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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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yes - upon arrest, even if not convicted



http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9520O820130603



(Reuters) - In a major victory for law enforcement agencies, the Supreme Court on Monday ruled that police can take a DNA sample from someone who has been arrested and charged but not convicted of a crime.

By a 5-4 vote the court reversed a decision last April by Maryland's highest court that overturned the 2010 conviction and life sentence of Alonzo Jay King for a rape committed seven years earlier.



The court, in an opinion written by Justice Anthony Kennedy, handed a victory to the state of Maryland by saying taking of DNA samples was similar to taking fingerprints.



DNA samples can be taken if police have probable cause to detain a suspect facing charges relating to a serious offense, Kennedy said.

Taking a sample using a swab of the cheek is "like fingerprinting and photographing, a legitimate police booking procedure," Kennedy said.

King's right under the U.S. Constitutional Fourth Amendment to be free from unreasonable search and seizure had therefore not been violated, he added.



Like fingerprints, DNA is used for identification, and is not by itself evidence of a crime, Kennedy said. There is a legitimate government interest in knowing the identity of the person arrested, he added.



Justice Antonin Scalia, a conservative, joined three liberal justices in dissenting from the decision.

The Maryland court had concluded that King's Fourth Amendment rights were violated when he was required to provide his DNA upon being arrested.



CHECKS WITH DNA DATABASES

Under Maryland law, samples can be taken from anyone arrested for a serious offense without police needing to get a warrant. Police can then submit those samples to a national database to see if the suspect is linked with any other crimes.

Monday's ruling will leave that law and others like it around the nation intact.



The case focused purely on samples taken after a suspect is arrested and charged with a crime, but not convicted of it.

Samples taken from convicted felons are routinely submitted to the national database and that practice was not an issue in the case.

Every other state in the country, plus the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, signed on to a brief in support of Maryland's position.



The case is Maryland v. King, U.S. Supreme Court, No. 207.


I wonder how 'serious offense' is being defined...
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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So, the takeaway needs to be: Stop getting arrested.



It's a simple solution.
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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10% of the population will ever be arrested. If you are not a drunk, or a young black male in an urban area, you probably don't have to worry about it. This case was a rapist caught because of the "serious offense and we sample your DNA" law in his state, and he turned up a rapist in addition to whatever else he did. The result is that he's in jail for rape and SCOTUS is leaving him there. So good came out of it. BUT.



That said, this is a real pisser. If there is a requirement to delete the record when you are not convicted, and they don't allocate funds for destroying records, guess who still has your record? Oh wait, don't tell me - the innocent have nothing to fear!
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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It seems like unreasonable search to me.
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Some of us still don't like fingerprinting. That would be, We Who Have Lost The Debate for the time being.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 02:45 PM
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DNA is just as likely to prove you innocent as guilty.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 01:32 PM
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And, if I'm charged with a crime I'm fine with it. You could be arrested because you have a black hat on in a general area and you match the description of someone they're looking for.
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 07:06 AM
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What are you going to do about facial recognition and al the cameras around?



http://www.face-rec.org/





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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 02:13 PM
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You will be assimilated that's what. Just don't be red-balled.
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 03:37 AM
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Brb, moving to siberia
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