DTN

You could always take the easy way, use toolless wall jacks, run all cables to a central location, like a closet, and plug in your router there. This will be the center of your wireless network as well. From there, you can run the internet port of your router through to another toolless jack to wherever your cable outlet is located and plug your modem in there.

This will also allow you to easily upgrade your router, or change it if it goes bad, as well as upgrade your internet connection.

If you get a linksys as your central point, you can upgrade the software and have super-control over every port... IE.. Block porn.com to the kids room so that they can't surf teh pron.. block RDTiburon.com in the bedroom so you actually sleep at night.. so on and so forth.

You can actually log every connection made and log onto your router and view by individual port.

The router is the center of the network anyways, may as well use it as such.

REDZMAN

A lot of that is above my head man. I'm not sure at all what I should do, but now you guys have me nervous of even thinking of doing it on my own. I'll see if I can get in touch with the builders to find out who the electrician is.



Got any links you can show a brother that I might understand?

There is an attic of sorts, but I don't know how easy it would be to do any of that because of the insulation. This house is very green, with full solar power, so there's a LOT of wiring going on.

Gives me some ideas though...



Funny, every time I've posted the powerline adapters here I get hounded for them being shit, and after doing some research on them the last time I posted, they aren't great.